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Battery Removal Secret?

The manual only says to disconnect the battery band and remove the battery from the battery case. SURE! I can get it half way out and then the rear brake master cylinder gets in the way. Also, it seems like it's pulling against something in the battery case. Any secrets to getting the dang thing out of the case?

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Have you disconnected the terminals? It should just kind of slide out after that, pulling it a little toward you and back.

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I have to pull it out at a slight angle to clear everything. I actually never paid attention to what it was hitting but there is nothing holding the battery in the tray (might have a plastic tie making things a little harder)

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take the side cover off.............j/k not the best batt install set up I have seen.

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Have you disconnected the terminals? It should just kind of slide out after that, pulling it a little toward you and back.
Not yet. The manual says to do it after removing. The terminals are inboard and close to stuff so I don't think I can get the positive one off.

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Just disconnect the terminals - it slides right out - Done

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Not yet. The manual says to do it after removing. The terminals are inboard and close to stuff so I don't think I can get the positive one off.
You can just pull it part of the way out and disconnect it.

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Just disconnect the terminals - it slides right out - Done
Will do. Gotta find a light now.

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disconnect the terminals? I can't disconnect mine unless the battery is almost out of the tray and by that time the battery is basically already out

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If you have to take a leak, stands to reason you unzip first. Get the picture? Come on people, removing a battery is not rocket science.

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you need to at least disconnect the neg. terminal while the battery is still 3/4 in the box and then the positive after its out. Also it is probably hanging up on the positive terminal cover.

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If you have to take a leak, stands to reason you unzip first.
so thats what I have been doing wrong all these years & I agree it is not rocket science

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you need to at least disconnect the neg. terminal while the battery is still 3/4 in the box and then the positive after its out. Also it is probably hanging up on the positive terminal cover.
+1 on removing negative first, you should do that everytime you remove ANY vehicle battery!


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You might also check that your battery wasn't installed backwards like mine was shown in this picture from "Helpful topics for the 919 owner". I installed a 12 volt outlet and posted a how-to. Someone pointed out their battery was opposite of mine. After looking at the battery box mine has a rise where the terminals slide in, so I turned it around after posting this pic.


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Jim,

Both my positive and negative terminals are installed where they stick out on the long side of the battery. It slides in and out just fine. Tried with the cabling sticking out the end like you have, and the positive seemed too short.

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I don't know what you mean by "long side of the battery." It worked okay as posted in the pic, but when I flipped the battery around 180, which put the terminals on the side closest to the bike, it worked much better. There's more clearance in my battery box up top for the terminals when installed that way.


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Both my positive and negative terminals are installed where they stick out on the long side of the battery. It slides in and out just fine. Tried with the cabling sticking out the end like you have, and the positive seemed too short.

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+1 on removing negative first, you should do that everytime you remove ANY vehicle battery!
That's providing the vehicle is negative ground. Maybe we should say always remove the ground cable first. Many of the old British cars were positive ground.

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Lucas Electrics. Leaving millions stranded.

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Lucas jokes rule! "It worked fine until I accidently let all the smoke out."

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The Lucas Electric motto: "Get home before dark."

Lucas denies having invented darkness. But they still claim "sudden, unexpected darkness."

Lucas--inventor of the first intermittent wiper.

Lucas--inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.

The three-position Lucas switch--DIM, FLICKER and OFF. The other three switch settings--SMOKE, SMOLDER and IGNITE.

The original anti-theft devices--Lucas Electric products.

"I've had a Lucas pacemaker for years and have never experienced any prob...

If Lucas made guns, wars would not start either.

Did you hear about the Lucas powered torpedo? It sank.

It's not true that Lucas, in 1947, tried to get Parliament to repeal Ohm's Law. They withdrew their efforts when they met too much resistance.

Did you hear the one about the guy that peeked into a Land Rover and asked the owner "How can you tell one switch from another at night, since they all look the same?" "He replied, it doesn't matter which one you use, nothing happens!"

Back in the '70s Lucas decided to diversify its product line and began manufacturing vacuum cleaners. It was the only product they offered which didn't suck.

Quality Assurance phoned and advised the Engineering guy that they had trouble with his design shorting out. So he made the wires longer.

Why do the English drink warm beer? Lucas makes the refrigerators.

Alexander Graham Bell invented the Telephone.
Thomas Edison invented the Light Bulb.
Joseph Lucas invented the Short Circuit.

Recommended procedure before taking on a repair of Lucas equipment: check the position of the stars, kill a chicken and walk three times sunwise around your car chanting: "Oh mighty Prince of Darkness protect your unworthy servant."

Lucas systems actually uses AC current; it just has a random frequency."

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Went thru college with a guy who had Lucas Electrics in his car. I had to go rescue him more than once. That car used to do some weird stuff.

The best one was when it became possessed and decided to leave the taillights on when the driver door was open and turn them off when it was closed. He got pulled over one night for no taillights and when he got out the lights came on. Cop told him to drive home with his door open.

Nice car. POS electrics.

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The Lucas Electric motto: "Get home before dark."

Lucas denies having invented darkness. But they still claim "sudden, unexpected darkness."

Lucas--inventor of the first intermittent wiper.

Lucas--inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.

The three-position Lucas switch--DIM, FLICKER and OFF. The other three switch settings--SMOKE, SMOLDER and IGNITE.

The original anti-theft devices--Lucas Electric products.

"I've had a Lucas pacemaker for years and have never experienced any prob...

If Lucas made guns, wars would not start either.

Did you hear about the Lucas powered torpedo? It sank.

It's not true that Lucas, in 1947, tried to get Parliament to repeal Ohm's Law. They withdrew their efforts when they met too much resistance.

Did you hear the one about the guy that peeked into a Land Rover and asked the owner "How can you tell one switch from another at night, since they all look the same?" "He replied, it doesn't matter which one you use, nothing happens!"

Back in the '70s Lucas decided to diversify its product line and began manufacturing vacuum cleaners. It was the only product they offered which didn't suck.

Quality Assurance phoned and advised the Engineering guy that they had trouble with his design shorting out. So he made the wires longer.

Why do the English drink warm beer? Lucas makes the refrigerators.

Alexander Graham Bell invented the Telephone.
Thomas Edison invented the Light Bulb.
Joseph Lucas invented the Short Circuit.

Recommended procedure before taking on a repair of Lucas equipment: check the position of the stars, kill a chicken and walk three times sunwise around your car chanting: "Oh mighty Prince of Darkness protect your unworthy servant."

Lucas systems actually uses AC current; it just has a random frequency.
My cat was looking at me funny as I was laughing my ass off while reading this! Thanks.

Actually, I can't complain about Lucas electrics -- I had a 1971 BSA "Gold Star" (if anyone out there remembers when BSA punched out the 441 to 500 ccs, dubbed it a Gold Star, and elicited a massive collective howl from "real" Gold Star enthuisasts) on which the positive battery terminal fell off. I never noticed it despite the battery coil ignition. The generator would produce enough juice to run the ignition at kickstart RPMs, it would fire up from stone cold in a maximum of two kicks, and the zener diode regulator worked well enough to protect the lights. At least I think it did considering the generous amount of vibration from the motor killed filaments long before excessive system voltage could. One special order headlight bulb lasted less than 10 minutes, and Lucas had no hand in it's manufacture.

So there.

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I sure like the way those old singles look. Kinda getting me to want to go on down to our local Royal Enfield dealer for one of them chromed gas tank machines. NO LUCAS products being used on R.E. these days! One thing about it, They, Royal Enfield, still styles their engines to be looked at and admired. The new C5's have beautiful styling, engineered for the eye's enjoyment, to be admired while throwing back a cold Guiness Extra Stout or two.
No need to style something that's gonna be all covered up like on some of these more modern machines.


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I sure like the way those old singles look. Kinda getting me to want to go on down to our local Royal Enfield dealer for one of them chromed gas tank machines. NO LUCAS products being used on R.E. these days! One thing about it, They, Royal Enfield, still styles their engines to be looked at and admired. The new C5's have beautiful styling, engineered for the eye's enjoyment, to be admired while throwing back a cold Guiness Extra Stout or two.
No need to style something that's gonna be all covered up like on some of these more modern machines.
So how do you get a battery out of a Royal Enfield? Oh, wait! That would be hijacking my own thread!

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thanks for the laugh,
terminals must be on the inside side.
positive terminal is not visible
negative terminal is, remove it first
then pull the battery out part way
remove positive terminal
install in reverse order.

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This thread should be stickied - Proved really useful when installing my alarm today

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Support, pull the battery strait out as far as it will go with the terminals still connected( MAKE SURE THEY ARE COVERED!) Then i have found you have to tilt the thing towards the sky a bit then swing it out. Just futz with the angles, perhaps move the cables a bit.

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What did you go with?

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What did you go with?
Scorpio SR-1800 ordered directly from Scorpio.
I also bought the 919 specific wiring harness which literally made the installation plug and play

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