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post #1 of 41 Old 02-13-2012, 07:42 PM Thread Starter
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Bar-end Mirrors - your thoughts...

So I have a dilemma. I currently have Rizoma mirrors that I love, however, I swapped out my Master Cylinder a while back for a GSXR one and RC51 front calipers.

Due to the m/c not having it's own mirror mount, I bought an el-cheapo off of Amazon.

Pics of my current setup below. As you can see, this pulls the mirror 'in' about 2" and it's making it hard to see around my shoulder.

I'm tempted to swap to bar end mirrors, but for those that have them, how do you like them? is there any buzzing in the mirrors that make it hard to see?
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BTW, I really like Rizoma stuff, and yes, it's pricey. IF I had to go bar-end, these are at the top of the list:




Oh, and if I go this route, PVster has dibs on my current mirrors.

Also, those are shorty levers, so no, I can't swap places on the bar with my m/c, already tried that. And the mirror is currently extended as far as it will go; it was perfect before, just a little short now.

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I'm not sure what kind came on mine.
They're round, and if they weren't on there, I would be able to bring my bike into the house on cold nights.

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Like the standard bar-ends more than I thought I would... But I really don't have to use them much as I like to get a good head look or just make sure I'm way in front of someone. Which with a 9er is easy!

Edit: g00g... Ya might also be trying to just do too much! Get the bar-ends to give you some space!

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I'm not sure what kind came on mine.
They're round, and if they weren't on there, I would be able to bring my bike into the house on cold nights.

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eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices
Well, in that case, you could get these: Black Driven D-Axis Universal Bar End Mirrors & Adapters Kit Hon Suz Kaw Yam Duc | eBay

They fold ;-). But they are pricey...


EDIT: These are not quite as expensive: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ducati-Adjus...#ht_500wt_1180

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Dear me that's costly!

I'm not married to the bar end mirrors. I think I'd like ones with turn signals in them better, then I can get rid of the ones below the headlight.

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I love my bar end mirrors I dont have to look at my shoulders anymore and I never really liked the mirrors that came stock on bikes

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hey googl3, i have a set of el cheapo ebay bar end mirrors that i currently use. i curently use the stock bars with stock bar end weights and have bar end weights machined so the cheapo ebay mirrors will clamp onto them. because of the set-up i experience zero vibes on my mirrors unless i'm going over 100mph (but then it doesnt matter i dont think). hopefully you remember my set-up!

if i recall correctly ur not using the stock bars which is too bad because i'd offer to trade you straight across along with some cash on my end if needed. you could try to fab up something yourself. if you do let me know and i'll post some close ups of my set-up.

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hey googl3, i have a set of el cheapo ebay bar end mirrors that i currently use. i curently use the stock bars with stock bar end weights and have bar end weights machined so the cheapo ebay mirrors will clamp onto them. because of the set-up i experience zero vibes on my mirrors unless i'm going over 100mph (but then it doesnt matter i dont think). hopefully you remember my set-up!

if i recall correctly ur not using the stock bars which is too bad because i'd offer to trade you straight across along with some cash on my end if needed. you could try to fab up something yourself. if you do let me know and i'll post some close ups of my set-up.
Not stock bars, they are Rizomas (29mm center diameter) but I believe they are the same end-diameter as the stock bars. 7/8ths? or 22mm?. Stock bar ends would theoretically fit.

However, my grips I put at the end of the bars (drilled holes for control pods). Do your mirrors clamp onto the end of the bar or do they somehow attach to the bar end?

That would be the kicker, whether or not I would have to move my controls in a 1/4" or so to get those to clamp. These Rizoma replacements fit inside the bars.

Also, I tend to hold wide on the grips, so anything clamped right at the end of the grip I tend to run into and it bugs me, at least that was my impression of the last bike I rode that had mirrors clamped right at the butt of the grip.

I can't remember what your setup was, pics would probably help if I'm off with my assumption above.

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here's my set-up. hopefully the pictures are self explanatory. the bar ends have a lip that is tucked inside the grips and screwed into the bar weights like standard bar end weights. there's a notch in the center of the bar end weight that is machined down to allow for the mirror to clamp onto the weight rather than the spacer that is used for the screw to go through and attach to the bar in the original set-up. very simple, very functional, and actually looks decent.

i ride the same way as you, i like to have my hands as wide as possible and these dont get in the way, they work well. plus they're cheapo ebay mirrors so if one breaks, just take it off and slap another one on. the bar end weight itself remains intact since it's 1 solid piece of billet.
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Ah, ok. That ^ makes sense. Those are farther away than the ones I rode with.

I'm gonna play with my setup tomorrow or Wed. (if I can find the time) see if I have overlooked some way to just extend the mirror some more.

I guess I could always go this route:

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yeah that would work google.... but then you'd have to do both sides to keep em even looking.

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I was looking at those risers awhile back and someone put on a mirror thread that those cause vibrations.

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Something that might be a consideration with the bar-ends, If you happen to ride in areas with winding roads, and fast/heavy traffic.

Between trying to keep your head up to look thru the corners, and then look 'down' to check the car(s) beside/behind you ... bad things can happen.

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I was looking at those risers awhile back and someone put on a mirror thread that those cause vibrations.
Interesting.

So do we think that the more joints there are the structure the more prone to vibration?


I would think it would be the opposite, that the more direct in contact with the vibration source, the more would be transferred.

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Something that might be a consideration with the bar-ends, If you happen to ride in areas with winding roads, and fast/heavy traffic.

Between trying to keep your head up to look thru the corners, and then look 'down' to check the car(s) beside/behind you ... bad things can happen.
My mirrors right now are pretty low just a few inches above my hands. I would think that it would be more of an outward glance than a downward glance.

Right now, I have to shift my entire body to the left to be able to check my right side in the mirror (I still do head check).

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3 things.

1. I dont like bar ends... i would end up wacking them on something as i squeeze through.

2. FUCK THOSE PRICES... 200+ for mirrors MY GOD... thats like 2100miles of riding at 3.80 a gallon and 40mpg.... or almost a full set of tires!

3. READ 2!

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3 things.

1. I dont like bar ends... i would end up wacking them on something as i squeeze through.

2. FUCK THOSE PRICES... 200+ for mirrors MY GOD... thats like 2100miles of riding at 3.80 a gallon and 40mpg.... or almost a full set of tires!

3. READ 2!
1. No lane splitting where I'm at, so no need.

2/3. Yeah, but you're still in school and livin' it up. When your discretionary income goes up a bit (well, hopefully a lot when you're done) you can throw a little bit of taste in with your spending.

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Not sure what the science is... but someone here has tried it. There's a possibility that it could've been the mirror they're using, but from what I remember and understood, with the extension arm it caused more vibrations. Let me see if I can find it

*edit: N/M, I found it here but now that I look at the mirrors he had them on, I also read a review elsewhere that claimed those mirrors being prone to vibrations.

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I'm running round bar ends and they are very good. BUT due to the small size they should have slightly convex glass to increase the viewing area. The problem with this is that everything looks a lot further away than it actually is in the mirror. You adapt, but definitely need a look over the shoulder if pulling out etc.

Now you don't need to change your mirrors as somewhere on eBay I have seen mirror extenders!

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Since you are currently running all Rizoma items, (bars, grips, levers) then I would stick with those. I looked at those and I really like the Square Qs

I Have Rentahl bars, CRG LS, foldable. I didn't cut my bars, so I was able to clamp to the bar. then I installed Rizoma bar ends. CRG has an internal adaptor if you wanted to go that route. But again, since you are ALL Rizoma I'd stick with those.

As far as vision, LOVE the bar ends. I thought I wouldn't but I swear I see better with the bar end mirrors. Little to no vibration.
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I've got the CRG Arrows on mine. I picked up some CRG mounts online and I can say they're much easier to see than on the old stockers. There's no vibrations (even though I pulled out the bar-end weights to install the mounts). They are lower, obviously, but it doesn't take me as long to sight in and go. I've been using them for about 4 months and they are pretty fantastic.

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Since switching to bar-end mirrors early in my relationship with my 9er, i must say that I love em. I just have the ebay cheapies, but i dont have to look at my elbows & shoulders and have a mucg better view behind me, with a much reduced blind spot. I dont have any vibration issues at all, and I dont think I ever want to go back to standard mirrors again.

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It should be noted that these Rizoma Q's have a curved mirror as well, so that should help with the view. My current ones are flat and I would like a slightly wider view angle.

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I'm not sure what kind came on mine.
They're round, and if they weren't on there, I would be able to bring my bike into the house on cold nights.

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I have these...LOVE them, but didn't put the view much further out than the stockers, till I got longer bars.

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i enjoy mine, they are a bit further for the eyes to travel, that took some getting used to. very cool and i dont see em much around my area, so pretty unique. i typically look over my shoulder a lot anyway. i got my off ebay for around $70, pretty cool and the fold-in, have held up well.

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My mirrors right now are pretty low just a few inches above my hands. I would think that it would be more of an outward glance than a downward glance.

Right now, I have to shift my entire body to the left to be able to check my right side in the mirror (I still do head check).
I bought and installed some CRG Lane-Splitters. They're great, and flip back when "splitting lanes". I put them on about 2000 ago and am still adjusting to the angle, location etc. But damn, they look good!

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I bet you typed in Very Nice Bar End Mirrors to find it huh?

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I like them it gives the bike more of the cafe look it deserves.

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Oh, and of course I sniped them. Placed bid in the last 7 seconds.

I can only imagine panic on the other end when they try and get a bid in in under 4 seconds and FAIL.

MUAHAHAHAHAAA!

If you guys don't know how to ebay shop, it will bite you. NEVER bid on an item until the VERY END and only bid the maximum you'd be willing to pay. If you win it, you win it, if not, wait for another because it wasn't worth it.


If you bid before that, you're only egging your enemy on, making the price of the very item you want GO UP.

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I bet you typed in Very Nice Bar End Mirrors to find it huh?
I think I typed something like 'g00gl3it troll strikes again' or something.

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I bet you typed in Very Nice Bar End Mirrors to find it huh?
more like "High dollar bar end mirrors that blow me"


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cool google, nice buy. saying it right now, if you dont like em i call first dibs!

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bar ends do look cool as hell..but i enjoy cranking at highway speeds and having to move my eyes and head very little to see whats in the next lane...dont have to turn my head at all

dont need a bike to ride the fast lane
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Not sure what the science is... but someone here has tried it. There's a possibility that it could've been the mirror they're using, but from what I remember and understood, with the extension arm it caused more vibrations. Let me see if I can find it

*edit: N/M, I found it here but now that I look at the mirrors he had them on, I also read a review elsewhere that claimed those mirrors being prone to vibrations.
I went the extension route, and am very happy with the outcome. No enhanced vibrations that I can detect, and no more views of the shoulder sections of my jackets.

I wouldn't consider bar-ends because of the limitations around moving in [stationary] traffic. I don't have any profound objections to the stock mirrors - they're doing their job adequately, now that they're up in the air, a bit more.

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Just posting an update, finally got to go on a ride with these babies installed.

LOVE THEM. No vibration, view is great, they are easy to adjust yet hold their position in the wind.

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Yeah, but does your ass still hurt from paying $135 for mirrors?!! :-D

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