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post #1 of 20 Old 12-27-2009, 10:41 AM Thread Starter
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Anyone try a lift kit on a 9er?

wondering if anybody has tried a rear end lift kit on their hornet, and if they liked the results. love my hornet, but my biggest complaint has been compaired to my other bike and bikes i have ridden, the front end seems lite. these kits claim they will shift weight forward as well as shift weight against the back wheel, giving it more traction.

i got an f4i fork and shock here on wt, but i dont know if that by itself would fix my problem. i am overseas and having the parts swapped, so i would hate to have to re-tear the bike down after the swap to get a lift kit on there.

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post #2 of 20 Old 12-27-2009, 06:32 PM
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Never heard of a 919 lift kit. I'd love to shoot holes in the idea if you post a link of what you are talking about.

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A fairly common mod is to lower the front by raising the fork tubes in the triples by 5 or 10mm. This would have the same effect on weight transfer as raising the rear. That said, I doubt it would make much difference aside from making it turn quicker.

What problem are you really trying to solve? If the tendency to wheelie is the problem, an easy fix is to go up one tooth on the front sprocket.

I don't think I've ever heard anyone actually complain about the front being light on a 919. The bike's overall light weight is generally thought to be one of it's positive attributes.

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Would seem that if you do have an F4i rear on it you've already jacked it up quite a bit over stock. The F3 shock is shorter than the F4. Front forks won't make a difference unless, as others have stated, you've raised them already. When I messed with an F4 rear it was not comfortable, nor reassuring. It only serves to pitch you forward in the saddle, place more weight on your wrists, bunch up your grollies when you brake, and make the bike feel flighty.

If "light" means lack of front end feedback to you it could be tires.

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here is a link Tail Lift Kits. Wild Hair Accessories. Motorcycle Accessories & Aftermarket European Parts.

roktbox, is is your old set that i bought and having installed, and i did mean light.

and i guess what i mean by light is it feels like a lack of normal weight on the front end. really noticable in turns. doesent feel dangerous, just not like a normal bike. been riding it that way for a couple years, and i was looking for a way to correct it.

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lift kit was discussed once before. but everyone said just raise the fork tubes to lower the nose and apply more pressure to the front of the bike.

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Thats awfully expensive for a little piece of Al. I'd sooner drop the money on a good shock that will alow you to have adjustable hight in the rear. Not to mension all the other benifits.

I guess I missed the previouse discution on this topic. I'm sure it works well. But not worth it for what you get. The down side to rasing the forks is that you get less ground clearance. Raising the rear gets you the benifits of less rake/trail plus more ground clrearance. And better swing arm angle. All of which are positives. And since the 919 is such a jack of all trades, master of none its easy to do a general change and have nothing but positive effects for a specific individual.

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Thought I'd put this on a seperate reply. Raising/lowering the front or rear of the bike has not freakin' effect on weight distribution. Good lord people read a physics book. Those are terms/descriptions used to describe changes made to a bike how long ago when a racer was lucky if he could read. And they sure didn't have engineers for crew chiefs!

Its not like corner weights on a car. Raise the front lower the rear several inches you'll only change the actual distribution by literaly 1 or 2 lbs. It makes sence on paper and it holds true in practice. Get two bathroom scales and try it out. The front turn better and grips better (or worse) due to geometry changes. Not adding or subtracting 50 lbs of normal force on the tires contact patch. Same goes for the rear. The only thing that truely effects weight dist/trasfer is the location of the CG and acceleration. The pitch of the bike is completely degligable.

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In the first post you said the kit would shift the weight foreward as well as shift weight against the back wheel. WHAT??? How do you shift weight foreward as well as rearward????

The 919 is what it is.

There's just not a lot you can do with the engine or suspention. Buy really good tires. You can put an Ohlins on the rear and a set of 04+ forks on the 919, which works pretty darn well. But that's about it as far as I know.

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why mess with a good thing in the first place?
what kills me about us 919 owners is our tinkering/trying to make the machine something its not, a throughbred (sp).
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why mess with a good thing in the first place?
what kills me about us 919 owners is our tinkering/trying to make the machine something its not, a throughbred (sp).
murphys law , if it aint broke, leave it alone
Apparently you never watched Home Improvement/Tool Time.

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Thats awfully expensive for a little piece of Al. I'd sooner drop the money on a good shock that will alow you to have adjustable hight in the rear. Not to mension all the other benifits.
+1

sounds like a waste of money to me.
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Were just trying to make the 919 what we want. Which is something we can't buy in the states. Such as a cb1000r. Or an Fz1 without that silly fairing. You get the point.

I'm sure there are plenty of peopl perfectly happy with a stock 919. they are likely not on the forums because there is nothing for them to learn or discuss. They are out riding instead of typing.

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I'm sure there are plenty of peopl perfectly happy with a stock 919. they are likely not on the forums because there is nothing for them to learn or discuss. They are out riding instead of typing.
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I had a washy feeling in my bike going into corners like you're describing. Two things helped out, how much do you weigh? I'm abouty 240. So I let the rebound out a little and stiffened up the compression on my f4i forks, that helped TONS! Get your forks dialed in for your weight and riding style. Another thing that helped was relizing its not a sport bike, nor does it have the frame of a sport bike so it simply won't handle like one. I've been riding gsxrs forever so it took some getting used to but 3 years later and I still love it better that any of my "sportier" rides. Play with your compression/rebound and let me know if it helps.... Free and worth a shot.

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thanks brian, thats what i was talking about. i am having the f4i forks put on soon. i am 215lbs, so the combination of weight and worn out stock forks is probably the reason for my light corner feeling. the previous owner had done nothing but oil changes to the bike, so i doubt he ever had the fork serviced.

it was not my intent to re-invent the 919. it is the best bike i have owned or ridden. i guess i should have started this thread as "anyone else have a light front end?". i brought up the lift kit because i figured somebody on the site had tried it and was curious about the effects. i have seen things done here i would have never dreamed of on a 919.

thanks everybody for the input

redrokr- if it kills you to see people try to make the 919 something its not, you are on the wrong forum. i was talking about a lift kit. you were all up on 0cool's nuts about his single sided swing arm, talk about making it something its not.

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Super Duke. Tuono. Street Triple. SV1000.

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I have a 990 adv. I will not touch another ktm as long as I live. Tuono way to expensive and I thought way uncomfortable just sitting on it at a dealer. Streetfighter is super awsome but way to expensive. Same goes for the Beneli's. Love them but would never spend the doe on one.

SV1000. Yes, I agree that is a great bike but must search to find a standard one. The S looks just as silly as an FZ1. Of coarse this is my opinion on looks. Some guys like their girl to run around with just the top half of a bikini on.

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Sv1000, z1000, were both contenders when I was looking for another bike. If I had the dough I'd have both of those bikes. And a old school cb 1000 80's style.

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z1000 how could I forget that one? Wow I need to get off my ass and get some work done today. Besided trouble shooting that pos ktm anyway.

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