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post #1 of 38 Old 04-02-2012, 02:19 PM Thread Starter
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AAAARRRGGH! Which tires?

I know that tire questions for the 919 have been covered many times before but I need advice from you guys.

I have an '03 919 that I commute about 90k/day on. Mostly in dry conditions with the occasional rain day. I like to bend her down in the corners but I am not a super aggressive rider.

I know that many on this forum use michelin pilot road 2 or 3's but I am wondering if that is the right tire for me as I rarely ride in the rain and may want some more performance.

My local shop (Victoria, BC Canada) recommends the Metzler M5's. Does anyone here have any experience with those?


I haven't bought sport bike tires in years and years so I'm way behind the curve here in terms of what is available and new technology (dual compound) etc.

I know the PR2/3's will last longer, but I'm not convinced they are the tire for me.

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post #2 of 38 Old 04-02-2012, 02:31 PM
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For commuting, I vote the PR2's. It sounds like I'm in a very similar boat to you. I commute 86 miles a day. Sometimes in the rain (today actually) and I love my PR2's so far. Others with more experience with the Powers and 2CT's can chime in, but if you are gonna put commuting miles on I think the PR2's are great. I've had mine on for 3k miles and they look brand new. They seem to corner well enough for me, I'm not very aggressive. I'll give them the real test on the Dragon this summer though.

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+1, sounds like me too, except I have the PR 3's

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I love my 2ct's. With that said.. theres LOTS of tires out there that will handle more than you or i can throw at them.

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2CT's if you want to carve. Road 2's or 3's if you want mileage with the ability to get sporty when you want. I don't think you'll hit the limitations of the tires.

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I've got 6k on a set of PR 2's and they appear to have ALOT of life left (likely over 50%)... I've had them on the track twice and they seem to stick pretty darn well. I havent gotten a knee down, but I have gotten her leaned over quite a ways.
If you get the PR 2's you probably wont get a chance to try out anything else for awhile (unless you want to pitch a perfectly good set of tires) I vote that you get something sticky If you dont mind buying a new set every year or two. Many here say good things about the pilot powers, and claim they work well in h20 also.

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Mostly in dry conditions with the occasional rain day. (Victoria, BC Canada)
Occasional rain day???

In Victoria??

I find that hard to believe...
wait, I just did some research...
Victoria BC Weather | About Weather in Victoria BC (British Columbia)
I lived in Nanaimo for a year and it rained for about 250 days of it. I had no idea the weather was that different from each other.

Good luck with the tire search. I hear people get great mileage out of the PR2s, and if you did go north, they will be good for the rain too.

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post #8 of 38 Old 04-02-2012, 04:54 PM
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yup, vote goes to the pr2's for what you describe above. i get sporty when ever i can, almost every weekend with zero qualms and they last me a hella long time. love them!

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You probably can't go wrong with any of the newer sport touring tires: PR2, PR3, BT-23, RoadSmart, etc. PR2's have been good to me.

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Bridgestone's new S20. yum yum! Early days but having used the 003 race tyres on track I can honestly say the feed back from the S20's is very similar. Meant to be superb in the wet too. IMHO
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post #11 of 38 Old 04-02-2012, 05:07 PM
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I vote for the BT-023's haven't had a single issue with mine


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and with that posted question michelin's stock goes up $.01. gentlemen your dividend checks are in the mail.

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pr2's or pr3's

dont just think of it as a wet tire.... i ran a set of pr2's right when i got the bike and they were VERY confidence inspiring. never road them in the wet.

As i progressed i moved to the power 2ct's .... but honestly if i did any type of commuting id go with the road 2's or 3's.

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Mostly in dry conditions with the occasional rain day.
Haha. Yeah, it rains alot here but I usually only insure my bike from April to October so I miss most of the rain!




Anyone tried the Metzlers? My mechanic swears by them but admits that I won't get the mileage of the PR2's or PR3's.

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For me it was mainly about mileage, I heard great reviews of the Pilot Roads on here, so I tried them out. I'll never push the bike to the limits of the PR2's so they work for perfect for me. I have a feeling you'll get a lot of PR suggestions from this site.

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post #18 of 38 Old 04-02-2012, 08:28 PM
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I have the Avon Storm 2 Ultras. Very good tire that is rated for high mileage. I would not get these if you are going to the track every weekend but for everyday road use, I love them.

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Pirelli Diablo's. On sale at Cycle Gear for US189 for the pair. I"m on my second set. Not saying they are the best but I like them and the price is right. I commute about 3 days a weeks on average during the year and the Diablos wear well. I like to push it in the curves on occasion and they feel good. Bottom line is you're not racing and the "best" tire for street riding is always going to be a matter of personal preference.

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I rock BT016's. I got about 8500 miles out of the rear, and 85% of my usage is highway commuting (50 miles or more a day). I love 'em in the wet or the dry, and they're great when I find time to tear up the twisties.

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Anyone tried the Metzlers? My mechanic swears by them but admits that I won't get the mileage of the PR2's or PR3's.
Had Metzler Sportecs and got 3500 miles out of the rear and the front cupped bad.

I have been on PR2's for 4500 miles now and still have a lot of life left.

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Had Metzler Sportecs and got 3500 miles out of the rear and the front cupped bad.

What does "cupped" mean?

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What does "cupped" mean?
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Check out the section on cupping.

They cupped on my with around 4500 miles on them while riding the Blue Ridge Parkway fairly aggressively. It is considered fairly normal but I didn't have that issue with the OEM Bridgestones and haven't with the new PR2's

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Motorcycle Tire Wear

Check out the section on cupping.

They cupped on my with around 4500 miles on them while riding the Blue Ridge Parkway fairly aggressively. It is considered fairly normal but I didn't have that issue with the OEM Bridgestones and haven't with the new PR2's

Thanks. I think I might just go with the PR2's

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Pirelli Diablo's. On sale at Cycle Gear for US189 for the pair. I"m on my second set. Not saying they are the best but I like them and the price is right. I commute about 3 days a weeks on average during the year and the Diablos wear well. I like to push it in the curves on occasion and they feel good. Bottom line is you're not racing and the "best" tire for street riding is always going to be a matter of personal preference.
+1. My brother and I are both running these - no bad words to say about them.

Not sure about his mileage, but I have about 5,000km [3,000mi] on mine and they have plenty of tread left. Ride 'em in all kinds of weathers, no problems to report, like the way they feel....

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Metz makes a great tire. They tend to stick well with long wear. Dunlop seems to wear the longest but traction,when you grab alot of throttle leaves alot to be desired. Avon makes a decent tire too. Michelin is pretty decent too.
If your new to riding maybe ask the guys at your tire shop what everyone else with your type bike is using. They will know the best tire for the local weather conditions and riding environment. What works in California or Vermont may not be what is ideal for your particular riding environment.

How do you like Victoria? The old lady and I are going west in July. Taking 2 weeks off and riding til we hit the ocean. Once I get rolling and out that way you can give me the scoop on the best riding roads and the stuff a person has to see when they got a bike are in the area.

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Metzler's sportbike-sized tires have been greatly disappointing of late.

I'm running Avon Storms myself. Had 10K on my rear tire when it ate a nail, still had another 1/3 to 1/4 of its useful life left. Replaced it with a new Storm 2 Ultra and unless someone can show me something demonstrably better and longer lived, am likely to keep using them. Sticky in all climates, all seasons, long lived, smooth.

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How do you like Victoria? The old lady and I are going west in July. Taking 2 weeks off and riding til we hit the ocean. Once I get rolling and out that way you can give me the scoop on the best riding roads and the stuff a person has to see when they got a bike are in the area.
I was born and raised in Victoria and although I'm well traveled, I will never leave! As far as I'm concerned it is the best place in Canada to live. There are many great roads to ride here on the island and I can probably point you in the right direction.

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FYI: 2CT is just the dual compound technology. Michelin uses this in both the newer Pilot Powers, and their PR2 and PR3.
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the major ST tires out there. I'm on PR2/3, have been for over 13k miles. On my second set. But I've also heard good things about the Pirelli Angel ST. Don't forget, Dunlops just came out with the Road Smart 2, which is supposed to have similar profile as their beloved Q2.

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I was born and raised in Victoria and although I'm well traveled, I will never leave! As far as I'm concerned it is the best place in Canada to live. There are many great roads to ride here on the island and I can probably point you in the right direction.
If you ever want to venture out on the moto, you could ferry over to Port Townsend and take highway 12 to Neah Bay: Also check out Hurricane Ridge on the way back (if road conditions permit). You won't be disappointed

I like my Angel ST, inspires confidence in the rain and cold. Also took it down on tour for 3000 miles and did great in 100* riding.

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FYI: 2CT is just the dual compound technology. Michelin uses this in both the newer Pilot Powers, and their PR2 and PR3.
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the major ST tires out there. I'm on PR2/3, have been for over 13k miles. On my second set. But I've also heard good things about the Pirelli Angel ST. Don't forget, Dunlops just came out with the Road Smart 2, which is supposed to have similar profile as their beloved Q2.
I got forced into a new tire a bit earlier than I expected due to road hazard putting a nice hole in my rear tire. It was a Pilot Power, and I am going to the 2CT.

As for the Dunlop Road Smart 2's, I ran one on my Thunderbird, and managed to get about 8k miles out of it before it was time to replace... currently running a pair of Avon's on the Thunderbird, and they are wonderful! 5k on them already, and they look like at least another 5k left.

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2 or 3ct's!!! They have been tried and tested by many members in this forum, including myself. I could honestly recommend them, even for what you are doing.

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Conti Road Attack 2 - my new favourite on my 9er.
I run Continental Trail Attacks on my Transalp and when I pick up a 9er, I will run Road Attacks. I have nothing but good things to say about Continental motorcycle tires. Their car tires?....err...not so much.

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Continental is one of those tyres or products that I have always got mixed reports about. One guy would swear by them, the next guy you talk to would swear never again!

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i have ran thru 2 sets of Conti Sport Attacks and loved them. I am now on Sport Attack 2 and they are even better w/ zero break-in time.

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Pilot Road 2's. Love them. I got nearly 13k on my last set (75% commuting, 25% twisting through the countryside) and currently have about 4k on the current. I would suggest the PR3's, but I haven't tried them yet.

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