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post #1 of 25 Old 11-13-2006, 06:57 AM Thread Starter
 
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9'er for sale, and need some advice

Hey guys,

Sorry to have to write this, but I am forced to sell my 6-month-old 9'er.

Home remodelling went really over budget and business is slow, so the crunch forces sale of a few things I would really prefer not to part with. At any rate, here are the specs:

'05 Honda 919, gloss black
Sato titanium exhaust
Power Commander 3
Tail eliminator with led rear light integrator
Suburban Machinery stainless steel bars
Flapper mod
Aria helmet ($500) sz L
Joe Rocket Phoenix jacket, mesh with removable liner, sz L

(missing one bar end mirror due to a car door incident in the garage).

This bike kicks so much ass. It smokes Buells and you gotta love that. It also sounds awesome, as many of you with similar setups know well.

Here's the best part:

I purchased a complete 3 year service plan with the bike which is completely transferable. This means that if you live locally, everything including OIL CHANGES are covered completely for the next two and a half years by the certified service dept at Town and COuntry Motorsports.

This cost nearly 3000 bucks, so I am gonna lose out on this sale, but that is your gain I suppose. The amount that I will get is far less than what I paid or what I need right now, but I would like to see $7500 out of it. I know that is probably too much.

Can anyone (who isn't currently shopping for a 919) help me out by letting me know what they think would be a fair asking price for this package? I see alot of listed here and there but it is hard to know what is selling and what is not.

I appreciate any help, and if you would like to make an offer you can PM me and I will get back to you. Thanks, M

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post #2 of 25 Old 11-13-2006, 07:23 AM
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You will get more if you bring the bike back to stock (assuming you have the parts) and sell the aftermarket's individually. I'm not just saying that because I want a set of SATOs.

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I'm sure you have seen this '06 for sale. The price has been reduced to $6900 or $6200 without the mods.
https://www.wristtwisters.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=2513

Am I reading this correctly $3,000 for a 3 year service plan? cough-choke... Reality is; you have a '05 used motorcycle. All those extras are not going to get you much in the way of additional $$$. I hesitate to give you a ballpark figure, do a little homework. See what other 919's are selling for in your area then place a 4 sale ad.

Good luck with the sale!

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post #4 of 25 Old 11-13-2006, 07:42 AM
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A newish loaded bike in winter... you are going to take a bath. :chris: Do as I did, sell a car, eat top ramen and keep 919 smiling!

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These guys are right unfortunately the service plan isnt going to be worth much to most, and if your asking price seems high most people wont even look at it to realize that such a thing is included. Any chance you can get a refund from the dealer on the unused portion of the plan?
The winter thing probably isnt a prob in AZ though, LOL.

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NADA Values
Low retail: $5,130
Average Retail: $6,750

The 3-year service plan will have some value that can add to the asking price, maybe 50% of what you paid though...

I agree that you're better off taking it back to stock and selling the aftermarket pieces separately. You'll get more for the parts than the sum. If you do that, I may be interested in the bars.

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IMO NADA is over inflated! When has anyone ever paid average NADA retail price for a used bike?

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My experience with the dealers on my last two trade-ins was that they are dropping Kelley in favor of NADA. Which isn't to say that NADA has the magic number, but it is the landmark from which they work.

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Correct Ken, retail dealers. Do you agree that private sales take on a whole new meaning?

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Any chance you can get a refund from the dealer on the unused portion of the plan?
That's the funniest thing I've read all month!

Read the contract! The inflated insurance has already been spent. The cooling off period for these on a cars is at most 60 days. After I read my car's void clauses I just made the MFG deadline! Remember the hilarious "Refund, no refunds!" scene from the movie Breakingaway, that's how hard it was getting the Dealer to pay up!

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My experience with Dealers and NADA is
NADA+1000$ = Dealer asking price
NADA-1000$ = your trade in value
Its all relative to your area too, especially for bikes as compared to cars it doesnt seem to be as accurate
But I do use it to get a ballpark Idea of things for dealer and private sales

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That's the funniest thing I've read all month!

Read the contract! The inflated insurance has already been spent. The cooling off period for these on a cars is at most 60 days. After I read my car's void clauses I just made the MFG deadline! Remember the hilarious "Refund, no refunds!" scene from the movie Breakingaway, that's how hard it was getting the Dealer to pay up!
Glad I gave you a laugh, but its not my contract so I dont have it to read, and never bought such a thing myself as I do my own service, LOL.

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Sure do, Mike. Just like Kelley gives 'retail' and a 'trade-in' values, the high and lows from NADA should be used to gauge values, not determine values.

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Correct Ken, retail dealers. Do you agree that private sales take on a whole new meaning?

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I do my own service, LOL.
Smart Man, so you won't be burned and you'll learn even more!

Service contracts are a good bet for stock, new model vehicles. My car's contract limitations was too expansive! The nice sales guy never mentioned that. It took many months after receiving the contract for the Dealer to refund.

The service contract is icing to catalyze a sale, but it doesn't add much.

I hope your awesome 919 finds a great home!

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That's the funniest thing I've read all month!

Read the contract! The inflated insurance has already been spent. The cooling off period for these on a cars is at most 60 days. After I read my car's void clauses I just made the MFG deadline! Remember the hilarious "Refund, no refunds!" scene from the movie Breakingaway, that's how hard it was getting the Dealer to pay up!
Not to start something here but I actually traded a bike back to the dealer that sold it to me (DUH for a loss) but they did give me the unused portion of the contract. It might be worth asking, if it were my $3000 I'd bitch till they give something...

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suggestion:

Take off the satos, the PC3 and the bar end mirror and sell them separately. Everybody agrees you'll get more cash separating stuff and the accessories will probably move quickly at a fair price here.

That will get you some cash to float you for a few weeks and maybe things will turn around in that time.

If they are CRG bar end mirrors, I am interested in picking up a used one to try on my machine.

Satos + PC3 was like $1k retail right? You ought to be able to get $5-$600.

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Don't sell it and take a huge depreciation/tax/service bath! Since there are lots of good rides in AZ, the 919 is your first rental fleet bike. You can book it on this site! Make sure you have a huge deposit and only rent to skilled mature riders with ample insurance. Maybe there is a nationwide bike rental network.

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Don't sell it and take a huge depreciation/tax/service bath! Since there are lots of good rides in AZ, the 919 is your first rental fleet bike. You can book it on this site! Make sure you have a huge deposit and only rent to skilled mature riders with ample insurance. Maybe there is a nationwide bike rental network.
That is an awesome plan!


The fact that I will be in Tucson for a few days in January has nothing to do with my approval of this idea.

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The wolf pack is swarming...
I'll only rent it with the Satos-TI and PC3.

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Where did you buy it at? Town and Country. I may be interested in your Power Commander in a month or two. I probably live down the street from you.

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Yea, I agree I would eat **** trying to sell this thing, and more importantly, I don't want to! A correction, the service plan wasn't that much, I think around $1800. I am not a wrench spinner so it is convenient, for me anyway.

I didn't think about the time of year, since it is riding season here... 75-80 degree afternoons and chilly nights. Elsewhere in the country I suppose the market is closed and the season is near over.

Thanks for the advice everyone. I am gonna try like hell to keep my 9'er. And to eat Ramen every day... ugh.

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Ha, that is a nice thought but honestly I would rather see her go entirely than to rape her of all her lingerie. After those mods I could never ride it stock again, so all I would do is sit around waiting forever until I could buy them again, meanwhile I would have a two-wheeled dust collector in my garage.

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Take off the satos, the PC3 and the bar end mirror and sell them separately. Everybody agrees you'll get more cash separating stuff and the accessories will probably move quickly at a fair price here.

That will get you some cash to float you for a few weeks and maybe things will turn around in that time.

If they are CRG bar end mirrors, I am interested in picking up a used one to try on my machine.

Satos + PC3 was like $1k retail right? You ought to be able to get $5-$600.

David

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We should ride, at least while I still own her. I missed a ride on Sunday out to Wickenburg and over Mingus mountain into Jerome. I heard it was fantastic, and so many twisties those guys said they were begging for it to stop out of exhaustion...

I am on Kyrene/Chandler blvd on the far West side of town. You?

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Where did you buy it at? Town and Country. I may be interested in your Power Commander in a month or two. I probably live down the street from you.

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Thanks for the advice everyone. I am gonna try like hell to keep my 9'er. And to eat Ramen every day... ugh.
Yes, Ramen...Cereal...Balogna...been there, done that. Good luck!

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