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919 triple tree removal

I am currently removing the triple tree on my 919 to fit the Harris Clip-Ons. I am kind of stuck. I can't find the right fitting tool to remove the gold screws in the bottom of the tree (shown in pic)

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Its almost like the are tamper proof or stripped maybe. Anyone have experience with this? Is it supposed to be a simple fit or is there some trick to this?

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Why are you trying to remove the bolts? They hold the ignition switch to the upper triple clamp, and should not have to be removed unless you're going to powder coat the clamp. I checked the service manual, and it says "remove the bolts". Thanks a lot. Looking at them, they appear to be standard round head allen bolts, so I checked and my 6mm allen wrench fits fine. Then I took a second look and they appear to be a variation on anti tamper type bolts to prevent theives from unbolting the ignition switch. As I was disinclined to remove mine, I don't know if a standard allen key would hold well enough to remove them. Anyone else out there had these out?
I wish I could be of more help.

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Well at least I know these probably weren't stripped. Makes me feel a little better cuz the thought of that was pissing me off.

I'm removing the tree because the clip-ons I'm installing have to slide over the top of the forks.

Thanks Rob. But still need to know how to get those screws out!

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I used an allen wrench to remove mine. Not sure what size but i didn't strip anything. I had to remove it for powder coating....

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I used an allen wrench to remove mine. Not sure what size but i didn't strip anything. I had to remove it for powder coating....
What color did you powder coat the upper triple? Been thinking about doing both upper and lower on my bike.

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What color did you powder coat the upper triple? Been thinking about doing both upper and lower on my bike.
I did my bike in wrinkle black....


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I am currently removing the triple tree on my 919 to fit the Harris Clip-Ons. I am kind of stuck. I can't find the right fitting tool to remove the gold screws in the bottom of the tree (shown in pic)

https://www.wristtwisters.com/forum/a...5&d=1170100579

Its almost like the are tamper proof or stripped maybe. Anyone have experience with this? Is it supposed to be a simple fit or is there some trick to this?
You could leave the upper in place and just lower the fork tubes enough to get your clip-ons on? Think of that?

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You could leave the upper in place and just lower the fork tubes enough to get your clip-ons on? Think of that?
I think I've read its dangerous to lower the forks that much. Can't remember the reason behind it though.

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Dangerous??? You gotta be joking. There is NO need to remove the upper triple.

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I think I've read its dangerous to lower the forks that much. Can't remember the reason behind it though.
The only reason it would be dangerous is if you left them that way & lowered the bike to the ground. It might stress(bend) the fork tube a little.
Or even stress the lower clamp.
Either case, You would have to be abusive with it.

Just raise up the front end, pull the tire(for ease of application if doing this without help),Lower the fork tubes,install clip on's,put it all back together.

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Just a bit of miscommunication going on here I think.

Pabs interpreted Rev. Motocycho's advice as raise the fork tube through both triples and mount the clip-ons on top of the upper triple. We had a nice discussion about this before and why it is dangerous (instability).

What the good Reverend meant was to drop the fork tubes momentarily to mount the clip-ons then put the fork tubes back in their original postion.
I hope I am right

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Just a bit of miscommunication going on here I think.

Pabs interpreted Rev. Motocycho's advice as raise the fork tube through both triples and mount the clip-ons on top of the upper triple. We had a nice discussion about this before and why it is dangerous (instability).

What the good Reverend meant was to drop the fork tubes momentarily to mount the clip-ons then put the fork tubes back in their original position.
I hope I am right
Ahhh...I see.
Well... witch ever it is, I think he will figure it out.

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Just a bit of miscommunication going on here I think.

Pabs interpreted Rev. Motocycho's advice as raise the fork tube through both triples and mount the clip-ons on top of the upper triple. We had a nice discussion about this before and why it is dangerous (instability).

What the good Reverend meant was to drop the fork tubes momentarily to mount the clip-ons then put the fork tubes back in their original postion.
I hope I am right
Yes! That is what I meant exactly!

Although, pabs, I believe your are gonna hate this mod as it will completely make it a pain to ride your bike. A nice pain in your back. Good luck with that.

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Yes! That is what I meant exactly!

Although, pabs, I believe your are gonna hate this mod as it will completely make it a pain to ride your bike. A nice pain in your back. Good luck with that.
Speak for yourself man, I have clip-ons and love them! Although I am 20...

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Those bolts you reffer to hold the ignition in place, they are super cheap and mine came stripped from the factory, so I had to Dremmel them off and replace them with steel bolts, if they're not stripped, then it should be an 8 or 6mm socket.

These guys are right, if you're having trouble removing the upper tripple, just lower the forks and slip in the clip-on, then slide the forkleg back up to the original position.

I like the clip-ons, just don't plan on riding cross-country...


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I am currently removing the triple tree on my 919 to fit the Harris Clip-Ons. I am kind of stuck. I can't find the right fitting tool to remove the gold screws in the bottom of the tree (shown in pic)

https://www.wristtwisters.com/forum/a...5&d=1170100579

Its almost like the are tamper proof or stripped maybe. Anyone have experience with this? Is it supposed to be a simple fit or is there some trick to this?

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The ignition bolts are not stripped, they (Honda) use one way bolts (read: you can put them in but not take them out) because it's a security issue. Think about this, how useful would your steering lock be if a thief could simply come up and remove the igintion lock itself with an allen wrench?

I got mine out with a dremel: make cuts like a standard screwdriver on both sides of the head of the bolt, then use a big flathead to back them out.

Oh, and you shouldn't need to remove the ignition anyway if you are just taking the top triple off...

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Ha! That explains it...

I had a custom triple made so I HAD to remove them.

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I did my bike in wrinkle black....

Hey Adam, I keep looking at your pics and where is your throttle, starter and throttle assembly???




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Hey Adam, I keep looking at your pics and where is your throttle, starter and throttle assembly???
Ha... I'll never tell. Lets just say it was on loan for a R&D project that did not meet our expectations.

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Ha... I'll never tell. Lets just say it was on loan for a R&D project that did not meet our expectations.
Hey I forgot all about that! Gimme the lowdown when you get a chance......wait, you're retired start typing!




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O wow! Thread blew up since I've logged on. I have some stuff to report, but I'll save it for later. Working on the bike as I speak. I let you know.

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OK.... so... those gold screws, do NOT need to be removed for the tree to come off. The whole time all that had to be done is just pull up on the handle bars and off it came . It just required a bit more force than we thought it would. Clip-ons mounted now. I really like the position of these Harris high rise clip-ons. Still need to bolt on the clutch, brake, and switch boxes (including drilling that hole for the switch box notches.) Prolly have to reroute the cables for these beforehand.

We also removed the headlight and installed brackets for the Buell Flyscreen. One more coat of paint and that will be installed too!

This thing is really starting to come together like I pictured it when I bought it. I'm getting excited!

Also have D&D pipes on order (finally sold my old bike this week so I got to splurge a bit)

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Yes! That is what I meant exactly!

Although, pabs, I believe your are gonna hate this mod as it will completely make it a pain to ride your bike. A nice pain in your back. Good luck with that.
I'm 24 coming from a gsx-r 750 . I think I'll be ok. hehe

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I want to see some pics when this is done.

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I want to see some pics when this is done.
Here is where I am at with it now. Clip-ons complete. Buell screen complete. Exhaust in tomorrow. Bar end mirrors on order. Then I'm done for awhile.. I swear!

Last pic is my old bike just for giggles. I kind of missed it until I got these clip-ons installed
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Nice job Pabs, looks great! Sometimes I wish I had gone with raised clip-ons.

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Yikes, those are low. How's the lower back feel?

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motorwerks - thanks and btw, your line re-routing post was a big help. Especially with the clutch line.

Bock - back is fine . I'm acustomed to the aggressive riding position.

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Two questions, both for curiousity:

1) Do the clipons hit the tank, and if not, how did you fix that?

2) Can I have rights to first denial if you ever sell that bada$$ gixxer?

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Bock - back is fine . I'm acustomed to the aggressive riding position.
Good to hear. Better you than me

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Guys I can't stress it enough... THOSED MIRRORS HAVE TO GO!!!!!!


Good job by the way!

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tpir - switchboxes will hit the tank at full lock. its reeeeal close to fitting perfect at full lock. I am still able to lock the handlebars its so close. Doesnt seem like its gonna be a problem either. When I do U turns my hand hits the tank before any peice of the handlebar. I could have turned the bars out more, but I went with comfort over clearance. And the gixx is already sold . It was a real nice ride but the I've liked the look of the 919 for some time so I made the trade.

Barrosart - mirrors will go away next!
either http://www.oberon-performance.co.uk/...d_Mirrors.html or http://www.oberon-performance.co.uk/...-mirror-3.html

I'm leaning toward the second link because they are a bit bigger. Still small at 72mm diameter, but bigger than the mini's in the first link. What do you guys think black or silver?

O and btw, installed the D&D pipes today. I no longer sound like a sewing machine going down the road

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I personally don't like bar end mirrors with clip-ons. I just don't like how it looks. I think something like Barrosart's mirrors or others from Rizoma look the best. (warning very spendy)

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Do you know of any pics with bar end mirrors on clip-ons?

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Do you know of any pics with bar end mirrors on clip-ons?
Check out tpirman's post here.

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