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post #1 of 18 Old 01-30-2007, 07:01 AM Thread Starter
 
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Question 919 Shifting

Hey all - I just bought an '05 919 with 6k mi on it and I'm having an issue with shifting. Seems that the tranny (or me) is having issues properly engaging 6th. This happens at both high and low speeds...high speed feels fairly dramatic since I can hear the gears clunk (I'm pretty quick on the clutch but it still makes noise); low speed it just kinda dropped out of and back in to gear.

Now, I've only been riding for a year (10k mi) but I'm pretty careful about how I treat my machine. I'm not a total idiot (been driving for almost 30yrs) and know how to handle most wheeled vehicles. This doesn't happen for every 5-6 shift just kinda "whenever".

I don't know how well the bike was cared for and am now concerned that this may signify a larger issue but I wanted to gain the consensus of the forum.

Anyone else have similar experience?

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BTW - Love the bike...handles great and love the power

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post #2 of 18 Old 01-30-2007, 07:10 AM
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That was MisterMike response time right there! Impressive dadogs.

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Ok...sorry all...didn't search the archives before posting. Thanks for the replies...sounds like this old dog needs to learn a few new tricks.

Never had a problem on the Marauder - probably just one more difference when changing from the cruiser to a sport bike.

Again, thanks for the quick responses!!

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That was MisterMike response time right there! Impressive dadogs.
yeah, it's nice to see Mark back on top of his game.

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Seems that the tranny (or me)

Is that like the Department of Redundancy Department?

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Is that like the Department of Redundancy Department?
LOL...yeah, grammar ain't one of my finer points...

Seems that there are multiple possible solutions to the shifting issue:

1. If you have the $$ buy the Sato rearsets
2. Adjust the shift linkage to apply the proper amount of upward pressure
3. Flip the linkage and re-learn how to shift
4. Wear the proper shoes...seems my Nike's aren't the best choice
5. Change the oil (I am at 6K)
6. Last, but not least, learn to shift

The main thing I gleaned is that I'm not damaging the trans with the occaisional miss. However, I will take the proper measures to get things right, just in case.

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I would bump number 6 to the top of the list, then erase the rest of the list. The only time I've ever missed a shift on the 919 is when I'm shifting too timidly for the gear to properly engage. You don't have to abuse it, but a firm push is necessary for proper engagement. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

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Adjusting the shifter down helped me quite a bit, along with Repsol Oil.


The best advice I have gotten, is to make your shifts quick, pull in the clutch and bang the shifter at almost the same instant and it really smooths everything out.

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Wow, that other linked thread seemed to turn into a pissing contest pretty quickly.

I can also testify that imaginary neutral does exist. And yes it's usually a indicator to me that it's time to do an oil change and pay attention to my shifting instead of just kicking the lever around.

I've also noticed similar behavior if I try to skip gears downshifting, like go from 6 down to 3 skipping right past 5 and 4. My bike doesn't like it, and my solution is to just not do that.

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Is that Repsol oil not the most incredible thing since sliced bread... I've tried almost every brand of full synthetic & they are all pretty much the same except for the Repsol. Tell ya what though when it starts to go bad it does it quickly & the shifting consistency & smoothness goes to hell real quick.

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+1 on the repsol...


yano what sucks though is that NO ONE stocks it locally. I have to special order it...


I have asked my dealership why he doesn't stock it and his response was lack of interest... supposedly everyone wants amsoil or belray...

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+1 on the repsol...


yano what sucks though is that NO ONE stocks it locally. I have to special order it...


I have asked my dealership why he doesn't stock it and his response was lack of interest... supposedly everyone wants amsoil or belray...
Lots of people here in San Antonio are all about the amsoil. Luckily a one of the dealers north of here stocks Repsol. Use the chain lube and the oil. Wonderful stuff!

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RC90 on this board sells it.

If I have to buy it locally I just go to a Cycle Gear franchise.



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+1 on the repsol...


yano what sucks though is that NO ONE stocks it locally. I have to special order it...


I have asked my dealership why he doesn't stock it and his response was lack of interest... supposedly everyone wants amsoil or belray...

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Do you guys really feel that the Repsol makes that much of a difference? I've never used it, swapped back and forth from Mobil 1 red cap and Shell Rotella T.




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Do you guys really feel that the Repsol makes that much of a difference? I've never used it, swapped back and forth from Mobil 1 red cap and Shell Rotella T.
Dude I am telling you I have been fortunate enough to try almost every mainstream full synthetic oil over the last several years. I actually pay for the Repsol stuff now instead of using other brands I could be getting for free...

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Dude I am telling you I have been fortunate enough to try almost every mainstream full synthetic oil over the last several years. I actually pay for the Repsol stuff now instead of using other brands I could be getting for free...
Good to know, should be doing the Spring prep soon so maybe I'll pick some up and see what all the hoopla is about.




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