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post #1 of 106 Old 09-15-2016, 07:52 PM Thread Starter
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919 replacement coming at last

It just says Kawasaki on the tank instead of Honda. If it has a 5 gallon tank the wait will be over.

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post #2 of 106 Old 09-15-2016, 09:05 PM
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Nice! Glad to see that our "classic" 919s set the stage for others to follow

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Yamaha picking up the naked game with the MT/xsr motorcycles and now Kawi playing their cards... I hope Honda will follow ...

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I'm salivating!
And it has a round headlight and no insect looking front plastic crap !!!!
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Plus real suspension and no stink!!!

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post #7 of 106 Old 09-16-2016, 07:36 PM
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Ahhhh, but will it have, or have as optional, a centre stand ?

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hopefully it'll be one of those models that come supercharged.....hnggggg

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Well, if MCN predicts I, it has to be true. You know they're never wrong.

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post #10 of 106 Old 09-18-2016, 05:25 AM
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... a round headlight and no insect looking front plastic crap !!!!
^^This
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post #12 of 106 Old 09-19-2016, 05:14 AM
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the Z1 tail never quite does it to me, porportion always looks off. but it does look a little better here.
i'm pretty interested in that 3 cylinder 675cc supercharged model, as long as the headlight doesn't look like the sc-02's.. the SC-01 looks better

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post #13 of 106 Old 09-19-2016, 07:20 AM
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I think I'll stick with the 919. Looks and sounds very similar to the XSR 900 from Yamaha.

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Looks promising..........needs to be 450lbs +/- and have a 5 gallon tank thou.

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I love it, beefier looking than the yamaha




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+1, i also don't like all the exposed metal on the yamaha, it just looks unfinished, too many lines in different directions.

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I liked the Yammie until I saw the Z1 Rep

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That's some engine though, I rode the triple and it rips, right off the bottom.

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post #19 of 106 Old 09-22-2016, 08:36 PM
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It's got a nice slim design. No way that bike is going to have a 5 gallon tank though..

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post #21 of 106 Old 11-14-2016, 06:23 PM
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Not that anyone truly likes to admit it but there kind of already was a 919 replacement in case you missed it, lol.

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post #22 of 106 Old 11-14-2016, 06:30 PM
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OMG! That's dam sexy! Have to say I'm surprised that there's a new retro.

Inverted forks, liquid cooled, single rear shock, naked standard.

I really hope they do the suspension, torque curve, weight, etc right. Then I just have to wait for them to hit the used market

So many toys to buy...

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post #23 of 106 Old 11-14-2016, 08:29 PM
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Not that anyone truly likes to admit it but there kind of already was a 919 replacement in case you missed it, lol.

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As a 1-for-1 swap if you wrecked a 919 beyond repair and didn't want a used bike, sure, it's technically a replacement.

As a new bike that takes full advantage of recent technologies to make improvements in power, weight savings, or handling to stay competitive in its class, I would say it falls short.

Just my observations from reading ride reports and spec sheets.

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Not that anyone truly likes to admit it but there kind of already was a 919 replacement in case you missed it, lol.

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Curious how many happy ex-919 cb1000r owners do we have here?

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post #25 of 106 Old 11-15-2016, 12:27 PM
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It's crap still. 485 wet is porky. Not to mention the 125 hp at 10k rpms is a joke.

Don't bother with it.

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It's crap still. 485 wet is porky. Not to mention the 125 hp at 10k rpms is a joke.

Don't bother with it.
Uh, aren't those the same as the 919 numbers? The only "joke" is the price Honda was charging for a bike that wasn't much improvement from its predecessor.

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Pretty much true on all accounts... I would not buy it if I was looking for a true 919 replacement. in fact if I still had a 919 and was looking to "replace it", I'd probably be looking more at the FZ-09 (or more to my taste lately the fj-09) but the only real reason there would be the gains in Tech (because I think the Yaami -09 are about in the same ball park as far as weight goes, although they may be slightly lighter). Honda has not really made anything that stirs my heart and made me feel like I have to have one of their bikes since they produced the 919. I think the only thing they could produce right now that would perk my eyebrows up is a modern variant of the Hawk GT with a more adequate power plant. Suzuki has not been afraid to dig into the way back machine with their new and improved SV650. Honda take a frickin hint. Even if they chose not to go with a V-twin, I think I could be happy with a motor out of the 599 Hornet, combined with some nice USD front shocks (which they already had the last couple years...). Mix in a nice round headlight bucket, a rear SSSA and a healthy dose of TC and ABS, and wrap it around a properly sized gas tank, like a 5 gallon unit similar to the Hornet.... Mmmmm MMMM MMMM, Honda would have my money. I think it would be cool to have a garage full of Hawks, both old and new, lol... Then again I guess I'm silly that way.

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Pretty much true on all accounts... I would not buy it if I was looking for a true 919 replacement. in fact if I still had a 919 and was looking to "replace it", I'd probably be looking more at the FZ-09 (or more to my taste lately the fj-09) but the only real reason there would be the gains in Tech (because I think the Yaami -09 are about in the same ball park as far as weight goes, although they may be slightly lighter).
The FZ-09 is about 70 lbs lighter than the 919, with a wet weight of 415 lbs, making about the same HP and TQ numbers as the 919. It goes.

The bike that would make me sell the 919 right now is the XSR-900. Same thing as the FZ but with better suspension, a round headlight, and ABS + TC. The FZ is a killer bike, but I gotta have ABS on the next bike I buy.

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The FZ-09 is about 70 lbs lighter than the 919, with a wet weight of 415 lbs, making about the same HP and TQ numbers as the 919. It goes.

The bike that would make me sell the 919 right now is the XSR-900. Same thing as the FZ but with better suspension, a round headlight, and ABS + TC. The FZ is a killer bike, but I gotta have ABS on the next bike I buy.
The Xsr900 is sick. I rode one. Definitely a 919 replacement if you can get past the price comparison.
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I think for me the FJ-09 would be my go-to because of the fact that you can set it up for pretty comfortable for sport touring (plus the extra gas tank volume) compared to the completely naked variants.

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The Xsr900 is sick. I rode one. Definitely a 919 replacement if you can get past the price comparison.
I rode one too about a month ago. Very nice bike, comfortable and very torquey!

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The FZ09 I rode felt extremely performance oriented, a really thrilling bike. That's not what I think of when I ride my 919.

The 919 to me is a bike that disappears underneath you if equipped with a decent windscreen, zero engine heat, absurdly competent at everything and lets you enjoy some very pure elements of riding a motorcycle. For that reason I don't think there is a 919 replacement, which is a good thing, and a bad thing. The way motorcycles are being developed these days, we'll never see anything like it every again either.

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I just can't get into the alien spaceship looking headlights of new bikes.
Other then the headlight the kawi z900 looks great. but it also looks like a naked sport bike.

a lot of the current bikes seem to either look like naked sport bikes and don't look like they are intended for sport touring, or are too retro to have the performance we want. like the z900 looks great, but how are you gonna fit a passenger and luggage on there for touring. the z900rs that started this looks beautiful but probably would lack performance.
idk wth the xsr900 is.

i love that i can track/tour/hooligan the 919 without looking like i'm riding a spaceship, look a little retro instead. it could just use some modern suspension/performance. Although i don't think my next bike will be an inline 4. Too boring. I want to enjoy the engine without having to beat it.

the FZ-09 just does nothing for me in the looks dept.

there's definitely a lot of interesting stuff coming out.
The duacti 797 is also interesting.
the scrambler doesn't look serious enough to me, although i'm sure it's a hoot.
The Triumphs won't be in my price range for a few years, beautiful, but idk if they'd have the performance.

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post #34 of 106 Old 11-17-2016, 03:05 PM
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the 919 is the perfect bike.
looks and performance.
Hooliganizing or just cruising...it can do stuff.

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Ckutz, you should look at a 2nd Gen Tuono.

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Ckutz, you should look at a 2nd Gen Tuono.
they sound like amazing bikes from all the reviews i've seen. but more sportbike in the looks department than i'm interested in.
i'm sticking with the 919 for awhile, though i keep getting more in more interested in other bikes.

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Only complaints I have with the 919 are: the boring although bulletproof drive train, which includes the dime-a-dozen inline 4 exhaust note, the sloppy suspension, and the crappy headlight. If this thing had a v4 it would be the sweetest naked.

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beg to disagree bout the V-4.
I owned one....VFR800 Interceptor 2002.
I was the 2nd owner. Bike was mint.
It was too heavy and the "ALL ON" "ALL OFF" sensation of the V-anything blows.
but hey, that's why there are so many bikes....so we can find our own nice one and slip right in between it.
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Only complaints I have with the 919 are: the boring although bulletproof drive train, which includes the dime-a-dozen inline 4 exhaust note, the sloppy suspension, and the crappy headlight. If this thing had a v4 it would be the sweetest naked.

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beg to disagree bout the V-4.
I owned one....VFR800 Interceptor 2002.
I was the 2nd owner. Bike was mint.
It was too heavy and the "ALL ON" "ALL OFF" sensation of the V-anything blows.
but hey, that's why there are so many bikes....so we can find our own nice one and slip right in between it.
You really should ride a modern V-twin with good fueling/ecu, then. My 919 without pc3 and tune had a horrible on/off throttle regardless of what I did. Pc3 and custom tune helped a lot but never got that on/off switch in the throttle cured. Drove me crazy while in traffic.

My Tuono has the same sensation stock compared to the 919 with pc3/tune. I cant wait to see what it feels like with a pc and tune. Although I must admit, I find myself feathering the clutch a lot more on take off than with the 919. The power and torque is near instantaneous that it still catches me by surprise at times.

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I want the looks of the hornet with the tuono suspension brakes and motor...

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