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post #1 of 24 Old 06-14-2007, 06:40 PM Thread Starter
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919 Red Paint - soft?

So I'm in the garage the last couple nights installing rear sets. I can't help but notice the tank has a lot scuff marks on it where my legs/knees meet it and where the boys occasionally meet the end of it. Most of time I'm wearing leathers or a 'Stich, occasionally jeans. Doesn't seem to me that any of this should be leaving scuff marks. I can't get the scuffs out with Honda spray cleaner or even a cleaning wax. Hesitant to use any kind of compound since I don't know the finish technique. I'm assuming it's a clearcoat that's getting scuffed.

My '03 ST13 was silver and never had any marks on the tank with the same gear and nearly 20K miles. Any ideas why this is happening on the 9'er? Any suggestions on how to remove the scuffs? Or am I maybe better off to just get a tank slapper or something else to protect it? Suggestions appreciated!

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I'm in the same boat my friend. Scuffs on the lower left and right sides of the tank for me. I've tried everything but to no avail. On a positive note, I do find it's only noticeable at certain angles of light.

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Yeah, I'm not too happy about that either. I put a soft cargo net on the back and that scraped up the paint. Then I went to scrub a stubborn bug off with a wet cloth and that left a mark!

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Hmmmm? The matte black doesn't seem like such a bad idea now does it gentlemen?

Honda put the correct paint on the bike in 02/03.. there just isn't any way to escape this fact!

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Hmmmm? The matte black doesn't seem like such a bad idea now does it gentlemen?

Honda put the correct paint on the bike in 02/03.. there just isn't any way to escape this fact!
haha i was thinking the same about the 04 silver... you ever sell that extra tank maybe they want to convert??

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I like a tank with a few scuffs, it shows you have been riding it!

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Try Zaino. Stuff is absolutely amazing. Should work incredibly well with red. Follow their techniques exactly from the web site. Little spendy, but worth it.

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haha i was thinking the same about the 04 silver... you ever sell that extra tank maybe they want to convert??
My mint condition silver 919 tank is gone. I couldn't bring myself to sand on it.. and the ZX-11 drag bike project wants to get paid.. so I sold it on eBay.

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Thanks for the link, rippinbyu. I've heard lots of good thigns about Zaino stuff in the past so I guess this is as good a time as any to try it out. I'll probably buy some scuff pads for the tank too -- that'll put a top to this and give me more leg grip in the corners.

Oh and you matte black guys? I love your color. It's the quintessential street fighter color. But red is fastest

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I'm pretty sure that wind moves better over the matte, so that would make our bikes faster. Sorry Ken.

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Hmmmm? The matte black doesn't seem like such a bad idea now does it gentlemen?

Honda put the correct paint on the bike in 02/03.. there just isn't any way to escape this fact!
The Matted paint causes to much wind resistance making it the slowest color out there.

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Hmmmm? The matte black doesn't seem like such a bad idea now does it gentlemen?

Honda put the correct paint on the bike in 02/03.. there just isn't any way to escape this fact!
+1

Matte grey here (or "Smoke" as Honda ridiculously called it).

I just have barely noticeable, shiney spots wherever stuff rubs on a regular basis.

Silly late model 9ers - wax is for cars!

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Nah, ya see, wax reduces wind resistance and that's why we are fastest!


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They are just maken excuses.
They are still wondering how those pretty "painted" & "waxed" GP bikes go 200mph.

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Try crushing up some Viagra and making it into a paste. Rub it on the gas tank. That will harden the clearcoat.

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So I'm in the garage the last couple nights installing rear sets. I can't help but notice the tank has a lot scuff marks on it where my legs/knees meet it and where the boys occasionally meet the end of it. Most of time I'm wearing leathers or a 'Stich, occasionally jeans. Doesn't seem to me that any of this should be leaving scuff marks. I can't get the scuffs out with Honda spray cleaner or even a cleaning wax. Hesitant to use any kind of compound since I don't know the finish technique. I'm assuming it's a clearcoat that's getting scuffed.

My '03 ST13 was silver and never had any marks on the tank with the same gear and nearly 20K miles. Any ideas why this is happening on the 9'er? Any suggestions on how to remove the scuffs? Or am I maybe better off to just get a tank slapper or something else to protect it? Suggestions appreciated!
It's not that red is softer, it's just that it's red. Red has always been a difficult color in certain ways, like fade, color matching (ask any bodyshop guy) and amplifying every little flaw or scratch. This might be because of the way it refracts light, some sort of a wave length thing (I bet Rob could explain it better). I'm willing to bet your ST had scratches, it's just very hard to see them because of the wave length at which it refracts light. Well, thats my story and I'm sticking to it.

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It's not that red is softer, it's just that it's red. Red has always been a difficult color in certain ways, like fade, color matching (ask any bodyshop guy) and amplifying every little flaw or scratch. This might be because of the way it refracts light, some sort of a wave length thing (I bet Rob could explain it better). I'm willing to bet your ST had scratches, it's just very hard to see them because of the wave length at which it refracts light. Well, thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
Well, I'm not the Rob you refer to, but you're right about red. I'm a Builder-Architect, and even using reds on buildings is a problem. We always have to account for extra, extra coats to get full ceverage, and tint the base primer coat if we have to. We just painted 1 stinking door red last week, the entry door to a house, and it took all day just to paint that 1 door , but I guess I can't be too mad, since I'm the one who specified it I hate dealing with reds, but I love the color.

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Well, I'm not the Rob you refer to, but you're right about red. I'm a Builder-Architect, and even using reds on buildings is a problem. We always have to account for extra, extra coats to get full ceverage, and tint the base primer coat if we have to. We just painted 1 stinking door red last week, the entry door to a house, and it took all day just to paint that 1 door , but I guess I can't be too mad, since I'm the one who specified it I hate dealing with reds, but I love the color.
Yes you are right, I was refering to ROBTHARLSON but it sounds like you have alot of experience with the hassles of the color red as well.
I love the color too, so I put up with it's idiosyncracys.

Has anyone noticed that there is no middle ground with red headed women?
Thier either smokin' hot or butt ugly. I think this is proof that red is a difficult color.

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Has anyone noticed that there is no middle ground with red headed women?
Their either smokin' hot or butt ugly. I think this is proof that red is a difficult color.
Attachment 3287Yea...They start out smokin' hot then end up butt ugly.
We just need the right rubbing compound & polish to bring back the beauty!

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From what I can tell, the tank has a clearcoat. Not sure what, if anything, is recommended for removing scuffs from clearcoat. I may just buy some scuff pads and be done with it. That will put an end to ongoing maintenance. Thoughts?

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From what I can tell, the tank has a clearcoat. Not sure what, if anything, is recommended for removing scuffs from clearcoat. I may just buy some scuff pads and be done with it. That will put an end to ongoing maintenance. Thoughts?
I've had real good luck with 3M "finesse-it" and "safe-cut" by the wax shop. If the scratches are minor, I would just use the safe-cut followed by a coat of wax.

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