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post #1 of 29 Old 04-28-2012, 04:56 PM Thread Starter
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919 owners. I need your advice. Thinking of trading in my CBR for 919.

Hello all. I could say I am pretty new in this forums. So I have a 2003 CBR 600RR. I use it everyday to go out, to school and work, and to ride. Anyway I came across a 919 and the owner was interested in a trade. At first I didnt show interest, but when I did some research on the bike, it turned out to be the bike that fits my riding style. I am not a hardcore track racer, I mostly ride in the freeway or back roads and a lot of riding in the city. I rarely use the power of my bike, except maybe when accelerating, but never hit the red line. Comfort on the bike is okay, believe it or not I have no problem riding it for more than an hour, just my hands start to get numb. Anyway I get around 30 to 35 mpg on my bike. I know its not great, but its pretty good for a performance bike. The 919 I am looking at is in perfect condition. 2003 model, never raced or dropped and has a ton of extras. Windshield, two brothers and power commander. I know a lot of guys here ride a 919, a great guy who I only know by the name of Toast told me to go here. I just need some helpful info from you guys to help me make up my mind. Keep the RR or get the Hornet. What is the fuel economy the 919 like? does it require less maintenance than my RR? Valve adjustments is probably less because it 9k RPMs. How is the reliability of the 919? I read a comment that they are one of the most reliable "overbuilt and under used", but I want opinions on people who actually own them. I love my RR, but also love the looks of a street fighter. If I could own both I would, but as for now I have to stick to one. Thank you everyone. And I hope to get a lot of Info!

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Sounds like the 919 is perfect for your style of riding. My 919 gets about 42 MPG and that's mostly pleasure riding on backroads. I have 45K miles on mine and the only failures I have had are rear wheel bearings at 37K miles and a rear brake switch at about 35K miles. Total cost to fix myself ~$60. Most of the other money I spend is on mods, gas, oil and tires. Others have had other failures, but they are very rare.
The only downside that some people have is the "exhaust stink" on your jacket from the undertail exhaust. Some have it and some don't. Mine had it and I changed my exhaust to a low side 900RR.

Overall a great bike.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

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Welcome! I think you already have your answer. There's pros and cons to each bike, you just need to ride the bike whose pros match your current desires. Keep reading here. Search everything you can think of.

You will be giving up a lot of cornering performance switching to the 919, but you will gain ear to ear grins that the naked, 919 hooliganism brings. It really is a fun bike, especially around down. It has great, useable power and because of it's shortcomings and lack of wind protection it makes for fun at slower speeds compared to a faired sport bike. It is indeed bulletproof and really inexpensive to maintain. Just be prepared for the stink, if yours has it. Not a big deal. I'm sure I will miss it as I will the bike.

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Well I've got some 84,000+ miles on my 919.My fuel avg is closer to 30-35 mpg.I've no real issues happen to the bike.Rear wheelbearing at about 23,000/Headlight starter switch (broken connection easy fix)/bad [email protected] under tank.
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Trading a CBR600 for a 919,for the riding you do perfect.Of course the 919 is the perfect bike for me, so my opion maybe a bit onesided.

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Welcome! I think you already have your answer. There's pros and cons to each bike, you just need to ride the bike whose pros match your current desires. Keep reading here. Search everything you can think of.

You will be giving up a lot of cornering performance switching to the 919, but you will gain ear to ear grins that the naked, 919 hooliganism brings. It really is a fun bike, especially around down. It has great, useable power and because of it's shortcomings and lack of wind protection it makes for fun at slower speeds compared to a faired sport bike. It is indeed bulletproof and really inexpensive to maintain. Just be prepared for the stink, if yours has it. Not a big deal. I'm sure I will miss it as I will the bike.

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Don't listen to him ^^^. He just sold his 919 .

Seriously, though, have you taken it for a ride? The reliability of the engine is well known. Broken parts are mostly wear-out replaceables anyway (bearings, tires, oil, etc.).

And this site is THE place for 919 owners, bar none. Whatever you decide, honestly, they are both great bikes. I think once you realize how hard it is to wipe that torque induced grin off your face (after riding the 919) you won't want to go back.

And only an hour of comfort on your bike? Even stock on the 919, I could go two or three before wanting to stop to 'loosen up'.

Regardless of whether you switch bikes or not, stick around! You'll like it here.

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sounds like the 919 is the perfect bike for you.

Obivously wind protection is less. but beyond that thats about the only negative i see given the situation you describe.

like others have said the 919 is BULLETPROOF. i beat the living piss out of mine... probably saw the revlimiter at least a dozen times today out in the twistie cayons and thats how i always have ridden it... valve check i did 2k mi ago at 16k... everything perfectly within spec, and i aint usin no fancy ass expensive oil.... cheap shell rotella t 15w-40 is what it gets.

bahhaha i just started an oil thread :P

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Well if the guy wants to trade bikes this would be a perfect opportunity to do a "trial" trade for maybe 100 miles or 2 days or something. If either wants to back out after the trial then the deal is off. Both win. You just have to trust the guy to not hose over your bike and he has to trust you.

After a day or so you'll know if the 919 is right for you.

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sounds like the 919 is the perfect bike for you.

Obivously wind protection is less. but beyond that thats about the only negative i see given the situation you describe.

like others have said the 919 is BULLETPROOF.
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You guys are making me want my old 919 back. I do miss it. I should have just shut up and did the 900rr exhaust conversion.

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I traded a Shadow 750 Ace for my 919 earlier this month, and have yet to look back on the decision. Every once in a when my dad wants to go riding, he takes my 919 and I'm stuck on my brother's 2006 ZX-636 Ninja and after about an hour I'm ready to call a cab and ditch my brother's bike due to aches and pains. I have really fallen in love with the 919. Honda did an amazing job at shifting the crotch rocket fun of 100+mph to emphasize 0-100mph on the 919. I use my bike mainly for back roads and interstate commuting, and I honestly couldn't be happier. It's comfortable, nimble, quick, and incredibly FUN!

Sad thing is I had never even heard of a 919 until the craigslist ad I responded to since I wanted something bigger and faster than my Shadow. The ONLY reason the guy traded me was his wife said that if he had a cruiser, she would ride with him. Other than that he said he would have never traded (and I don't blame him). The 919 on a twisty road is some of the most fun you can have with your gear on lol.

Good luck in your bike decision! Seems like you have a winner for a bike either way!

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And the last few tanks were anywhere from 37-42mpgs. Not bad considering I like to wind the bike up pretty good on a regular basis

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...I think you'd come out of the deal the winner, but you need some seat time to make sure YOU are happy with the bike, and don't end up looking back with regret...

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We're kinda biased, eh? For balance you need to post the same question on some CBR dominant forum!

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You only live once - and like there aren't a 1000 cbr's out there to get back into if you decide this isn't for you I'd say go for it on that alone.

The "exhaust stink" i've never noticed it nor has the wife commented - so that's kind of a non issue for me. I hated the stock seat and handlebars (too much pull back put my wrist at an angle) but that was fixed with some renthal's and a spencer seat mod all for under $200. If you want National Cycle has a good looking F16 windscreen for some wind protection.

You should respring the front for you, and the rear will be very stiff with the 2003 model. Some people will fix it some people won't. Depending on how retentive you are on suspension this may be the only sticking point - do some research on the rear suspension on this site for info.
I normally get around 40 mpg.

Overall the "i can be at any rpm above 2k and use the throttle without fear" is this bike's path to my heart - Super street friendly and fun in any gear.

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Thanks for all the answers guys. Its a really hard choice for me! but I think I want to do the trade. I have a place in my heart for those street fighters with straight handle bars. I talked to him, and he was not willing to put money on top of the trade, but he had a lot of after market parts that would add up and equal my bikes KBB. Choices Choices! I know both Honda's are reliable, but I will keep reading posts here about the 919 and ill update you guys with my decision. Either way, I will be visiting this forum quite often. A lot of nice guys round here that are willing to help! thanks again.

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though there were 3 years in between, I went for an F4i to a 919. My reason was primarily financial, they could be had for CHEAP! And I guess I wanted to something diff. The 919 fits my style better, I am a commuter that hits the twisties occasionally. I loved the F4i, I like the 919. There will be a big drop in features, the 919 is just stripped down, from the instrument cluster to the susp settings. I am not bashing the 919, I really like mine, but the thing doesnt even have helmet locks...
In my opinion its not an even trade, the rr is worth more, so go with the trade if you want, but take some cash too.

Again, I am just happy to have a bike, and 9er is bulletproof as stated, like mine better with the 17/44 520 conv, but we can get to that if you take the plunge ; )

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Just because you may want to switch to the 919 doesn't mean it has to be that one. Check out the going rates for both bikes in your area. Folks here can give you a good estimate for the 919 with more info on it. There's no sense selling yourself short in the deal.

You can get used PC 3's here for under $175 frequently and some Delkevic's (which are nicer than the Two Brothers, IMO) are under $300 shipped.

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You guys are making me want my old 919 back. I do miss it. I should have just shut up and did the 900rr exhaust conversion.
Haha, you can't pull that card now - we told you to do that like umpteen times, man....


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Still thinking. But the 919 owner is really down to trade! Lol I still have not asked this question in the 600RR forums, but doing that will only cause me more thinking aha. I read everywhere that the 919 is reliable, but I know my CBR is also one reliable bike. I guess cost of ownership is even and gas mileage the 919 is a bit better. Hope I get the better deal if the trade ever happens.

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Hope I get the better deal if the trade ever happens.
only way to get the "better" trade is to get cash on top of the trade. the cbr will easily resell for more than the 919 due to it's popularity.

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The 919 will be more comfortable and have less buzz in the hands. If you dont appreaciate the finer points of the 600, I suspect you will prefer the 919. I have a friend who has owned a F3 and and F4i, and we trade on and off. The only time I want his bike is when there are twisties around. The only time he isnt offering to trade rides? When there are twisties around. After an hour of riding I take pity on him and let him ride the 919

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"only way to get the "better" trade is to get cash on top of the trade. the cbr will easily resell for more than the 919 due to it's popularity. "

+1 (I was thinking this also)

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Have you looked at resale value of each bike? This could be the leverage to ask for cash with the trade.

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never rode a 600 but id think the low to mid range power of the 919 would be more fun for everyday riding...

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never rode a 600 but id think the low to mid range power of the 919 would be more fun for everyday riding...
It is. For me at least. I don't live up at the top of the rev range often.

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It is. For me at least. I don't live up at the top of the rev range often.
really? i must be doing something wrong then cuz i spend a lot of time at the top of the rpm range in first and second gear, sometimes even third

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Same here man. I rarely gun my bike. I shift at about 5k rpms when commuting. My RR is always in 6th gear and I can sense it wants to run at higher rpms. So toast you ride an f4i? How's that bike like?

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Same here man. I rarely gun my bike. I shift at about 5k rpms when commuting. My RR is always in 6th gear and I can sense it wants to run at higher rpms. So toast you ride an f4i? How's that bike like?
Yeah I ride an F4i. It's a nice and agile machine. A good bike for how much it costs. However, the engine is most fun when it wakes up above about 9-10k...typical behavior of your 600 i4. So far I haven't had any troubles with it. Its pretty comfortable too for a sportbike. My friend used to travel on one quite often.


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Yeah I ride an F4i. It's a nice and agile machine. A good bike for how much it costs. However, the engine is most fun when it wakes up above about 9-10k...typical behavior of your 600 i4. So far I haven't had any troubles with it. Its pretty comfortable too for a sportbike. My friend used to travel on one quite often.


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I replied without realizing what thread I was replying to haha. The bike is probably very similar to yours, except more comfortable. I don't ride it like a sportbike though. I do too much commuting and cruising around normally.


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