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post #1 of 27 Old 10-25-2006, 10:27 PM Thread Starter
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919 Maps for Power Commander PC III

How many people use the power commander and wish there was a better database for mod maps. Would enjoy hearing your experiences of testing new maps. I'm using the Two Brothers Racing Dual slip-on exhaust and stock air filter from the website.

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post #2 of 27 Old 10-26-2006, 04:24 AM
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Have you looked here? http://www.919.org

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the yahoo group has several maps posted

steve's site (honda919rider) has some in the files area iirc

the dynojet site has both approved-dyno-center-maps as well as some user/owner maps

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That board sounds (can't see it ) like contains a lot of great 919 history. But with <20 posts this WHOLE year it is stagnate. Could all its great info be archived/searchable on this site?

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That board sounds (can't see it ) like contains a lot of great 919 history. But with <20 posts this WHOLE year it is stagnate. Could all its great info be archived/searchable on this site?

what board is that?

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Is that the one you are a member of that has the maps? Thanks!

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that site is just a place for H9r to store stuff...not an active community

and yeah, i'm prolly a member from a few years back

h9r has a couple websites w/ the geocities link being the main one for the 919 stuff

http://www.geocities.com/honda919rider/

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/H9R/

and most of his stuff is archived both in the regular yahoo group http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/hornet900/ and inside project919.com's link or FAQ database...there's stuff in http://forums.project919.com but that forum is still emerging from the muck

if that's not enough and you have some ideas for better/improved solutions, drop me a pm/email...i can offer webspace/dbspace/ftpspace for the self-motivated but i don't have time to maintain any xtra stuff at the moment

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Hi Ratdog,

Thank you for the pointers and great info! These sites are incredible resources!
FYI: several link to H9R, so I look forward to my membership being processed to check them out.

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Are there maps that increase gas mileage?

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I love resurrecting old posts - what Maps are people using in their 919's? How many people shop around and then settle on the one they began with? I have Kyle's Sato map on the bike right now and was thinking of tinkering a bit to see what differences could be made - but is it worth the time in everyone's experience? What does everyone have installed for their bikes, tuner shop, power commander defaults, interweb designs, or their own concoction?

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How many people use the power commander and wish there was a better database for mod maps. Would enjoy hearing your experiences of testing new maps. I'm using the Two Brothers Racing Dual slip-on exhaust and stock air filter from the website.
I remember reading the original "Simpson map" thread which was very informative and convinced me to buy a PCIII because it sounded like so much fun to mess with, you should post a link for the newer guys.

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Someone should dowload all the known maps and post a sticky here the best 9er forum on the planet. Sorry I'm not computer savy enough.

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I have been trying to find one for Leo Vince slip-ons. Right now I am using a Mori map. It is a tad rich, but it works.

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they all "work"

spend the $300 and get a map made...then share it w/ the rest of us who didn't spend the $$

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Once i have mine I will.

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Oh yes if anyone wants to get rid of a PCIII jus lemme know.

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Are there maps that increase gas mileage?
try a 17t front sprocket

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they all "work"

spend the $300 and get a map made...then share it w/ the rest of us who didn't spend the $$
Once I get it on a Dyno I will, but if you want it now you can paypal me the money.

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post #19 of 27 Old 05-12-2009, 01:30 PM
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Bump. Going to need a good map here soon...help is appreciated...

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Oh yes if anyone wants to get rid of a PCIII jus lemme know.
There is a used one on e-bay right now.

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PCIII and Yoshi TRS

I've got a a set of Yoshi TRS carbons, and a PCIII that came with the cans. I don't know what map it is, but it works fine. Only suspect that it is running a bit richer than the stock, but it makes good power all the way from idle to redline. Intend to put it on a dyno and get it fully sorted when I can stop spending money on other crap.

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post #22 of 27 Old 05-13-2009, 07:03 AM
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Once again, my 2 cents...

Seems every time I post anything about the Power Commander I get other members panties in a bunch, but oh well. It wouldn't be a forum if everyone agreed with everyone and didn't at least try their best to disagree or make another member look like an idiot.

But anyway, once again: I had my Honda dealer install the PC3USB before I added anything else. Their mapping job totally sucked. It ran worse than it did when I rode in in to their shop! So after a couple weeks I took it out! Then when I replaced my stock mufflers with Yoshi's I felt a bit of a need for a new map. Local techs and friends told me I needed to remap it too. But I noticed the only maps I could find on the enclosed disc and even on DynoJet's site were for Two Brothers and Erion cans. None were listed for Yoshi. So I called Yoshimura and they suggested I go ahead and use the maps for TwoBros. But before I got a chance to remap it, I replaced my Y-Pipe with an OEM earlier model without the cat. That, in the opinion of all my local bike friends and bike racers I spoke to at the track, would increase flow a bit and would require remapping (aboujt 483 WT members disagree, but oh well).

I reinstalled the PC3 myself and when I finally got around to remapping it. With barton664's help over the phone as to what to click on, I tried the map for the Two Brothers map but found it didn't really work that great. A couple days later, I remapped it to the Erion map and noticed a huge difference! I kept this map until I installed the K&N air filter.

After still feeling that "something was missing" in the lower end, I called DynoJet and they made some adjustments to my rpm's up to 3,000 and turned on the Accelerator Pump Feature. For all you kill-joys, you'll notice I did NOT say that DynoJet "mapped it remotely". Didn't need a new arguement started like before. So anyway, there was a huge difference. But people riding behind me were telling me that every time I cracked the throttle at any speed to pass a car or something, small puffs of black smoke came out. I even started to notice black sooty spots on my bikes tail section (lights and fender). So I turned off the ACF and no more black smoke puffs! And it still runs awesome!

So my current map is basically just the Erion map with a few tweeks to the rpm's up to about 3 grand. I shared it with another guy with a 919 with Yoshi's and K&N and he loves it! He said he also noticed a difference. As for specifically finding a map for Yoshimura cans, no cat, and a K&N it seems there just isn't one out there that I can find.

So there you have it. My map story, and I'm sticking to it! And I'm sticking to the current map. It seems to do fine, and already cost me enough for the PC3 plus the LCD Unit (on top of all the other crap I've added) that I have no immediate plans to rush out and pay someone $300-500 to put my bike on a dyno. I'm not trying to produce a rocketship on steroids. Just a bike with a wee bit more power off the line. Seems I got what I want now. Several WT folks have talked me out of the 16 tooth sprocket because I'm not a fan of power wheelies.

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Anyone ever make a map for a stock bike with baffelectomy?

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I don't know what 'standards' the US pipes are sold too but if you look on any European makers site with EU approved slip-ons they all state - "no remapping required". Leo Vince, Scorpion etc. Now this is provided you retain the inserted noise reducer.
What is happening here is the outlet reducer is providing more back pressure and is closer to 'stock'. Remove this and the systems become more straight through and noisy.

Having said that a PC that has a map specifically done for your bike, even in stock trim should show improvements. I am always surprised at the comments relating to using XYZ map but it's 'running rich', and I fail to understand why you have not invested in a custom map.

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Because it costs money and some folks believe they can get something better than the stock map by beginning with a modified map and adjusting from there.

This is the 'old school' way, ride and try.

Dyno tuning is great but using a target air fuel ratio and just putting the dyno system on "auto" won't get you exactly what you need either. Nope an experienced tuner and hours of dyno time are best, many settle for less than 'best'.

Dynojet included the 3 buttons for a reason, though more often than not, the reason is abuse.

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A couple more map links:

919.org Sato & Moriwaki maps by Dan Kyle & M.Wheeler respectively:
919.org PCIII maps page

Stock Bafflectomy map (by Dynojet staff) and 900rr single side exhaust map via the yahoo group:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/hornet900/files/

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FYI:
Dynojet will not post a map on their site unless it has been created using their 250 dyno from an approved tuner that has also paid the annual dynojet "you're allowed to do that" fee.

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