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919 hazard & passing switches

I just discovered something interesting, that I had not known before...

In the UK, 919's have a hazard light switch on the right hand control & a flash-to pass switch on the front of the left side control...

Fascinating! I wish mine had these features!





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no pics, but I can refer you here:

hondahornet.co.uk • View topic - Missing My "Passing" and "Hazard" Switches

I'm hoping to hear some confirmation of this...I would definitely be interested in retrofitting.

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That would be interesting if you can retrofit it.
I miss those switches since I went from Triumph to Honda. (My 1998 Triumph had them. Bought here in the U.S.A.)

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I noticed this before as my electronic repair manual references these switches. Didn't take me long to track this to the European designed 919

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I would love to have this on my 9er... If anyone finds a source, let's try to get a group buy together.

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I've confirmed it in talking to a member on the Hornet's nest...

As to a group buy, I suspect the only route for getting the different control pods will be ebay.co.uk.

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Actually, you might have more luck getting them from Italy.

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would be nice, but it is too pricey

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I guess that means that american ones dont have these.
Mine has hazard and passing switches still.

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We got them on ours too...along with a 200 kph limiter. Booo!

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I wish hazard was a requirement on US machines. Would have used that feature quite a few times while caught in heavy rain.

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Both of my dad's suzuki's have "flash to pass" buttons on the front of the left controls.

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My buddies GSXR 750 has the hazard switch. I thought it was a cool feature and wish I had it on my bike.

What is flash-to-pass???

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Flash-to-pass is a switch that will flash the high beams...but it's a spring loaded switch like the starter button, so it will only activate while it's pressed.

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Flash-to-pass is a switch that will flash the high beams...but it's a spring loaded switch like the starter button, so it will only activate while it's pressed.
Man, that's cool. I've always wanted to retrofit something like that on my 919. Do you think there's some internal wiring set up for this in the control pod that I could use?

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i leave my high beam on 100% of the time anyways....

and have made a simple switch that gives me hazzards (simply connects the left and right side blinker wires together.... this is with LED blinkers and an aftermarket 4 dollar blinker relay to correct fast blinkers)

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Flash-to-pass is a switch that will flash the high beams...but it's a spring loaded switch like the starter button, so it will only activate while it's pressed.
Thanks for the explanation... although I still don't get why you flash your high beam when you pass someone. I just change lanes and go past.
Seriously, I've never heard of this feature before - unless it's being used the same as the tailgater that pulls right up on your ass as if to say "I'm going faster than you and I want you out of my lane".

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Seriously, I've never heard of this feature before - unless it's being used the same as the tailgater that pulls right up on your ass as if to say "I'm going faster than you and I want you out of my lane".

Yep, that's its function. Apparently in Europe, you are supposed to do this, and other drivers respond. It's just here in amurrika that we get all wrapped up in being first in line all the time!

I would use this feature alot, when approaching a sketchy looking intersection, or overtaking a car who's driver looks like they may sideswipe me! I already do, flipping the hi/lo beam switch. Hazard lights would be handy in a number of situations.

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Yep, that's its function. Apparently in Europe, you are supposed to do this, and other drivers respond. It's just here in amurrika that we get all wrapped up in being first in line all the time!

I would use this feature alot, when approaching a sketchy looking intersection, or overtaking a car who's driver looks like they may sideswipe me! I already do, flipping the hi/lo beam switch. Hazard lights would be handy in a number of situations.
yup... you see it all the time on the autobhan.... where the fast lane is truly the fast lane... your only in that lane if 1. you are going hella fast.... 2. if your passing someone thats slow and get right back in the slow lane.

my buddies ktm 690smc has the flash to pass button... never saw that point as like stated... i just go around... makes life more fun.

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I contacted a friend of mine who does import/export in Italy. Would anyone be interested in sets of the Euro controls with flash-to-pass and hazard, and if so at what price?

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FYI, The wiring harness on our US model bikes won't allow us to just plug & play with the new switches. We would need to add or modify wiring to make it work.

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I would be interested. But what price are they looking for?

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FYI, The wiring harness on our US model bikes won't allow us to just plug & play with the new switches. We would need to add or modify wiring to make it work.
ya... the flash to pass side should be plug and play.... the hazzard light on the other hand... no

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Don't know yet on the price. Also, I should probably have one set shipped over first to see how compatible (or not) they are in reality.

For that matter, anyone got a wiring diagram for the US and EU versions so we can compare?

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I would be interested. But what price are they looking for?
+1, I would like to have them too.

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For that matter, anyone got a wiring diagram for the US and EU versions so we can compare?
I was only pointing out that the wiring would need to be modified...it shouldn't be terribly difficult to take care of, though.

I don't have the Euro wiring diagram, but I'm sure it would be available from someone on the Hornet's nest.

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Id be interested in a left side control depending on the cost of shipping.

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Id be interested in a left side control depending on the cost of shipping.
+1 for me............

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Okay, I will see about having one set sent over so we can see what we'd need to do to adapt them.

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I've got them on mine (New Zealand). I use the high beam flasher to warn other riders that there is a cop on the road ...........

The hazard switch is cool on lonely nights in the garage - you can turn up the stereo, switch the hazards on and have a private disco!

It is possible the wiring is on your USA looms - just not plugged in.

I'd price a switch block for you here but I suspect you could fly to NZ for a weeks holiday and return home for the price the local dealer would want!

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I seem to have a source from Italy, so we'll see how that goes.

Me, I couldn't care less about flash to pass, I'm interested in the four-way flashers - but I'll fit both to see whether they work and/or how much modding it will take to make them work on a US bike.

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I seem to have a source from Italy, so we'll see how that goes.

Me, I couldn't care less about flash to pass, I'm interested in the four-way flashers - but I'll fit both to see whether they work and/or how much modding it will take to make them work on a US bike.

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I seem to have a source from Italy, so we'll see how that goes.

Me, I couldn't care less about flash to pass, I'm interested in the four-way flashers - but I'll fit both to see whether they work and/or how much modding it will take to make them work on a US bike.
I would be interested adding this option to my 9'er as well

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Unlikely. They will be bought catch as catch can. Fortunately the Europeans tend to crash their Hornets often.

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Here's a thread on the emergency flasher subject: https://www.wristtwisters.com/forums/...ers-24609.html , one that will only work with the key on, and another that will function with the key on or off. Relatively simple (at least for me).

The flash to pass would be a cinch -- all you need is a washdown rated subminiature microswitch such as McMaster-Carer # 8085T13 McMaster-Carr ~$7.50 which will fit in the left side switch housing and can be wired directly to the headlight switch with little trouble. All you need then is the button end of a small pushbutton that can be mounted to the front of the switch housing to push the lever on the microswitch and a little creativity to mount the microswitch in the housing.

I'm willing to bet that the emergency flasher feature requires a somewhat different main harness as well as the switch housing, but since I can't find a wiring diagram for a European / Canadian / anywhere but here model to compare to a U.S. model diagram I'm not going out on a limb on that subject.

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Still working on getting the first set at a good price. Not wanting to sink a lot of cash into it if it doesn't work.

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