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post #1 of 14 Old 01-30-2010, 08:03 AM Thread Starter
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919 Front Wheel Spacers - Collars

Changing the tires on the 919 for the second time I had the same question to myself I had the first time--Which side does the collar with the shoulder go on in the front? I searched here & found maybe 1-2 threads is all about what I thought would be a large topic. They said the collared spacer goes on the clutch side.

I admit last time I changed my tires I did not pay attention figuring the FSM would save me but I read that thing cover to cover & it made no mention of the spacers on one side or the other.

I installed with the collared spacer on the throttle side--the brakes worked fine--no dragging, everything tightened up fine, wheel spun fine then & now. I then rode for about 7,000 miles this way which brings us to today.

As I said this time I found the above threads & low & behold the FSM does show the collared spacer on the clutch side in one figure--but never a photo or mention in the text anywhere else. But in this sole pic it also shows the spacer backward--the collar has to go toward the fork leg, not the wheel.

So my question is, particularly to those of you who have never had your front wheel removed, what side is the front collared spacer on--clutch or throttle?


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post #2 of 14 Old 01-30-2010, 08:35 AM
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I have an '07 I bought used with low mileage and I doubt the front end has been apart. It looks like the collared spacer is on the throttle side with the collar facing the fork. Also, on page 13-13 of the FSM, it appears to show the collar in this position. I think it's the right side of the wheel based on the angle of the wheel spokes. So I think that other diagram is flat out wrong - interesting.

I'm glad you brought this up. I usually regard those FSM diagrams as gospel truth. Not so, apparently.

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Just happen to have a spare front end laying around. As you can see from the photo the spacers can only be assembled properly one way. the collared one belongs on the throttle side as shown in my photo. The FSM photo shown above is incorrect.


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Mine has been the same as both replys above for the last 7,000 miles (was factory assembled before that). Sounds like I'm good then.

I see the pic you mean, (13-14 though in my copy) & yes it shows a spacer but they do not say what side of the wheel is up (although you mention its probably the right) & they do not say what collar it is (although seems to be the collared one).

Thanks---but I would still like to hear as many checks as possible from 919ers.


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Mr. Mike is very correct - no surprise there. The collared spacer goes on the throttle side. Odd though, is that my FSM has no such view as shown above. Mine is a 2002 manual that came with a stack of updates through to 2005. Is the view above really from a Honda FSM, or maybe an aftermarket one that has an error in it.

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Its the Honda manual, page 13-0, the one right before chapter 13 front suspension.

Here is the thread that had me doubting myself--stating it went to the clutch side.

https://wristtwisters.com/naked-bikes...-question.html

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The collar spacer cannot go on the side which does not have the axle nut. If it did the wheel would not fit. You can take this to the bank or continue to be stubborn and keep on asking others to check their wheels. I'm out of here...

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Geee, excuse me for asking for more than one guy on the internet's opinion when I have one guy on the internet saying clutch

https://wristtwisters.com/naked-bikes...-question.html

backed up with a FSM photo to his statement vs one different guy on the internet saying something else. Not to mention I typed my 1st reply before I saw your first reply & I edited it to say "both" posts above.

What some have in stubbornness others have in lack of tact I guess.

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i don't care if 20 guys were saying clutch side .............. mistermike said throttle side... and mistermike is ALWAYS correct...

on top of that when i took the front wheel off my 919 the collared side went on the throttle side.... and it will not go together any other way *(it won't fit up the other way)



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I'd love to help on this one, but I live in New Zealand and my Hornet is a right-hand-drive model. Obviously my front end is set up a bit differently than your left-hand-drive ones .......

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I'd love to help on this one, but I live in New Zealand and my Hornet is a right-hand-drive model. Obviously my front end is set up a bit differently than your left-hand-drive ones .......
Smart Ass............ LOL

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WTF is a FSM?

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WTF is a FSM?
Factory Service Manual........................

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I'd love to help on this one, but I live in New Zealand and my Hornet is a right-hand-drive model. Obviously my front end is set up a bit differently than your left-hand-drive ones .......
Right-hand-drive one huh? Sounds just like mine, but then again I get right & left confused.

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