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post #1 of 13 Old 08-03-2020, 08:15 PM Thread Starter
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919 Custom Gauge Faces

I posted something about this on one of the 919 facebook groups, but I feel like I should post it here too for posterity. I just picked up a 919 earlier this summer. I've been enjoying it with the exception of a few small annoyances, one being the speedometer. The stock speedo reads about 10% too fast, which you can tell if you put your face right up against the cluster and squint really hard. It's better than nothing, but not great.

I decided instead of installing a speedo healer that would throw off the odometer, I'd kill two birds with one stone by designing gauge faces with a speedometer arc that's scaled back along with an easier to read layout. Removing the OE faces wasn't difficult, and scanning them into the computer at 600 dpi gave me plenty of resolution to work with.




I'm still not sure how I'm going to have them made. I already stripped the face off the speedometer plate and I wanted to go riding last weekend, so printed a quick mock-up to make sure the overlay fit and the numbers were placed correctly.



I'm going to need a more opaque black layer for the finished product, but the light diffusion across the white parts looked ok. I verified by GPS that it reads about 2 mph fast across the board, which is a big improvement in accuracy at 70+ mph. I'm thinking maybe I'll try a vinyl overlay for the black part or maybe reverse printing on transparency sheets.

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Same here and for that reason i would be interested in these, assuming i could get the cluster apart...

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Same here and for that reason i would be interested in these, assuming i could get the cluster apart...
Getting the gauge cluster apart was easy. The trickiest part for me was realigning the needles after reinstalling the faces. I used a separate tachometer to verify idle speed at 1200 rpm and tried to put the needle just before the halfway point between 1 and 2. You don't have to take the temp needle off (I did it anyway) to get the gauge face out, but mine sits halfway between C and H when the fan kicks on. I have no idea how I would have lined up the speedo needle if my gauge didn't do the sweep test when it powers on. 170mph on the original equates to 155mph, so I made sure the needle swept up to about where 155mph would be.

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I posted something about this on one of the 919 facebook groups, but I feel like I should post it here too for posterity. I just picked up a 919 earlier this summer. I've been enjoying it with the exception of a few small annoyances, one being the speedometer. The stock speedo reads about 10% too fast, which you can tell if you put your face right up against the cluster and squint really hard. It's better than nothing, but not great.

I decided instead of installing a speedo healer that would throw off the odometer, I'd kill two birds with one stone by designing gauge faces with a speedometer arc that's scaled back along with an easier to read layout. Removing the OE faces wasn't difficult, and scanning them into the computer at 600 dpi gave me plenty of resolution to work with.




I'm still not sure how I'm going to have them made. I already stripped the face off the speedometer plate and I wanted to go riding last weekend, so printed a quick mock-up to make sure the overlay fit and the numbers were placed correctly.



I'm going to need a more opaque black layer for the finished product, but the light diffusion across the white parts looked ok. I verified by GPS that it reads about 2 mph fast across the board, which is a big improvement in accuracy at 70+ mph. I'm thinking maybe I'll try a vinyl overlay for the black part or maybe reverse printing on transparency sheets.
I would definitely be in for a speedometer face if you get them made. I would prefer to have all of the speed numbers, if possible. Still in to buy a set either way.

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Getting the gauge cluster apart was easy. The trickiest part for me was realigning the needles after reinstalling the faces. I used a separate tachometer to verify idle speed at 1200 rpm and tried to put the needle just before the halfway point between 1 and 2. You don't have to take the temp needle off (I did it anyway) to get the gauge face out, but mine sits halfway between C and H when the fan kicks on. I have no idea how I would have lined up the speedo needle if my gauge didn't do the sweep test when it powers on. 170mph on the original equates to 155mph, so I made sure the needle swept up to about where 155mph would be.
uuugh losing will to do this.......
Doesn't the tach needle just hang at zero when off? does the newly printed version not line up at zero with the needle?

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uuugh losing will to do this.......
I'm right there with ya, man. In hindsight I would be more inclined to just deal with it, but there's no going back now.

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Doesn't the tach needle just hang at zero when off? does the newly printed version not line up at zero with the needle?

Sort of, yes. The needle rests on a pin which keeps it from dropping all the way to its actual zero point. Even though it SAYS zero when its resting on the pin, the actual zero is slightly below the pin. On the speedometer you could probably measure where the actual zero point is from the angle and then put the needle in there and rotate it conter clockwise all the way back around.


I should probably add...Honda updated the gauge cluster once or twice midway through production of the 919 and have no idea how the earlier internal mechanisms differ from the later version. Mine is from a 2007. I'm guessing the electromechanical bit that drives the needles is pretty similar, but I'm not 100% on that. Maybe someone else could confirm.

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This is a great idea why has no one thought to do this before? I would totally be down for a set if you start making them.

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Will let you know how these work out. $50 shipped.
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Will let you know how these work out. $50 shipped.

From what I've seen on their website, they look like they should be decent quality. Doesn't solve the scaling problem, but it's a nice clean layout. I am looking forward to seeing what they look like installed.

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Will let you know how these work out. $50 shipped.
That looks like a direct copy of the OEM face as far as number placement goes. Right?

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