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919 17/44 520 Conversion Kits

Due to consistent if not constant harassment by members here these are finally in stock.

Top of the line DID ERV3 520 Gold Chain with AFAM Sprockets

You will not find a better 520 chain on the market. I use or have used these ERV3 520 chains on my RC51, GSXR1000 K5, both my current 1000RR's and the Duc's all the way up to the 1098R's. As long as you keep it clean you won't have any issues with it not wearing as long and in my experience longer than 530 chains

Along with it are quality AFAM sprockets.

$194 plus shipping is the current price for the steel rear kit (08/19/16)


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Being a daily commuter, would you recommend I stay with stock size and gearing or convert? The price is the same.

I pulled on the back on my chain last night and can see about 1/16th to 1/8th inch gap between the chain and the bottom of the sprocket. I think it's time to start thinking about replacement.

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Being a daily commuter, would you recommend I stay with stock size and gearing or convert? The price is the same.

I pulled on the back on my chain last night and can see about 1/16th to 1/8th inch gap between the chain and the bottom of the sprocket. I think it's time to start thinking about replacement.
Yankin' your own chain?

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I am the one that came up with the 17T mod and then altered it further with the 44T on the rear. I simply think this is the best possible combination for the 919 for all the advantages if gives you.

Less buzzy & lower revs at freeway speeds.

Better Mileage

Corrects the inherent error in the OEM speedo sensor.

And it works pretty darn good for romping on it out in the twisties too as you can shift less & use more of the linear torque the 919 engine provides. Yes you lose a little acceleration, but if you are a good rider you will learn that the secret to the 919 is more about trusting the front and using a combination of corner speed and the smooth torque curve to pull you out of the turns. If you roll too slowly into the turns and then try to gas it on the way out from low revs the other bikes will stomp you into the ground on pure acceleration regardless of what gearing you have on the bike...

I also feel the 17/44 combo offers slightly less compression braking from the engine as well so you get less rear wheel hop when banging multiple downshifts, less wear on the tire. I also noticed I can ride the wheelies out a lot longer between shifts too

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Yankin' your own chain?

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Not that it really matters, but I whole-heartedly agree with LDH! I took his advice a few years ago and am running the 17-44t (530 chain) setup and Love it, it's the perfect gearing for this bike for all the reasons LDH stated. Really don't have anything extra to add, just agreeing....and wishing I had the money to do this 520 conversion...





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How about 520 versus 530? Will the 530 be a little more resilient to poor conditions? I clean, lube, and adjust it every couple weeks during warmer weather.

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If you aren't into proper chain maintenance then there are plenty of cheaper, lower grade chains you can buy RK, EK, Tsubaki etc... Some of them are so cheap they could even be considered disposable. Then again some of them cost as much or more as higher quality chains too so....

At any rate I am offering a very high end product at the best price I can. It is intended as a performance mod and if used & maintained properly will provide anyone with superior performance & longevity.
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Is it any good for 100ftlbs of torque?

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Is it any good for 100ftlbs of torque?

That is starting to push the limits of the ERV3 520.

If I had to pick a 520 chain up to the task of 100 ft/lbs I would go with the DID 520ZVM-X. I mean if any 520 chain can handle it that one would. of course they are also more expensive... They are also available in 525 & 530 sizes

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The reason for moving to 520 is to reduce the rotating mass correct?

I got a 15 tooth 530 sprocket on the way... cus everyone has to try it at least once and due to the fact the twisties i play on are so tight your rarely out of first... but i have always like the idea of a 17/44

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The reason for moving to 520 is to reduce the rotating mass correct?

Correct. That is usually in the neighborhood of 4lbs when compared to an OEM 530 set-up


Also be advised that if you only have a couple thousand miles on a chain or less you can pretty much add in new sprockets at will, but if you have 10,000 miles on a chain set & only install one new piece of the set (front sprocket only, rear sprocket only or just a new chain) that all the pieces will have greatly accelerated wear from that point on.

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How much for just the chain? I did the 520 conversion already but have a piece of crap RK chain. Boy they went downhill!

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$135 plus shipping on the DID ERV3 520

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Thank You LDH!! For giving better customer service...AND...Better prices than the competition!!!





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I'd like to do this, but $225 is a bit out of my range. Is there a cheaper chain that I could purchase while still considering it an upgrade? College and nice, fun parts usually don't coincide for me.

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I like to drag race my bike. I currently run a 17/45 and a 16/45. Is it possible to get this with the 16 and 17 tooth countershaft sproket? The 16/45 setup pulls the wheel so hard my 60ft times aren't great. The 44 may be the compromise I'm looking for. I weight 215lbs and my best time is an 11.2 with the 17/45. Thanks

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I like to drag race my bike. I currently run a 17/45 and a 16/45. Is it possible to get this with the 16 and 17 tooth countershaft sproket? The 16/45 setup pulls the wheel so hard my 60ft times aren't great. The 44 may be the compromise I'm looking for. I weight 215lbs and my best time is an 11.2 with the 17/45. Thanks
Your 16/45 translates to a 0.35555
Your 17/45 translates to a 0.37777
It's about a 6 % spread.
A 16/44 will give you 0.3636 which is about in the middle.
A 17/47 will give you about the same as a 16/44.

A 17 front increases the radius of the front chain wrap, which is good from a chain contact and stress point of view.
Bigger sprockets front and back to net the same ratio, means more chain length which means more mass to be accelerated.
But bigger sprockets move the mass out further from the centre of rotation, thus increasing the amount of 4th Moment of Inertia to overcome. This is effectively a multiple of weight. It's harder to spin it up because of the larger radius.
Part of your problem may be inadequate antisquat, be it shock eye to eye length (too short), spring rate (too soft) , or compression force (too low) related.

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...and due to the fact the twisties i play on are so tight your rarely out of first...
What twisties are you playing on nd4spdbh?

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LDH, I like the idea of the "rideability" gain the gearing change offers from your description, my 919 has just over 1k miles. Will the 17/44 work with the existing chain without having to add or remove any links? what sprockets would you recomend? What would the sprockets cost from you? Thanks in advance. (I'm new to changing gearing, I always rode and didn't think about it)

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What twisties are you playing on nd4spdbh?
well first, second mainly, VERY VERY VERY rarely 3rd.

Play up in the Santa Monica Mountians, Decker Canyon, Mulholland (the snake), Tuna canyon, latigo... they all are amazingly fun and twisty Any of the roads here

Got home yesterday and had a nice 15 tooth sprocket sittin there for me, ill see how i like it, to be smooth i like to play in second, but would like a lil more low end out of it so this might work good.

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I've been running the 17/44 setup since 6/06 - about 18k miles - Daily Driver as well as weekend west-wisconsin twisties - As LDH says
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May I ask his Lordship, do you ship to europe ? - and by any chance, do you know the cost of shipping ?

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I ship internationally almost every day.

Looking at about $47 in shipping costs for a 530 chain kit & only slightly cheaper for a 520 kit & that is via USPS Priority Mail

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Just chiming in because I just upgraded my chain and sprockets to the 520 17/44 and it is a nice combo. I've put a few hundred miles on the new set up and it is as LDH claims... bit better mileage, a bit less buzzy, and good all around feel though the gears. I got just at 20K out of the stock set up and I have to say this definitely feels better. Could be that my stock was old and worn... but I'm enjoying the new set up.

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Is it possible to get a 45 tooth 520 steel rear sprocket?

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cause aluminum is soft? Im guessing? thats whats kept me away, at least on my street bikes.

and fastback, get up on the bars you can wrestle the 9er down and what color is that? i dig it, chienese red?

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cause aluminum is soft? Im guessing? thats whats kept me away, at least on my street bikes.
That's exactly why. Steel will last twice as long. Possible to get a 45 in aluminum LDH?

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I'm sure I can get a 45 in aluminum...

You guys realize that we use hard anodized aluminum on full on racebikes including our 200rwhp BMW S1000RR right? I have aluminum sprockets on all my track bikes which include 2 1000RR's, a GSXR K5 & my old RC51 as well all of which put down a lot more horsepower & get more abuse than the 919 sprocket would ever dream of taking...

I get anywhere from 7000-9000 miles out of a $60 rear sprocket and that is pure track abuse wheelies and full throttle all the way to redline in each gear lap after lap after lap. I fail to see anyone's qualm with using an aluminum rear sprocket period. Just buy a reputable brand & keep up with a minimal amount of proper chain maintenance...

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I get anywhere from 7000-9000 miles out of a $60 rear sprocket and that is pure track abuse wheelies and full throttle all the way to redline in each gear lap after lap after lap.
Well worth the price I say. I wish I hadn't just replaced my chain and sprockets recently or I would upgrade now.

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I'm sure I can get a 45 in aluminum...

You guys realize that we use hard anodized aluminum on full on racebikes including our 200rwhp BMW S1000RR right? I have aluminum sprockets on all my track bikes which include 2 1000RR's, a GSXR K5 & my old RC51 as well all of which put down a lot more horsepower & get more abuse than the 919 sprocket would ever dream of taking...

I get anywhere from 7000-9000 miles out of a $60 rear sprocket and that is pure track abuse wheelies and full throttle all the way to redline in each gear lap after lap after lap. I fail to see anyone's qualm with using an aluminum rear sprocket period. Just buy a reputable brand & keep up with a minimal amount of proper chain maintenance...
I know you can get an AFAM 520 rear 45 in aluminum because I have one on my bike.

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what color is the chain? goldish or black? got any pictures of the actual sprockets and chain (unboxed) thanks!

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Guys I sell the highest quality performance parts available in the world. We do not skimp on quality or performance just so we can accommodate a color request. If you are going to let things like the color of the chain or the sprockets make your decision for you then I am not the vendor you want to do business with... Color choices are for paint jobs & Marchesini wheels if you want a colored chain then I suggest pink and maybe it will last you 3000 miles Otherwise buy from me and know that you have the best possible chain & sprocket kit you can buy on your bike.
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I've been running a hard anodized aluminum rear sprocket on the 919 with awesome results.

Now....back in the day....tried an aluminum Vortex rear....total shit.


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I just want a nice looking 530 44T BLACK (steel or good quality alum) sprocket for mine...

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How many miles can one expect from a oem set up?
I have about 12,000 on mine?

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