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post #2 of 34 Old 08-21-2017, 06:29 PM
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Idk about the fitment but they do look nice. The wattage is 105 with a max output of 5500 lumens. That comes to 52 lumens per watt. Isn't that low? I somewhat remember on one of my vehicles that I bought a HID kit for had higher than that. I want to say they were all in the 80 lumen per watt range. Maybe different with LED. Don't know. Turn signal seems funky having it built in. I know we wouldn't hook that up but still, even for a vehicle that would be stupid in my opinion.

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Most 7" light are going to fit into the bucket. The issue is usually the LED Headlight will have nothing to attached the headlight ring to. The other issue with this light is that it is 105W which is a lot more power draw than the OEM light which is 60W on high beam.

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Most 7" light are going to fit into the bucket. The issue is usually the LED Headlight will have nothing to attached the headlight ring to. The other issue with this light is that it is 105W which is a lot more power draw than the OEM light which is 60W on high beam.
Isn't 105 Watts unusually high for a headlamp unit?
Unless the thing is designed to be as strong as stadium lighting?

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Just a quick one.
Would a led headlight unit with 75w on high beam be considered too much for the 919? Or is it best to use units at or below 60w?

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Was there something wrong with the other LED that was proven to work by someone here? I don't remember who, but someone here did a full LED write up and linked to the product on Amazon.

I think it was more the $50, but they should all be coming down in price about now.

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Jeggers65. I found one the same but only 75w. And if you don't hook up the running lights only draws 65w total on high beam. The back is the same as yours so fitment should be real easy. Just use longer bolts and spacers for the two that hold the headlight bucket on. M8 about 75mm long. Washers as well. The spacers go inside the bucket. Stop it from deforming. The bolts screw directly into holes on rear of led light housing.
I haven't done this yet, but did see a video online. I've got all the bits coming and will give it a go.

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Got my led headlight installed. 75w on high beam. I don't have the running led's connected, so 65w on high beam. Used a cheap aftermarket bucket and rim since I wanted my stock headlight intact. It's held by two m8 75mm bolts on either side with 47mm long aluminium spacers inside. Had a choice of two holes on light unit to mount into. I chose the forward hole. It made the unit more stable but sat it in the rim more. It's very solid. The wiring that was all in the stock bucket got shuffled around under the tank, pair valve system cavity and the new bucket. I used some rubber weather strip inside the rim.
It's very bright. But the light is quite blue, painful to look at directly. And the beam shape looks like a blob. Probably only to be used at night if you have a death wish! On high beam it is ridiculously bright. Looks cool, brighter than stock, everyone will see you coming but you'll probably piss them off. Everthing is still intact so will take half hour to go back to stock.
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Got my led headlight installed. 75w on high beam. I don't have the running led's connected, so 65w on high beam. Used a cheap aftermarket bucket and rim since I wanted my stock headlight intact. It's held by two m8 75mm bolts on either side with 47mm long aluminium spacers inside. Had a choice of two holes on light unit to mount into. I chose the forward hole. It made the unit more stable but sat it in the rim more. It's very solid. The wiring that was all in the stock bucket got shuffled around under the tank, pair valve system cavity and the new bucket. I used some rubber weather strip inside the rim.
It's very bright. But the light is quite blue, painful to look at directly. And the beam shape looks like a blob. Probably only to be used at night if you have a death wish! On high beam it is ridiculously bright. Looks cool, brighter than stock, everyone will see you coming but you'll probably piss them off. Everthing is still intact so will take half hour to go back to stock.
Wait, are you saying it's a failure?

You say " And the beam shape looks like a blob. Probably only to be used at night if you have a death wish! "

So you wouldn't use it at night... that means you need to find another?

What brand was this?

You're also saying it's 75W only with the markers? So it's a 3 pc set, headlight + markers? Are they all built into one unit or are the marker off to the side?

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It's this one. Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/401383097761
Don't get me wrong it's no failure, just different to stock. I also don't like riding at night here with the stock light. The roads here at night are infested with wildlife. Mostly wallabies and wombats. These animals quickly move from the dark roadside straight into traffic when disturbed. They are nocturnal. So I don't ride at night much.
The led light fitted well. The led running lights I haven't figured out. They are the 5w strip at the top and bottom. The Australian honda doesn't have a running light system. They work off a battery but not tapped into low beam or license plate light. Go figure. I'll work it out eventually. They would be useful as they throw a more diffused light. The other 13 led's are directional.
The beam is very bright but mostly forward, a bit dim at the sides. When I said blob I meant no real cut off at the top of the beam pattern. I had to aim it quite low since I worry about oncoming drivers comfort. The light is bright and very blue. A white/blue. Not 'warm' at all. I would not like it shone in my eyes.
Went for a ride this evening. Rural and town. Went slow, many roo's about no traffic. Road lit up well and for a long way on high beam. For me and where I ride it's better than stock. I like it and I'll stick with it for now.

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That's a shame. Looks so good too.

My mom has the exact same dog.

What you got goin on with the protruding black dildos jutting out the sides of your pony maker? Cruising pegs or long frame sliders? Or is that where you stand when you do your stoppies/endos? You're a boss


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Black dildo's. Friggin funny. That's it I'm taking em off.
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Actually they were supposed to be frame sliders but now they are just black dildo's. Thanks : ) Was lookin at some crash bars, might get em now.

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This guy is a bit more expensive but I have the previous model and it is very good. https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...iABEgI7Z_D_BwE

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Yep. Probably will get a JW speaker or truck-lite eventually. Fun playing with this one.

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Its on amazon new for way less than Revzilla....
I plan on doing this light in the near future.

JW Speaker 8700 Evolution 2 - 7" Round LED Headlight - Black

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That's a good price. Amazon not in Australia yet. Soon.

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I always forget about the gap... But someone here could buy it, and send it to you and still be cheaper than the $390 revzilla price. =)

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So just to sum this up. This LED isn't as good as the other LED, yet it has about the max wattage that the bike can handle without a mod.

This LED doesn't work well for night riding.

Q. is this a step up from those $50 HID lights?

What's the difference in the two LEDs, I see one has two the other has many LEDs inside of it. Is it just that one has a lens and used a single or double LED vs a bunch of LEDs?

I wonder why you couldn't take one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CZ6QDDU...a-306169363883

and put it in a headlight bucket. I've seen flashlights made from them.

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I'm happy with the light. It's growing on me. Another ride last night. The light is an improvement over the stock light. High beam is its redeeming feature. Very bright and for a long way. Again sides of beam a little dim. Low beam has a blurry cut off and the beam colour and intensity might be uncomfortable for oncoming traffic?
High beam pattern is also very directional and tends to leave road when tilting. I also worry about how visible light is when seen from the side during the day. I'm disappointed that I can't get the running led's to work. They worked when I bench tested but not on bike. U.S model bikes have a running light system so should be OK. There is a single power supply wire for the running led's but no separate ground wire.
For $50 it's ok and an improvement over stock light for me. I like the look of it on my street bike.
KarlJay, I can't compare to any other led setup since I haven't tried any thing else. I just saw a video of this type of led headlight being installed into a honda. I was really intrested in the different mounting method of this light over other units. It uses the two side bucket mount bolts. It's very solid. But spacers have to be cut to fit tight or bucket will deform.
I also thought the look fit my bike scheme.
All these led headlights vary greatly in the number of led's used. The individual led strength can vary as well of the focus lens over the led.
I dont think you could jam a heap of led's into a bucket without some sort of focus lens. That's that bubble over the led's you see.
I wonder if these led truck-lites would work on our bikes. They are massively reduced in price. I have messaged seller about H4 plug/wires.
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/142399579000
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I got my led headlight running lights to work, by buying another led unit. Turns out the first light was a crappy chinese copy of a chinese light.
First light never worked right. Has only a rubber grommet sealing the plug lead. Only two moisture vents. 9 led's per running light. The lens cover is glued on.
Second light worked right. Has compression fitting sealing plug lead. Has three moisture vents. 12 led's per running light. Lens cover is removable and has a rubber o-ring seal.
I was sus on the first light straight away as I've seen these style lights retro fitted to motorcycle on videos and they worked fine.
I got a refund on the first light and seller said keep it just leave no feedback.
The second light I got from a local seller who assured me that the driving lights would remain on when low/high lights are on. He was right. I have them wired up to the low beam. They go off when high beam is on. I could get them on all the time by running off the license plate lights. But I already had a tap in the low beam wire.
When the weather is better I'll give the lights a run at night.
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Do you have a link to the new and improved light your using? I do hope this is better than the last.

I was going to do the jw speaker 8700 evo j2 which is a dual burn light with halo, but I cant find a seller who will sell just one as they come in a set for $800. Maybe I can find a willing party to go in halves with me.

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If you're looking for another option, I bought this headlight:

https://www.eaglelites.com/collectio...on-motorcycles

I had a friend 3D print some brackets for me that perfectly integrate with the stock headlight ring. There are two through holes on the back of the headlight that run from left to right, one on the top, one on the bottom. I used a bolt to secure the printed bracket to the back of the headlight and then some longer screws to affix the brackets to the holes in the stock ring. I'm having him print me up some extra brackets, just in case, and I'll also get him to send me the design file so that anyone can make them. I know there's a couple people with 3D printers floating around here.

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Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/112373453020
That's the link to the "better" led headlight.
Night time shot down my driveway. Better than stock. Probably could lift beam a bit but I keeped it a bit low for oncoming traffi comfort.
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Here's a single JW speaker 8700 evo 2.
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/142428112197

I should also mention the previous chinese led headlight I got discounted to $60.

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Not sure if this link works. Here goes.

With DOT E-mark Motorcycle 7" Round Headlight Lamp H4 For Honda CB500 CB1300 Hornet 250 Hornet 600 Hornet 900 VTEC VTR250
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It's interesting. Seems to be a chinese copy of the jw speaker 8700 evo 2. But noticed it's setup to bolt straight into our headlight buckets. Just like stock. No mod to the headlight or bucket. Plug and play. I'm thinking on it.

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Thanks for the link, however the "JW speaker 8700 evo J2" is different than just the J or 2 series. J2 has a halo, and dual burn high beams, meaning both circular lights, halo, and side lights are all on at the same time when using high beam.

The J is plug-n-play for jeeps with running light halo. The evo 2 is no halo, but has h4 connector and better beam pattern. The only issue with the J and 2 is that neither use high and low beam at the same time.

Im picky and want the J2 cuz i want the most output and a running light halo. Unfortunately, being picky means I will have to pay more LOL

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Thanks for the heads up Nealio919. I did not know that about the jw speaker lights.

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Look at this on eBay 7inch 75W Round Cree LED Headlight H4 H13 DRL for Jeep Wrangler CJ/TJ/LJ/JK | eBay
That's the link to the "better" led headlight.
Night time shot down my driveway. Better than stock. Probably could lift beam a bit but I keeped it a bit low for oncoming traffi comfort.
This really does looks better than stock! Good work!!!

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So I decided to install the JW Speaker Evolution J with half halo and "anti-flicker" circuit built in, part #0550771 (made specific for jeep). If anyone decided to ever go this route please take note the back side housing and mounting holes are different than the evo 2. I also cut off the J13 jeep plug and put on my own blade terminals to match the H4 female plug on the bike. That being said the brackets I made are different than what others have posted. I will try and upload more pics of the beam pattern, and brackets later. I just finished the install last night but this mornings ride was VERY well lit!
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I'm diggin that light. And good on you for going a different way. Looking forward to mounting instructions as I might go this way when my chinese led headlight shits itself!
Looks awesome.
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