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post #1 of 19 Old 02-28-2009, 12:05 PM Thread Starter
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3.25 inch oil filter on 919

I am new 2002 919 owner, and this is my first post, so I really felt the need to start out with an oil/filter question just so everone can know fer sure that I am a newbie.

I intend to use the bike for track days, but mostly street.


Been riding cruisers and the Goldwing for a while, and just haven't felt the need to spend a lot of bucks on changing the oil, so I usually use the Walmart Supertech ST7317 on the Honda's. This is the longer 3.25 inch filter which should help with filtering and flow. However, on the 919, the headers come down in front of the filter, not close enough to prevent using the longer filter, but maybe close enough to cause some heat problems with the filter.
Is it ok to use the longer filters, or should I stay with the shorter filter. The Supertech filter is fine for the other bikes I use it on, but is it good enough to use on the high reving sport engines.


Now for the oil question, whats your thoughts on using
Rotella T synthetic 5W-40, or the regular Rotella 15w-40. I really like to use oils that fit the manufacturers recomendations, which is 10w-40 on the 919.

the only 10w-40 I can get around here that I like is Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40, and its $10 a quart. Might need this for the track though.
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in my very humble opinion.. i use either the honda stock filter or the k&n oil filter.. (not a place to save a dollar)... either of these you cannot go wrong...

as for oil i am no help...i am running amsoil and i love it..

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One piece of cardboard from a non-OEM filter coming unglued and getting stuck in a cam journal will end your day real quick. Plus the idea of an out of spec bypass spring rate keeps me paying a few dollars more for OEM filters


Cheap rubber seals versus silicone, glued endcaps versus captured and additional pleats in the filter media show where the OEM filters are superior to most if not all aftermarket brands

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I use the Supertech Filters on my 919 because I'm a cheap bastid. I was using the ST6607 when I had the stock headers, but I use the ST7317 now that I have 900RR Headers because there is more room. I also use Rotella 15w-40. So far so good.

Here's some info from a guy that cut open alot of filters.



I don't use K&N because I hear they are made by Fram (just kidding)

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I used Rotella T Synthetic 5w-40 one time (for about 200 miles) and did not like how my bike shifted. LDH is right, the OEM filter is very good but I have been using the Purolator "PureOne" filters with great results and they are about 1/2 the price of OEM. As for the PureOne's quality, they're at least as good as OEM if not a little better due to more filter media and a better anti-drainback valve.

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This is the one I've been running, figure it holds a tad bit more oil and it's name brand.
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Purolator PureOne pl14512 is the best oil filter for the 919. It filters a smaller particle than the others and will not fall apart inside. You can get them at Pep boys.

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Thanks for the info, after thinking about it, its best that I go with the oem or high quality aftermarket. I'll go to the parts store Monday and see what they got. Probably get the Mobile One oil too.

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Purolator PureOne pl14512 is the best oil filter for the 919. It filters a smaller particle than the others and will not fall apart inside. You can get them at Pep boys.
I'm sure you meant PL14612 as a PL14512 does not exist. You are right about the other stuff though.

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I'm sure you meant PL14612 as a PL14512 does not exist. You are right about the other stuff though.
Yep your right. Somehow on the way across the room the number changed.

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I use the Supertech Filters on my 919 because I'm a cheap bastid. I was using the ST6607 when I had the stock headers, but I use the ST7317 now that I have 900RR Headers because there is more room. I also use Rotella 15w-40. So far so good.

Here's some info from a guy that cut open alot of filters.
marylandmike and I think alike. I used the Walmart ST6607 when I had the stock exhaust system installed. Now that I have a CBR900RR header with the extra spacer between the two inside exhaust headers, I use the S7317. I use Walmart 10/40 oil at 3000 mile intervals. 35,000 miles and going strong. I think more frequent oil changes, even with non-OEM stuff, is better than OEM at 6000 miles. I actually "do" the oil changes at 3000 miles because it doesn't cost very much. I don't rationalize that I'll wait because it costs so much!

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Purolator PureOne pl14512 is the best oil filter for the 919. It filters a smaller particle than the others and will not fall apart inside. You can get them at Pep boys.
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I'm sure you meant PL14612 as a PL14512 does not exist. You are right about the other stuff though.
That's the same filter I use. I just paint it black and clear coat it before I put it on the bike.

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I use the Pure One 14610 which is 3.25" long. Fits the 919 just fine



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i use either the honda stock filter or the k&n oil filter.. (not a place to save a dollar).

as for oil i am no help...i am running amsoil and i love it..
I always use the KN oil filter that is made for the 900rr, because it has a little higher capacity. I also am using amsoil, and love it. Glad you are happy with my recommendation barton.

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i ran amsoil for 6000 miles (2 changes) shifts good but i wish they had 10w30 instead of just 10w40, i seem to get a little better fuel mileage with honda full sythetic 10w30, i have to turn the idle down running honda oil over amsoil it is running so much smoother.

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I've almost always used the cheap-o honda gn4. But this past weekend I put in the silkolene pro comp 4 10w-40 and it seems to have made a difference. Shifts like butter and revs a little more freely are some of the first impressions I had. I will report back if anybody likes.

Oh, I used the hiflofiltro hf-204 filter when I did the oil change. A couple of bucks cheaper than oem and just as good (if not better).

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coming from a Nighthawk CB 750, I am sold on Walmart's Supertech 6607 -7317 as they are made by Champion, ubiquitous, and cheap. Comparable to Purolator in quality at a third the cost. See California Scientific oil filter research.

another vote for Shell Rotella T 15w-40 diesel. Farm n Fleet in 2.5 gallon containers 'bout $35.00. On sale now 2x about $63.00.

Only a bit disappointed that while Walmart is all over Mexico, they did not carry the Supertech oil filter line. Plenty of motorcycle specific oils available in 20w-40 weights. Bike engine/tranny ran fine.

For what it is worth, Guatelmala City Shell Stations carry Shell Rotella "Motorcycle" specific oil. Good to know just in case, A [email protected]#$% of a ride to get to.
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