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post #1 of 12 Old 11-14-2006, 05:55 PM Thread Starter
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2006 Honda 919 Shifting

Hey all. I noticed on my 919 that sometimes it does not shift into second gear when I get on it (5-7000 RPMs). Does anyone else have this problem? I swear I am using the same amount of force to shift. Really annoying becuase I accidentally rev the engine to 8-9000 RPMs. It will then shift after I let the RPMs settle. Suggestions?

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post #2 of 12 Old 11-14-2006, 06:06 PM
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When I first got my 919, I did the same thing at one particular spot on my ride home every day. I would make a left from a yield, run up the RPM's, and shift while coming out of the turn. Never failed, I didn't pull up far enough and the bike wouldn't shift all the way into second. I switch to a GP setup, and I make sure use solid, clean movements every time I shift.

You could also try to move the shifter down to force yourself to lower your toe a little. That makes it easier to make sure you have pulled all the way up on the shifter.

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post #3 of 12 Old 11-14-2006, 07:26 PM
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Probably 99% of failed shifts are due to rider error. I'm not dissing on ya, Joe, them's just the facts. Preload the shifter and make sure to give it a good, solid engagement and you'll never experience a failed shift. The transmission is just as Honda bulletproof as the engine, so even the missed shifts and bouncing off the limiter aren't likely to cause any permanent damage.

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I have some shifting variations also with my 06 919. Usually from 4-5 I have to keep pressure applied to the shift lever to coax it into gear. It does not happen all of the time, I do notice it more on hard accel. Other's here have mentioned similar shifting on 919's, and after time/miles they claim it gets better. Syn. oil helped my shifting quite a bit.. make sure the chain is adjusted properly.. good luck..

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Two things... What's a GP setup, and what is 'preloading' the shifter?

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GP setup - inverted shifting. It's what you do when you don't want to let anyone else ride your bike

preload - get your boot under the shifter right before you shift and apply a small amount of pressure. The idea is to prepare to shift just before you shift. Somebody (probably ratdog) had a better description of this somewhere.

I've found that preloading ensures that you will never miss a gear and your engagements are much smoother.

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I like the idea of moving the shifter down a degree or two. Maybe I'll try that this weekend if I get time.

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I inverted the shifter on a bike years ago, but I didn't realize it was called that. Learn somethin' new every day.

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I like the idea of moving the shifter down a degree or two. Maybe I'll try that this weekend if I get time.
I adjusted my lever down (near the limit) and it improved my shifts alot. I also like that I don't have to pick my boot up so high to downshift.

Some advice, the locknuts on the shifter rod both loosen the same way, this makes them a bitch to get loose.

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GP setup - inverted shifting. It's what you do when you don't want to let anyone else ride your bike
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post #11 of 12 Old 11-15-2006, 04:08 AM
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Agree with bock - preload helps a lot. A good solid boot helps too.

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post #12 of 12 Old 11-15-2006, 04:18 AM
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heads-up...

Did we not just have this discussion last week?
It's amazing how our search feature works. Go to Advanced Search then type shifting as the key word.

This relpy is not meant to slam anyone- it is to make you aware that many topics have already been discussed in depth.

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