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post #1 of 27 Old 12-28-2009, 12:44 PM Thread Starter
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04 suspension swap

i've read alot of info on the 04 suspension swap such as what parts to use, etc etc. but what i cannot find (or maybe i overlooked it) is if the front forks from an 04 is a direct bolt in on an 02?

the rear shock from my understanding would be a little more difficult?

i've really got to do something about my front end at the very least. it turns great, feels safe. i just hate the lack of feedback that im getting (got so used to the ninja) that it makes me second guess myself, the bike, and my overall riding ability

note: i dont want to hear about no f4i swap or anything like that. i dont have the neccessary coin to put down for that kind of thing, nor do i have a garage or any place to work on the bike (just a carport that is exposed to the elements). so i need things that are bolt on.

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hey mike, yup i've read that thread. didnt answer my question which is why i posted it. i'm asking if the post forks will bolt up to the pre triple trees. i'm hoping i can just swap the entire fork tubes without gutting em.

also, there is no info on the rear shock.

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They directly bolt on.

But I'm going to mension F4i anway. Cuz its a direct bolt on too. And cheap. And way more adjustable.

No advise for cheap shocks. But there are plenty of threads on that topic.

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F4i and 04 forks both bolt right up. As mentioned above if you're gonna do it do the f4i forks they're gonna be about the same price but its a better fork, the only different thing is you'll have to get a f4i front fender not a big deal. Once you do that you'll probally be fine with the rear. I picked up a set of f4i forks on craigslist for 75 bucks then sold my 03 9er forks for 100. Deals are out there be patient and look around, doing it once with better parts will keep you from doing it twice.

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hey mike, yup i've read that thread. didnt answer my question which is why i posted it. i'm asking if the post forks will bolt up to the pre triple trees. i'm hoping i can just swap the entire fork tubes without gutting em.

also, there is no info on the rear shock.
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thanks guys! exactly what i needed to hear. i thought the f4i forks required some modification so i had immediately dismissed that. price was also a factor. i made an offer of 50 bucks per fork plus shipping to someone. if i can get f4i forks for the same price as 04 forks.... it's something i'll seriously consider!

mike, i think the issue is that yes theres info, but theres also too much info. i did feel a little overwhlemed and got the impression some things required a different triple tree (was that for 929 forks?), etc. great info though guys. thanks!!! on the hunt for f4i forks as well as 04 forks if i can get either one dirt cheap.

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Pvster, you must not like money. You're a copy and paste away from a free set of forks.

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Pvster, you must not like money. You're a copy and paste away from a free set of forks.
now i'm feeling really dumb.... i'm trying my hardest to not spend much money on my bike since its my commuter and i'm a poor college student lol. i dont like money only because i never seem to have enough of it

clearly i'm missing something here because i've looked in the classified and i dont see any mention of forks for free or anything of the like.

i'm confused, lol

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hey mistermike, been lookin around, are you referring to this thread?

https://wristtwisters.com/naked-bikes...nterested.html

thats the only thread i'm finding relating to fork swaps lol.

i noticed you have a link for a removable center stand. i would love to get my hands on that! the link just directed me to the main wristwisters forum page. do you still have the member's info?

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hey mistermike, been lookin around, are you referring to this thread?

https://wristtwisters.com/naked-bikes...nterested.html

thats the only thread i'm finding relating to fork swaps lol.

i noticed you have a link for a removable center stand. i would love to get my hands on that! the link just directed me to the main wristwisters forum page. do you still have the member's info?
In the 919 Helpful topics the first link is Mr.Mike's 919. Scroll down the page for you answer.

Once again 919 helpful Topics: select Removable Centerstand for servicing the 919 + Where to buy it. Scroll down the page for you answer.

A collage student should be able to figure out these simple tasks.

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thats the problem... too simple

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thanks mike. apparently my brain was too fried from finals and cannot do the simplest of tasks. big thumbs up.

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will any cbr600 forks fit the 919 or do they have to be f4i forks also will the inverted forks work with the 919 calipers or would I need the calipers also. I am looking for a direct replacement for my 02 forks. I have found some inverted black forks from an 07 cbr600rr and want to know if they are a direct swap (or even fit) and would i need the calipers also

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F4i is the only direct replacement (except for fender). Wheels/rotors are interchangable also. you do not need a new wheel. You just need F4i forks and fender.

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are there any f41 inverted forks and if there are would you need the calipers or would the 919 calipers bolt on to the inverted forks. The 07 forks i found said cbr600 f4i and they are inverted forks or do you think they might from an 07 cbr600rr

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will any cbr600 forks fit the 919 or do they have to be f4i forks also will the inverted forks work with the 919 calipers or would I need the calipers also. I am looking for a direct replacement for my 02 forks. I have found some inverted black forks from an 07 cbr600rr and want to know if they are a direct swap (or even fit) and would i need the calipers also
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are there any f41 inverted forks and if there are would you need the calipers or would the 919 calipers bolt on to the inverted forks
only the standard f4i forks no inverted forks are bolt ons

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what about 2003 R6 forks?

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what about 2003 R6 forks?
that's a good question(i think) i don't know squat about the r6.

or is that a trick question??????

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that's a good question(i think) i don't know squat about the r6.

or is that a trick question??????
it's not a trick question 03 r6 are 43mm and are fully adjustable. are they taller maybe?

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Hmm. 43mm is 43mm. Should slide right in. Only issue is that I'm sure you would need the fender, wheel, and brakes (probably should include master cylinder) from the R6 as well. The f4i one only needs the fork legs and fender.

If they are longer then they can just be installed higher in the clamps. Shorter would be the only concern if you have access to a full set up. Same should go for any bike with 43mm legs. Pretty sure VFRs have 43mm tubes as well.

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it's not a trick question 03 R are 43mm and are fully adjustable. are they taller maybe?
they might be a tad longer they have 4.7 in of travel vs. 4.3 for the 919.
that aside i would say(just a guess) that the calibers would also have to come from a R, along with the front wheel and axle.you'd also need to know the centerline spacing(width) of the forks as on the R.
example= say the R fork c/l is 10 in and the 919 is 9 inches the forks would be squeezed by the triples then spread by the R axle/spacers/wheel.

the spacing between the caliber/rotor/caliber mounting point would have to match without rubbing axially and radially.

from what i understand, the f4i is a straight bolt-on all you need is the forks and the fender.

please don't let me deter you from looking into the R6 option farther, i'm all for interesting swaps.

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I guess r6 is an option if you want 19" front wheel

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I guess r6 is an option if you want 19" front wheel

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he also mentions "custom wheel spacers". i'm not sure if it's because the 19" front wheel needed them or the forks are a different width or both.
but it still does'nt address the length. if the forks are aprox. 3/8 longer they could be slid up as touring919 said but just because they have 3/8 more travel they could be much longer.

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Wheel spacing. Duh. Can't believe I didn't think of that. If its the same you would be okay. If its wider than the 919 you could do it but yould have to make custom wheel spacers. If its more narow then your likely SOL. In short. More trouble than what it is worth.

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Wheel spacing. Duh. Can't believe I didn't think of that. If its the same you would be okay. If its wider than the 919 you could do it but yould have to make custom wheel spacers. If its more narow then your likely SOL. In short. More trouble than what it is worth.
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