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Has anyone done timed 0-60 or 0-100 with their stock 9'ers?

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I've hit 142mph with stock gearing and in 4th gear on a staight near my home
so your friend is already wrong on that account alone.
BTW- What does your buddy ride? The 919 is a super all-around and proven machine that does everything well and is a great value to boot. There will always be someone faster with bikes like the B-King and the VMax with all that stock horsepower out there but they sure didn't pay what I did for my bike from the Honda dealer. On top of all that, yesterday, I filled up and figured out my mileage and it averaged 48mpg. Pretty damned good if I do say so myself, and I do!

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define "stock" ...not too many of true stock bikes in here. not for long anyhow. i believe motorcyclist tested them at 2.9 seconds 0-60 in a naked bike shootout 5 years ago. 6? mine, with stock engine internally (header and pcIII), does the eighth mile right AT 7 seconds flat at 100 mph. ie, 0-100 in 7. nitrous gives 10 more mph in the eighth.

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I've hit 142mph with stock gearing and in 4th gear on a staight near my home
so your friend is already wrong on that account alone.
BTW- What does your buddy ride? The 919 is a super all-around and proven machine that does everything well and is a great value to boot. There will always be someone faster with bikes like the B-King and the VMax with all that stock horsepower out there but they sure didn't pay what I did for my bike from the Honda dealer. On top of all that, yesterday, I filled up and figured out my mileage and it averaged 48mpg. Pretty damned good if I do say so myself, and I do!
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As we all know, our beloved 919's speedo is very optimistic. About 10% optimistic. The June 2002 issue of MCN found the actual top speed of their test 919 to be 142.6 mph with a 0-60 of 3.22 seconds.
Hmmm... lets see, you are probably going by your speedo which is optimistic on every bike especially near the top. If the 10% stated in the quote is correct, then you are looking at a true speed of 128? Close ration transmission, there is not much more to go after that.

As it states in the quote, you can look up MCN June 2002 edition. I bet they actually have radar guns to tell you exact speed. MCN has no reason to lie, so I think I will go with that.

Also is it a link to another thread in this forum that answers the question asked.

So when you get done patting yourself on the back for owning you incredibly vanilla bike, can you please let me know who you are actually talking to? Because I did not see anyone insult your beloved 919 in this thread.

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define "stock" ...not too many of true stock bikes in here. not for long anyhow. i believe motorcyclist tested them at 2.9 seconds 0-60 in a naked bike shootout 5 years ago. 6? mine, with stock engine internally (header and pcIII), does the eighth mile right AT 7 seconds flat at 100 mph. ie, 0-100 in 7. nitrous gives 10 more mph in the eighth.
That's faster than I care to go!

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baby, once you go that QUICKLY (not "fast") there's no turning back. after nitrous runs, a 10.7 @ 123 (my best "stock" time) feels like a Buell Blast.

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I've hit 142mph with stock gearing and in 4th gear on a staight near my home
I really hate to tell you this, but 4th gear with stock gearing at 9,500 rpm computes to 124.9 mph.

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So when you get done patting yourself on the back for owning you incredibly vanilla bike
Let's talk vanilla.
Random House Dictionary of the English Language definition of vanilla:
4: adj. Ordinary, commonplace, devoid of distinguishing features.

On my commute to work on the 405 freeway:
Daily: Oh, look -- another sportbike. That makes 10 so far. I wonder what it is.

About 3 times in a year:
Wow! A 919!

Piuma road on any given Sunday:
About 100 inline four sportbikes. They all blend together into an amorphous faired mass.

Piuma road last year sometime:
Wow! A 919!

Which do you think more closely matches the definition of "Vanilla"?

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one that does everything well, and nothing great.

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plain and without any extras or adornments; "the most common type of bond is the straight or plain vanilla bond"; "the basic car is known as the vanilla version"

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I drive a civic, it is a wonderful car. Vanilla as hell!

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really? i don't find my civic vanilla at all. more like phish food w/ psylocibin sprinkled on top.
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I laugh every time i see that car.

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Hmmm... lets see, you are probably going by your speedo which is optimistic on every bike especially near the top. .
Are you telling me that my RC wont do 205 ??

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Are you telling me that my RC wont do 205 ??
Only if you take the exhaust off and run it with header only!

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[QUOTE][/Which do you think more closely matches the definition of "Vanilla"? QUOTE] Killing wiht logic LUV IT.

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Rob nails it again.

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I really hate to tell you this, but 4th gear with stock gearing at 9,500 rpm computes to 124.9 mph.



Let's talk vanilla.
Random House Dictionary of the English Language definition of vanilla:
4: adj. Ordinary, commonplace, devoid of distinguishing features.

On my commute to work on the 405 freeway:
Daily: Oh, look -- another sportbike. That makes 10 so far. I wonder what it is.

About 3 times in a year:
Wow! A 919!

Piuma road on any given Sunday:
About 100 inline four sportbikes. They all blend together into an amorphous faired mass.

Piuma road last year sometime:
Wow! A 919!

Which do you think more closely matches the definition of "Vanilla"?

Rob
Excellent point here Rob! I would say plain vanilla is anything that is very common place.

A Honda Civic is very good on gas mileage compared to the average car. Does that make it not plain vanilla? No!

I go on group rides with as many a 50 to 60 bikes some times and they are almost all typical sport bikes. Every time I do this people are all drawn to my bike asking what it is, what size motor, how fast is it, blah blah blah.

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You guys kill me.

Call it what what you want. Vanilla is not a bad word and Rob's post does not even remotely change my mind.

Using his definition, I say look at standards over the past 30 years. Similar riding position, similar purpose, similar everything. Everything new standards have is passed down from other bikes.

So over the past 30 years, sport bikes have been cutting edge and pushing the performance envelope of brakes, suspension, and power. Fly by wire, variable velocity stacks, pro link suspension, etc... OK, nothing Vanilla there.

Now lets look at standards... Hand me down parts with usually 5 year or older technology. Not breaking any new ground and not defining future bikes...

Hmmm.... Which one sounds more vanilla?

SO, I am standing by my statement that the 919 is Vanilla (just like my civic). It is not a bacd thing. It is an all arounder - and that is exactly what some people are looking for. If you look at your bike and say "this is the best bike for me" then i say congratulations. If you look at your bike and think it is the greatest bike built, then I think you are dilusional.

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Now lets look at standards... Hand me down parts with usually 5 year or older technology. Not breaking any new ground and not defining future bikes...
Not this one:

http://www.aprilia.com/modelli/road/...ry.asp?id=1652

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The 919 is definitely not the best bike ever made. But which one is? This will be debated until the end of time with no clear answer. Lot's of people think the GSXR is the best bike out there. I think it's just the most common and they almost all look alike. That's what I call vanilla, unless they dramatically modify them. Has it made a better race bike than the 919? Yes, but that doesn't make all the others out on the street less vanilla.

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Not old technology, but borrowed technology from the Mille. Aprilia at least offers up there sport bike in a second package with a civil seating position.

And no, I would not call the Toano Vanilla.

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Not old technology, but borrowed technology from the Mille. Aprilia at least offers up there sport bike in a second package with a civil seating position.

And no, I would not call the Toano Vanilla.
Instead of borrowed, I like to think they offer a great powerplant in a sturdy frame with two beautiful options for different riding positions.

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The 919 is definitely not the best bike ever made. But which one is? This will be debated until the end of time with no clear answer. Lot's of people think the GSXR is the best bike out there. I think it's just the most common and they almost all look alike. That's what I call vanilla, unless they dramatically modify them. Has it made a better race bike than the 919? Yes, but that doesn't make all the others out on the street less vanilla.
Common and Vanilla do not mean the same thing.

The GSXr is an exciting ride as are all liter sport bikes. They are common and I think they are common for all the wrong reasons (owner selection reasons, not the bikes fault). I do not see 150+ hp as vanilla, i think it is exciting as hell. New sport bikes have pushed the envelope very far... and I just can't wrap my head around calling that vanilla.

So there are thousands of them out there. So they may not serve any particular useful purpose, but that just makes them common.

When you have no sharp edges, you have no real defining quality about your bike... you get Vanilla. Everyone says the 919 does everything well. I have never disagreed. I think it is a utilitarian bike. It is a bike I respect as a commuter and a weekend bike.

I do not look at the 919 and have my imagination run.
It is a compromise. To me, it is Vanilla.

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I think it is a utilitarian bike. It is a bike I respect as a commuter.
+1

Exactly why I got the 919. In my opinion, it's the best commuter around.

It makes a decent novice to intermediate level track bike also, but not sure how hard you can "push" the frame. An SV-650 would be a better track bike.


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Sportbikes are sportbikes and not made to be as comfy as standards. many standards are detuned sportbike motors without the advantage of downdraft and compression.
Sportbikes are comfy in corners but let them follow the standards down the highway and it is an Oh Oh after about 50 to 75 miles. I don't think there is a perfect bike so we just get what suites our needs OR we have multiple bikes for different needs.
I think ZRX's are one of the best standards yet I still try to improve my two BUT I ride wifey's 919 (with her permission now) and wonder why Kawi could not have mede the REX lighter like the 919 is. It makes me feel like there needs to be another 919 in the gayrage but I haven't given up on the REX's yet.
I really want to ride the new Bandit. Little low on HP but up on TQ AND feels like it was made for me sitting on it.
Later == Bobby

I would also like to take the 919 out on the back roads to see what it is like to not be tired at the end of the day like when I have to manhandle the REX.

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all this talk about vanilla is making me hungry. i might make a milkshake

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Vanilla yuk.Hows bout some white rice had flavor to your taste.That more defines the place of a 919.


I like Rice, love my 919.

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Vanilla yuk.Hows bout some white rice had flavor to your taste.That more defines the place of a 919.


I like Rice, love my 919.
Nice!
I like that analogy more!

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Vanilla, incidentally, activates over 230 different taste receptors - it is the most complex single flavor know to humans (look it up). Vanillin (artificial vanilla flavour) has only 2. So yeah, my bike is vanilla - it takes a conoisseur to recognize vanilla; the kids are all drinking energy drinks and being impressed by 0.04 cents worth of artificial flavour. (So sportbikes = energy drinks; loud graphics, make you go fast, serve no real purpose except to separate people from their money in exchange for the always-unfulfilled promise of increased personal desirability.)

Seriously, though, I consider the 919 a good choice for commuting, occasional touring, backroad carving, two-up grocery getting, etc. A CBR is an excellent choice for a racetrack... so why do people think they make good street bikes? Seems sorta like firing up the bandsaw to open a blister pack - it makes a lot of noise and gets the job done fast, but is it really the right tool for the job?

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f4I's are like bungholes. Everyone has one.
There is a reason for that though... They are GREAT bikes! Comfortable (as far as sport bikes are concerned), fast enough that you can keep up with almost anyone, super reliable and easy to ride.

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I tried the full plastic sportbike thing. Not to my liking. I actually prefer my chassis to flex a bit and my suspension a little on the mushy side. Gives me feedback.

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Sportbikes are sportbikes and not made to be as comfy as standards. many standards are detuned sportbike motors without the advantage of downdraft and compression.
Sportbikes are comfy in corners but let them follow the standards down the highway and it is an Oh Oh after about 50 to 75 miles. I don't think there is a perfect bike so we just get what suites our needs OR we have multiple bikes for different needs.
I think ZRX's are one of the best standards yet I still try to improve my two BUT I ride wifey's 919 (with her permission now) and wonder why Kawi could not have mede the REX lighter like the 919 is. It makes me feel like there needs to be another 919 in the gayrage but I haven't given up on the REX's yet.
I really want to ride the new Bandit. Little low on HP but up on TQ AND feels like it was made for me sitting on it.
Later == Bobby


I would also like to take the 919 out on the back roads to see what it is like to not be tired at the end of the day like when I have to manhandle the REX.
I rode my old z rex 1100 from Wisconsin to Deals Gap and back. I don't find my 919 to be any more or less comfy. If I bought a new Naked today it would be the Bandit.

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