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Surprised by lack of wear

I was changing out the front tire on my ZX10R and thought to check out the brake pads. At roughly 15,000 miles, I thought the wear would be appreciable, and judged the remainder material to be about 25%. When I picked up some brand new EBC's, I was surprised to find the thickness of the material to be only marginally greater than my stock pads? What's going on here?. Do these EBC's run kinda thin new? I use some pretty good brake force as a beneral rule, but I am shocked to find the OEM's pad thickness to be somewhat close to replacement EBC's. Any comments?


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post #2 of 23 Old 06-22-2006, 11:22 AM
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Why did you go with EBC?
Past experience shows that OEM pads are usually the "hot setup."
Almost forgot, be careful with the type of aftermarket pads you buy, some of them do a number on the rotors.

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EBC = poo

OEM = neato


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I am very happy with my EBC's. No fade ever. They were just thicker than my stock ones at 5,000 miles. Not sure what the deal is with yours being thin.

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I don't think 15k miles is a lot for stock pads. I just had my calipers off the other week and looked at my pads. I still have the original OEM pads on and they have atleast 50% left on the wear indicator. If you still ride on the streets I would stick to the OEM pads. Not every pad stops the same in the rain.

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Too late. I'm gonna give the 'poo' a try.
And what do you know about Kawasaki OEM, ragamuffin?

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Unless your chang'in rotors... or go'in rac'in... I was told to stick with OEM on pads am much as pissible.

As for the thickness... I cant tell ya... Its possible you havent really worn that much off and they are still pretty good? Is there wear indicators as someone mentioned above?

Why did you decide to change them anyway? Are they starting to go?

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pads am much as pissible. Who talks like this??????????

Mid, I looked at the wear and thought "hmmm, looks like I might use a new set of stoppers" I get the idea, based on previous bikes that it's time to replace as I thought I was pretty hard on my brakes. Now I am formulating the idea that I may have shot my wallet wad a bit prematurely, however knowing that my sexual partner in this endeavor, the local Kawasaki Parts woman, was completely satisfied by my performance.
I am now in a hydralic-mechano quandry with brand new EBC Brake components hanging on a hook on the side of my Craftsman Rool-Away.

Ragamuffin.....

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I'm so helpful.
Hey shiteater, have you even tried EBC brake pads??

I use EBC brake pads on my track bike and they're great, I would never go back to OEM brake pads. OEM brake pads especially on the track can't stop worth CRAP but the EBC brake pads..........first time I used them on the track bike, if I had a "bag" I would have definitely "bagged" myself first corner I took when I grabbed the front brake!

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Sporty stepped up, and Sporty stepped on!!!

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Too late. I'm gonna give the 'poo' a try.
And what do you know about Kawasaki OEM, ragamuffin?
ragamuffin Now that's funny.

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Geez, I need to pay attention to these threads more after I crap on them. I have used EBC on my last bike and they sucked with great vigor and vim.

And true, I don't know anything about Kawi OEM's, they probalby suck. :P

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Time to reserect this thread.............

The pads are still funtioning well. I don't understand it. However, I traded the EBC's back to the dealer in favor of the OEM's. (That little snit ragdoll was right even though I hate to admit it. EBC's I put on the 650 sorta suck!)

Now, the chain finally said syonara. Seems the seals work hardened and now have these little threads sticking up between a bunch of the plates. Made a call to Dan Kyle and ordered the DID ERV in 525 and an extra master link just in case. I told Dan about the life of my chain and sprokets, he said the reason they went so far was that they were well maintained, never over tightenend and well lubed so pay attention kids! You know how fastidiously I maintain the wind-up toy's rubber band.

I cant wait to get the chain and new sprokets on!!!!!!! Smooth baby!!!

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You did get the rivet style master link, and not a "c" clip right?

As for brake pads, since I must have missed the original thread, I went from OEM to Vesrah after doing multiple trackdays, and talking shop with the Advanced group riders, and Control Riders. As you were, I was jaded, and thought EBC HH were the best available. Never even gave thought to Vesrah until I got deep into track days, and found out how much difference there is between the pads, and the Mfr's.

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do you ride that thing all day? how's the comfort?

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Rivet link all the way, maaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnn. Just thinking that if I am not happy with the crimp on it, I can grind it off and do it again without waiting for a new one to be delivered. Well worth the extra 9 bucks my friends.

Only took a couple long day rides. It is sort of comfortable. I'd like a gel seat for 600 mile days. I feel that the sheer power makes up for calous ass, you know.

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I am soooooooooooooo bummed out.

I got me a new DID ERV 525, two new sprockets, two replacement front rotors, two sets of new OEM front pads, oil/filter and no damn time to do any maintenance. I just don't have the time to fix up my bad girl. The o-rings are all work hardened in the old chain and the links look like Phylis Dillers hair. What is a mother to do????????????

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I am soooooooooooooo bummed out.

I got me a new DID ERV 525, two new sprockets, two replacement front rotors, two sets of new OEM front pads, oil/filter and no damn time to do any maintenance. I just don't have the time to fix up my bad girl. The o-rings are all work hardened in the old chain and the links look like Phylis Dillers hair. What is a mother to do????????????
You are home all day but yet, don't have time to do this??? Wanking to much can get you kill dontcha know... bah, who am I kidding!

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You are home all day but yet, don't have time to do this??? Wanking to much can get you kill dontcha know... bah, who am I kidding!
I may not have a permanent job, but that doesn't mean I'm not assholes and elbows on this consultant/contract stuff. I don't have time to wipe more than once!!!!!

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I put EBC HH pads on the Z and I absolutely hate them. I also switched to Galfer lines at the same time and I felt more comfortable on the stock pads. The EBCs sound like freakin sandpaper rubbin my rotors. I can pull the lever as hard as I want and it still doesn't feel like it wants to stop. The lines work great and the brakes have been bled properly, these pads just don't want to grip.

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I got some EBC's on the back. It's ok, but after my experience with EBC's on my KLR650, I went with stock OEM goodies up front.

Hate to admit that Ragdoll was right about anything but he pretty much said it when he said EBC's were 'POO'

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