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RC51 Fuel pump? no start!

my RC has just a shade over 22k miles and this morning it would not start. turn and turn and turn, but no start... kill switch on, enrichment knob out because it's cold, charged the battery...
Later, i realized that the pump isn't cycling when i turn the key on. indicating either a pump or a relay, if i am thinking right? i don't have a manual for it

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There is a fuse under the seat for it.
Also, mine shorted out. There was a small nic in the wiring harness (thanks Honda) and on occasison it would short and blow the fuse. Took several times sitting on the side of the road to finally get motivated enough to inspect the harness that closely.

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I didn't experience this but yes...Check fuses under seat...If it's blown, inspect harness for sure


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If you ride the RC to my house, I will inspect it for free.

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That's just your RC way of telling you its not ready for Spring yet.

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i don't have a manual for it
Get your free manual here..its under VTR1000 in case you didn't know:

http://www.carlsalter.com/motorcycle-manuals.asp

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thanks guys! i really wasn't wanting to spend the $525 for the new one from Honda, and they said the pump module used to be available for it for 215... hoping hoping hoping... now, TO THE GARAGE!

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thanks guys! i really wasn't wanting to spend the $525 for the new one from Honda, and they said the pump module used to be available for it for 215... hoping hoping hoping... now, TO THE GARAGE!
A bit late chiming up on this, so could you enlighten me as to what the pump module is? If they are referring to the PGM-Fi control and it is actually defective then it's the first time I've ever heard of a malf not caused by having some idiot drill four holes in it trying to do a fender eliminator: it's really that unusual.

Here's a wiring diagram for an '01: http://cbrworld.net/files/54/images_...try258007.aspx Just click on the download button.

Here's the fuel pump troubleshooting procedure for a 919: https://www.wristtwisters.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=14216 It's around post #8 I think.

It's essentially the same as the RC 51 which doesn't seem to have the pink initialization wire from the ignition switch, and I can't guarantee all the color codes are the same. Pay particular attention to the Brown / Black wire at the fuel pump relay -- it's the wire that picks up the relay to run the pump and should go to ground (below 2 volts) for a couple seconds when the key is turned on, when the starter button is pressed, and when the engine is running.

That should give you a start at correcting the problem without buying a control unit.

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by module i mean just the PUMP itself, none of the gadgetry around it... but i'll do that! now, if i could figure out which is the fuel pump relay...i couldn't get the manual to download last night and i tried 2x... maybe tonight it will work...

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finally! after chasing wires, it turned out to be a simple connection at the relay. pulled it out of the connector and put on a new end. its running right now! woot woot! must make whoolies!

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finally! after chasing wires, it turned out to be a simple connection at the relay. pulled it out of the connector and put on a new end. its running right now! woot woot! must make whoolies!

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thanks for all the heads up and references guys. your the mostest bestest EVER! time to go play!

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