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Old 04-05-2012, 08:55 AM Thread Starter
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Integrated Tail Light

Any one have any experience with motodynamics integrated tail light?

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Old 04-05-2012, 11:43 AM
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no, but we had these custom made and now produced. Best intergrated tail light I've ever seen


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Old 04-05-2012, 11:46 AM
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no, but we had these custom made and now produced. Best intergrated tail light I've ever seen


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Old 04-05-2012, 12:11 PM
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:47 PM
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I haven't used or seen any others for our bike so I may be biased, but I have the customLED one as well and it is really nice. I bought the ebay one(clear alternatives i think) with the smoked lens just to use the lens. The board didnt look nearly as nice as the customled one, but again i didnt actually see it function. The custom led light is still very bright, even through the tinted lens.

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Old 04-05-2012, 01:19 PM
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Old 04-05-2012, 02:35 PM
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I bought the CA one just to get the clear lens. I powered it up too. The custom LED one kicked it's ass. just look at this


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nuff said

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Old 04-05-2012, 02:57 PM
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I bought the CA one just to get the clear lens. I powered it up too. The custom LED one kicked it's ass. just look at this


Custom LED Integrated Tail Lights vs. Clear Alternatives Tail Light - YouTube

nuff said
I don't care what anyone says, this video is skewed. That said, I ran the CA for almost 2 seasons with no problems, it is very visible. I installed a Custom LED unit this year and it is brighter.

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Old 04-05-2012, 03:15 PM
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I don't care what anyone says, this video is skewed. That said, I ran the CA for almost 2 seasons with no problems, it is very visible. I installed a Custom LED unit this year and it is brighter.
skewed or not, i disagree with the CA being "visible". yes, its visible but only in specific situations and at specific angles. i personally found the CA unit to be not as bright as stock bulbs. my wife (girlfriend at the time) constantly complained that it was hard to see my taillight beyond 50 feet in daylight, wasn't much better at night, and she could hardly see anything at an angle. this was further confirmed by the constant amount of people i had coming right up to my ass in broad daylight even if i modulated the brake. to make matters worse, the CA unit didn't put out enough power for the light to reflect off the back of speed limit signs beyond 75 feet in the dark. and that's just the brake lights. the turn signal lights were worse. in short, the led bulbs are just too directional without enough overall power.

the CUSTOMLED unit is worlds apart when it comes to "visibility" and the CA unit is complete trash in my opinion. this is simply MY opinion, and its an opinion based on desiring my lights to be seen.

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$15 and about an hour of work and I pulled the cheap aftermarket signals that were on my bike when I bought it and integrate them with the brake light. Seems pretty bright to me.

I wonder if I can buy brighter standard bulbs for the taillight without melting anything...

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$15 and about an hour of work and I pulled the cheap aftermarket signals that were on my bike when I bought it and integrate them with the brake light. Seems pretty bright to me.

I wonder if I can buy brighter standard bulbs for the taillight without melting anything...
stock brake light? the oem light is bright enough. but i wasn't satisfied with combining the brake/turn signal lights together as the lights tended to bleed together for the turn signals.

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Old 04-05-2012, 03:51 PM
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$15 and about an hour of work and I pulled the cheap aftermarket signals that were on my bike when I bought it and integrate them with the brake light. Seems pretty bright to me.

I wonder if I can buy brighter standard bulbs for the taillight without melting anything...

I seem to remember PIAA or HELLA selling "superbright" bulbs, but retain the same wattage. thats the extent of my knowledge on them tho.. in other words, i dont know if they really ARE superbright, or if its just marketing.

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stock brake light? the oem light is bright enough. but i wasn't satisfied with combining the brake/turn signal lights together as the lights tended to bleed together for the turn signals.
Yea stock. And yes, it's pretty bright. But I figure, if I can make it brighter for another $5 in bulbs, that's $20 for integrated turn signals and an extra $105 I can spend somewhere else.

I do that 10 times and I can buy my Ohlins rear shock. : )

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I seem to remember PIAA or HELLA selling "superbright" bulbs, but retain the same wattage. thats the extent of my knowledge on them tho.. in other words, i dont know if they really ARE superbright, or if its just marketing.
Cool. I'll have to check that out.

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Old 04-05-2012, 07:51 PM
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just expect the life expectancy of the brighter bulb to decrease



not with led's

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Old 04-05-2012, 08:27 PM
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Yea stock. And yes, it's pretty bright. But I figure, if I can make it brighter for another $5 in bulbs, that's $20 for integrated turn signals and an extra $105 I can spend somewhere else.

I do that 10 times and I can buy my Ohlins rear shock. : )
just be careful, one side tends to bleed over to the other side during the turn signal phase with the brake light on and makes it look like the light is just flickering or harder to see. that was my primary complaint with integrating the stock oem lights.

sure you save money in the short run, but is it really worth it? only YOU can decide that. personally, you're better off leaving the oem light as brake lights and adding turn signals for better visibility/less confusion. if you want to integrate them, i say do it right, and do it with the best unit out there.

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So I had a try at installing these but I wasn't successful in getting the indicators to work.

When I turn the ignition on the red and amber LEDs blink.
Brakes work fine, but the left/right indicator don't

I cut the wire from my turn signals to use the existing adapter to plug it in directly.

In g00g's video he mentions that he had to splice from the main harness, before the part that connects to the old indicators. Would I have to do the same thing?
I'm guessing there's a resitor in the plugs or smthg that's too strong for the leds?

Any tips are much appreciated.

Kind of sad cause I won't be able to ride until I sort this out... :'(

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It should work. There's no resistor on the plugs and you'll even get the fast blink because of this.

Check your connections.

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hmm ok...
I'll solder them together then...The little plastic connectors looked a bit iffy

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It should work. There's no resistor on the plugs and you'll even get the fast blink because of this.

Check your connections.

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Old 04-19-2016, 07:44 PM
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unfortunately even with the solder it didn't work... I did notice that there is the faintest blinking by the red leds when the blinker is on. But nothing amber...

I guess i'll have to contact custom LED to see what they suggest...

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Old 04-20-2016, 05:04 AM
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It seems to be wired properly.

Make sure you have current going to the Blue and Orange wires (blinkers) you could try to make the tail light blink by sending current from the running light wire to the turn signal as a test

You can try to factory reset the tail light through the programming mode.

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Just a thought, and I might be way off base. Did the bike have LED turn signals before? Could there be a different signal relay installed that adds resistance to the circuit?

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Old 04-20-2016, 08:41 PM
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I've taken some measurements and sent them off to the guy who's been helping me out.
Why do you think the turn values are so low? The blinkers worked perfectly fine before. (and they were 100% stock)

Running light = blue + black = approx 11.2v
Brake light = Brake pressed = yellow + black =11.1V

Left turn on:
Orange/brown + black from led board = 0
Orange/brown + green from left turn = 5.4v

Right turn on:
Blue/green + black from led board = 0
Blue/green + green from right turn = 5.4v

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I tried the suggestion to hook up one of the turn signals to the running light and they work fine.

As the measurements are showing the turn signals aren't getting enough voltage.

I've also measured at the main harness plugs to see if the problem is there and it is indeed.

I'm guessing this doesn't have anything to do with the OEM Relay? my front indicators work fine and I'm guessing theres only one relay for both front and back.

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I've taken some measurements and sent them off to the guy who's been helping me out.
Why do you think the turn values are so low? The blinkers worked perfectly fine before. (and they were 100% stock)

Running light = blue + black = approx 11.2v
Brake light = Brake pressed = yellow + black =11.1V

Left turn on:
Orange/brown + black from led board = 0
Orange/brown + green from left turn = 5.4v

Right turn on:
Blue/green + black from led board = 0
Blue/green + green from right turn = 5.4v

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Just for fun, check the voltage at one of the front indicators. You've got me curious.

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I've taken some measurements and sent them off to the guy who's been helping me out.
Why do you think the turn values are so low? The blinkers worked perfectly fine before. (and they were 100% stock)

Running light = blue + black = approx 11.2v
Brake light = Brake pressed = yellow + black =11.1V

Left turn on:
Orange/brown + black from led board = 0
Orange/brown + green from left turn = 5.4v

Right turn on:
Blue/green + black from led board = 0
Blue/green + green from right turn = 5.4v
is it a solid 5.4 V or intermittant with the flashing? it could just be that your meter isn't fast enough to keep up.

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Old 04-21-2016, 07:29 AM
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Yup it's a pretty solid 5.4V.

I'll investigate the front indicators to see the voltage value.



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is it a solid 5.4 V or intermittant with the flashing? it could just be that your meter isn't fast enough to keep up.

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I'm curious what the front values will be then... It shouldn't be a constant voltage, because then obviously flashing won't happen... My next guess would be something wrong with your relay but you said your fronts work fine (although they should be blinking faster) so the relay is likely fine... Best suggestion I have at this point is to chase the wires further into the harness and find out where you're losing the power...

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Coming back to this, when I connected one of the turning signals to the running light, the amber LED was flashing by itself ie the running light is getting a constant stream of power but the amber led was flashing.

Now I'm guessing the power to the indicators is not constant right?

If it's not constant and the LED is expecting constant voltage, makes sense for the board to not detect the on and off voltage through the indicator lines.

Can somebody confirm that the power to the indicators are constant or not?

Even though I believe that the front ones do stay on like the running light and then get brighter. I'm not quite sure what the default behaviour is.

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is it a solid 5.4 V or intermittant with the flashing? it could just be that your meter isn't fast enough to keep up.

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Old 04-22-2016, 06:30 AM
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Coming back to this, when I connected one of the turning signals to the running light, the amber LED was flashing by itself ie the running light is getting a constant stream of power but the amber led was flashing.

Now I'm guessing the power to the indicators is not constant right?

If it's not constant and the LED is expecting constant voltage, makes sense for the board to not detect the on and off voltage through the indicator lines.

Can somebody confirm that the power to the indicators are constant or not?

Even though I believe that the front ones do stay on like the running light and then get brighter. I'm not quite sure what the default behaviour is.
The front ones act as running lights but the rears go from off to flashing. That's interesting that the Amber LED was flashing even with constant voltage... I'm not sure how that would happen.

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Old 04-23-2016, 11:46 AM
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build in function of the board :P
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The front ones act as running lights but the rears go from off to flashing. That's interesting that the Amber LED was flashing even with constant voltage... I'm not sure how that would happen.

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Old 04-25-2016, 05:40 AM
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but why would that be built in? In every system it would be connected to it will be getting intermittant voltage to cause the flashing... why would it flash when given a constant voltage? that doesn't make any sense

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Took the bike to the mechanic and he said the turn signal wires were wired the other way around... ie the green should've been connected to the respective led wires...And not they work...

Those instructions weren't very good then lol

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