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From 919 to a sport/super sport - suggestions

I'm thinking of buying a sport motorcycle to see what it's like to live with a sports bike. Over the next couple of years I'd like to try out the different styles of bikes to see what the motorcycling world has to offer, super sports, dual sports, touring cruisers etc.
I've owned the 919 for a year now, hopefully by the end of my exploration of all riding styles i'll be able to afford multiple bikes (919 included)


That being said, the next in line is a sports bike and here is where you guys come in. Any recommendations? 600 or 1000cc

Stick with Honda (cbr600rr) or go with something else? gsxr600 ?

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I recently went from a 2006 919 to a 2002 CBR954RR. I have grown very fond of the 954 over the last couple of months. It's been no trouble at all to come to grips with the power, the brake, or the handling after three years (and 18,000 miles) on a 919. The ride is also surprisingly nice, even with stiffer springs, and the riding position is honestly about what I had my 919 set at with Tharbars.

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I recently went from a 2006 919 to a 2002 CBR954RR. I have grown very fond of the 954 over the last couple of months. It's been no trouble at all to come to grips with the power, the brake, or the handling after three years (and 18,000 miles) on a 919. The ride is also surprisingly nice, even with stiffer springs, and the riding position is honestly about what I had my 919 set at with Tharbars.
I've oft wondered what a nakedified 954 would be like, and absolute blast I'm sure.
But alas, it must remain a hypothetical exploration given what's already in the garage, the basement, and back home.

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I've oft wondered what a nakedified 954 would be like, and absolute blast I'm sure.
But alas, it must remain a hypothetical exploration given what's already in the garage, the basement, and back home.
Are you referring the evergrowing pile of parts for the 919?

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I went from my first 919 to a 2007 cbr600rr. I was a bit underwhelmed at first because I was so used to having torque everywhere, but then I learned to adjust my riding, keep it in a lower gear, and rev higher on the CBR. The 600cc sportbike class has plenty of power (up top) and most of the bikes of this class will feel similar. The CBR and GSXR bikes tend to have the better ergonomics, so try sitting on a few to get a feel for the bike before committing to one. If the ergos work for you, then you really can't go wrong buying one of these bikes.

I haven't tried a literbike yet, but if I ever make another sportbike purchase, it would be in that category. A light weight and reliable super moto like the WR250X + a separate set of offroad tires/wheels would be a good way to get into the dual-sport world. You could also get one of the larger ADV bikes for your long distance travel / light offroad needs.

Keep the 919 if you can so that you can switch back and forth. It has a blend of performance, versatility, and silly low cost of ownership that is hard to beat. You're in the right mindset though. There are too many great motorcycles out there to limit yourself to just one brand or category.

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Dream wise, I would want a Factory RSV4 or an HP4 S1000rr.

Reality wise, an F4i sounds great. Recent one popped up on CL in my local area for $3000. Which is way too much for the condition of it but he is trying to get his money back from all the goodies he put on it. He'll face reality soon enough. Been posting it for about a week with no bites.

However, I think I want a Ninja 1000 or other Sport Touring bike in that class is what I'll move on to.

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Are you referring the evergrowing pile of parts for the 919?
That plus the stable of early CB750s and spares and stuff for those.
Then there's the GSXR750 track bike and its stuff, although the stuff is mostly takeoffs to make way for what went on instead.
I just wish I time for it all.........................

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The two single most important qualities I need in a comfortable motorcycle is:

#1 the tank has to be narrow. The 929 I had for a lot of years was a fabulous motorcycle. But being bent over with my knees spread, after a while will work on my hips. No amount of stretching did any good.

#2 I need legroom. My 07 CBR600RR was another great bike. Much narrower than the 929, I could last a lot longer but the peg to seat relationship was so short.

Super Duke. So narrow, you'd think your knees are going to touch. Lots of leg room. I can ride this thing a long time. My 599 is almost as good. The 390 Duke is pretty decent. I never was real happy with the 919. It's ok.

If you find that comfortable super sport, let me know. It may be out there.

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I've found my 1000rr to be ridiculously comfy. The rear sets are lowered aboot 3", stock bars and seat. A longer wheelbase also helps it ride like a limo, but the ergos are currently as good or better than my 919.

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I was in exactly the same thought process as you 18 months or more ago. I was so worried that I would miss my 919 to much and that it would be a big mistake to go sports. I bought a 2011 ZX10 and never looked back. I personally would only look at the 1000's, much easier to ride IMO (better torque).

Why only consider Honda? Ride a few bikes and see which one you like the most.

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I would recommend V setup, V2 or V4.
Tuono would be my advice if you want to stay naked. RC51 if you want to stay Honda and don't do long rides.

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Having owned bikes on both sides, I don't really comprehend the urge to own a full on sportbike for street use. I know it's not feasible for everyone to own two bikes, but my advice will always be to keep a naked for street use and a sportbike for hardcore back road carving or track days. If you can only have one bike, find a naked you can't live without instead of going full sport.

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What I could do is buy a grom for street use and then something crazy for the rest... I would prefer to go through all of the possibilities and then decide on a longterm solution. That way I will know exactly what's what.

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Having owned bikes on both sides, I don't really comprehend the urge to own a full on sportbike for street use. I know it's not feasible for everyone to own two bikes, but my advice will always be to keep a naked for street use and a sportbike for hardcore back road carving or track days. If you can only have one bike, find a naked you can't live without instead of going full sport.

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Having owned bikes on both sides, I don't really comprehend the urge to own a full on sportbike for street use. I know it's not feasible for everyone to own two bikes, but my advice will always be to keep a naked for street use and a sportbike for hardcore back road carving or track days. If you can only have one bike, find a naked you can't live without instead of going full sport.
I hear what you are saying.

Here's the why: some of us would like to experience more than one type of bike and as you said, its not always justifyable to have more than two bikes financially. Here in NZ for instance, it costs more than $500 a year just for registrion (road tax) on bikes over 599cc. So own two bikes over 599cc and its more than a $1000 a year, etc. This is excluding your insurance and WOF (warrant of fitness test - I think its changed to once a year for bikes over 5 years). Not to mention storage (not all of us have a double garage).

My 74 year old father still has and rides his 919, loves riding my ZX10 and does so at every chance he gets. Go figure. Its not about going 300km/h on public roads, its about the ride and also enjoying the bike you ride.

Most of us have no illusions about being Rossi when we go out for a ride, its about the smile it puts on your face, if that makes sense.

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I would also be interested in getting a cruiser type motorcycle. Anybody have any suggestions? First bike i ever rode was a Honda Shadow 125cc and it was pretty damn comfortable.

Can an admin change the title of this thread pretty please ?

FROM: From 919 to a sport/super sport - suggestions


TO: From 919 to a super sport / cruiser - suggestions

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If money was no issue and if I was leaning towards a cruizer style bike, I wouldn't mind a Ducati Diavel.

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Money is an issue. :P or else i'd have two in the garage :P but I don't


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If money was no issue and if I was leaning towards a cruizer style bike, I wouldn't mind a Ducati Diavel.

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Honda CTX. Fairly cheap and once you see it in person it looks real good.

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I assume you're talking about the 1300cc one

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Honda CTX. Fairly cheap and once you see it in person it looks real good.

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I did the opposite - went from sport to standard. Must say, I miss the plastic for the wind protection. Highway riding is much superior on a sport bike, and so is the handling (no flexy frame, better suspension, etc.). Also, the niner is kind of quick at lower speeds but I miss the kind of power that makes you go WOW. Not that I would use it that often, though... Anyways, when the opportunity arises, I will definitely get an open class sport bike again. CBR is a good choice for the excellent midrange power distribution (see LDH dyno curve for reference).

One thing, though - when you get stopped, you are more likely to get a ticket on a sport bike. I have no idea how I avoided a ticket yesterday (got stopped for passing an unmarked police car on the right on a busy highway - yeah, that was dumb) but I think the fact my bike is nondescript and quiet makes a difference.

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One thing, though - when you get stopped, you are more likely to get a ticket on a sport bike. I have no idea how I avoided a ticket yesterday (got stopped for passing an unmarked police car on the right on a busy highway - yeah, that was dumb) but I think the fact my bike is nondescript and quiet makes a difference.
I bet the police officer rode bikes.

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I would also be interested in getting a cruiser type motorcycle. TO: From 919 to a super sport / cruiser - suggestions
I not in the market for a cruiser, but I do look at them from time to time.

I like the diavel, but the range is supposed to be pretty bad.

The mean streak and the warriors are generic enough, but look like they are rideable and are quite cheap.

The new victories are nice and the new Polaris Indians hold a lot of promise.

My ideal cruiser would have a lot of lean angle, great brakes, mid controls, and a strong motor.

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On second thought I will probably never own a cruiser when a low mileage Kawasaki concours can be had for under $3k.

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I learned on a cruiser - a little Yamaha Virago 250. Was great around town, great to learn on, nice v-twin and looked like a bigger bike than it was.

Though it was a great learning bike, I don't think I would ever get a cruiser either, even a power cruiser. Just need something lighter and sportier.

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Street riding on a sport bike sucks, unless you're going 95-100%. I always had to go full leathers on sport bikes. I had a couple of 600rr's and an R6. Cbr had a more streetable motor.

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