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post #1 of 63 Old 10-26-2012, 08:11 AM Thread Starter
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WTB: Honda 919 or 599, in NYC

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I had an '02 919 for a couple years some time back. It was my first bike and I loved her, but was forced to sell her due to life craziness.

To make a long story short, I am on the market again for a new bike, but no matter how much I look around, I just can't find a bike that I like the look of as much as the 919.

I'm not a big guy - 5'8 and 160lbs, and I certainly don't need a 900cc bike, or even a 600cc bike. Hell, I just spent half a year on a 12hp, 125cc bike in SE Asia, and after a month or so it didn't feel that slow - I could even outpace Harley riders on (very) twisty roads.

Now, I know that the reasonable thing to do would be to buy a SV650. Sufficient power, widely available.. but motorcycling has never been about reasonable, and I just can't stand the look of most modern bikes, the SV included.

Didn't I promise to make this a short story? Oops.

Bike: Honda 919 or 599
Year: Don't care.
Color: not that important.
Budget: 2.5 - 3k.
Transport: I don't have a car, so can't get most places to check bikes out.

This guy is selling his for 2.8k:
2003 Honda CB900F

I've been lurking on this forum on and off for years, so I know you guys are awesome, and all feedback is welcome.

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post #2 of 63 Old 10-26-2012, 11:18 AM
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Welcome aboard. There was a black 919 being sold in Edgewater NJ recently and some others in LI. I used searchtempest.com to simultaneously look up all of the craigslists sites in the area when I was looking earlier this year. I'm sure you'll be able to find something within your budget since the season is coming to a close. Good luck.

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Thanks!

This one looks good

2005 HONDA CB919 LOW MILES!!!


but a bit over my budget. What would be a fair offer to make to this guy that would be low but not insulting?

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Between the 2003 and 2005, I'd go with the 2005 model. Very low miles also. You could try for $4K as a start since used helmets are not worth anything.

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The 2005 guy is willing to drop it to $3900, and it does look quite clean. Good price?

4,100 miles vs 30,000 makes a big difference?

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The 2005 guy is willing to drop it to $3900, and it does look quite clean. Good price?

4,100 miles vs 30,000 makes a big difference?
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I'd spring for the low miles - not necessarily because of any wear and tear on the engine, but more the bike. The more miles, the more it's been out in the elements and won't look quite as nice.

If the outside weren't an issue, then look to the one with the high mileage; ask if valves have been checked - that's about the only thing needing done at that mileage.

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I see what you guys mean about the wear on the body. That 2003 just looks all dinged up, even in the fuzzy cell phone pictures the guy mailed me.

Found this one this morning:

2002 Honda 919

Not as many miles as the other high mile one, looks MUCH cleaner, more stock parts (though I don't like the saddle).. and right next to my house.

Maybe I can use the extra 1k to buy a good rear shock. My old 919 felt like it wanted to toss my ass off the bike every time i hit a bump at speed.

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The tank in ^^ this one has been repainted, may be more damage than it looks. I'd wait for the '05 to come down in price.

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Either way, I'd buy an Ohlins shock eventually, makes a WORLD of difference.

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The tank in ^^ this one has been repainted, may be more damage than it looks. I'd wait for the '05 to come down in price.
Interesting - I didn't notice that.

I also read that the 2004+ versions had slightly better stock suspension. Is there a significant difference?

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Interesting - I didn't notice that.

I also read that the 2004+ versions had slightly better stock suspension. Is there a significant difference?
Not much, just adjust ability and they still suck craptons!

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Not trying to turn this into a suspension thread or anything but the suspension on the 04+ models are fine unless you're looking to track the bike. NYC roads are pretty terrible and the 919 suspension soaks up the bumps just fine. My CBR has much sportier suspension, but it's rough around town.

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Not trying to turn this into a suspension thread or anything but the suspension on the 04+ models are fine unless you're looking to track the bike. NYC roads are pretty terrible and the 919 suspension soaks up the bumps just fine. My CBR has much sportier suspension, but it's rough around town.
I have not rode a pre '04 BUT, my '07 was completely transformed with the Ohlins....

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I used the 04+ rear shock and found it horrible. The progressives rear shock was better. The ohlins is a whole nother galaxy apart!

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How was the '04 compared to earlier? From what I've read it's alot better unless you ride 2 up all the time.

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Thanks for all the input, guys.

Looks fairly likely that I will get the '02 and save the $$ (I don't have quite enough to splurge on the '05). Just need to wait for this storm to pass.

The guy only has that Corbin seat, and I like to ride 2 up. Any suggestions as to what to do with it?

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You can ride 2 up with that seat. Or you could sell it, that Corbin is highly sought after as they will no longer make it. You could probably get between $300 and $400 if it's in really good condition.

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You can? It certainly looks nice, but it has that big bump in on the passenger side.

I guess I'll see it in person soon enough.

I also read that the Corbin seats increased the stand-over height. I have a 30' inseam, so it was tricky enough on the stock seat.

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The Corbin will be a bit higher. If you buy this bike, you could probably trade someone seats plus a couple hundred bucks for the Corbin.

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It's hit or miss with the stock seat, but I sat on a corbin and found it too hard. I can ride for hours just fine on the stock seat and get my feet down far enough with my 30" inseam. Others swear by the corbin. Just try it out both and see what you like.

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Hello again, dear forum. Would love more of your feedback.

I checked out the '02.

The Corbin seat is indeed quite hard.

Noticed a few things:

1) Bike has been down at least once, probably while standing. The gas tank has a dent and a scratch, the seat at the very back edge had a tear, and the engine casing had some scuffs. It did not get 'doored'.

2) The footpegs were seriously scratched and worn down, so one of the previous owners must have been riding the bike kinda hard.

3) Gas tank was missing the Honda stickers (that i quite like). Are they stickers or painted on? Does that mean it was in a more serious accident?

4) Guy seemed somewhat eager to get rid of the bike. Said he had an '06, red 919 before, but sold it because he wanted a black one. Doesn't make sense to me.

5) The exhaust pipes were modified - someone took out the tips, making it much louder than normal.

6) I asked if it passed inspection.. but he said that he never had it inspected. Hmm..

Asking price was $2800. I can bring it to a mechanic for an inspection, but that would be almost $100. Should I just pass on this thing, or give him a lower offer?

That '05 with 4k miles is looking much more appealing right now. OOPS, that one is no longer available.

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Pass on the '02 and go with the '05. The seller of the '02 seems kind of shady from what you're describing.

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The '05 seems to be gone. Boo.

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Hell you can probably find one just floating around right about now

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That was pretty good, actually.

There was a lot of damage, but most people are just without power, and very, very few people were hurt. Could have been a lot worse.

I know that car prices will go up due to so many vehicles being destroyed, but I wonder what will happen to bike prices. Will people be pushed to sell of their bikes to pay for other stuff?

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I'd be willing to arrange shipping to NY - I've got a nice '07 919 that was just a wee bit away from that storm

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Well, that settles it.

The '02 guy didn't want to take the time to go to my mechanic with me because I felt uneasy about it and didn't buy the bike on the spot. I feel like I dodged a bullet.

g00gl3it - your '07, is it the crazy looking one in your sig?

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Well, that settles it.

The '02 guy didn't want to take the time to go to my mechanic with me because I felt uneasy about it and didn't buy the bike on the spot. I feel like I dodged a bullet.

g00gl3it - your '07, is it the crazy looking one in your sig?
Yeah, but it's mostly back to stock now. A few leftover powdercoated parts, and de-baffled (stock dual) exhaust. So I don't have all the crazy parts I had on it before, it would never have fetched the price I was looking for it if I had left it that way.

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Looks good.. and less cazy.

How many miles.. and how much?

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Bike has just under 7k miles on the engine, but the gauges I swapped back in (I had the Koso gauges so had gotten rid of mine) show 5k.

I'm asking $4800 for it locally. Not sure what shipping charges are to NY, but I'm assuming from here they'd be $500-700.

I can get more pics or even a ride video if you'd like, just PM me.

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Unfortunately out of my price range - for now I have max of 3700.

If I come up with another 1500 or so, I'll let you know.

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Hey folks. Got myself a choice of 2 local options:

a '07 red one with about 3k miles, looks very clean, for $4000: 2007 Honda Hornet 919

and an silver '04, kind of grungy with minor rust all over, broken headlight assembly, dead battery, also 3k miles, for $3000 2004 honda 919 motorcycle bike

The red one comes with that 'shark' fairing that I'll be selling if I get it.

I'm leaning towards the red '07. The seller of the '04 is literally a used car salesman. It seems like a steal at that price, witch makes me a bit weary.

Other question. People tell me that if you just bought a bike, you are allowed to drive it home as long as you have insurance, even before it's registered.

Is that BS, or just what everyone does and usually just gets away with it?

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Hey folks. Got myself a choice of 2 local options:

a '07 red one with about 3k miles, looks very clean, for $4000: 2007 Honda Hornet 919

and an silver '04, kind of grungy with minor rust all over, broken headlight assembly, dead battery, also 3k miles, for $3000 2004 honda 919 motorcycle bike

The red one comes with that 'shark' fairing that I'll be selling if I get it.

I'm leaning towards the red '07. The seller of the '04 is literally a used car salesman. It seems like a steal at that price, witch makes me a bit weary.

Other question. People tell me that if you just bought a bike, you are allowed to drive it home as long as you have insurance, even before it's registered.

Is that BS, or just what everyone does and usually just gets away with it?
Red 07, hands down! The silver one is missing bits and pieces. For 1k more, the red 07 is a no brainer, its a better buy. You could negotiate him down some if you wanted to.

As to your other question, I can't answer as its relating to local state laws. Your best bet would be to call the local DMV or a police officer.

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Thanks man, that's what I was thinking too, but it's good to hear it from someone with more experience.

I negotiated him to 4100 (i'm a terrible negotiator) including getting it to my house - he lives 2.5 hours from me, and I didn't want to deal with shipping/renting a truck/driving/getting a ticket/whatever.

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