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post #1 of 21 Old 03-19-2008, 07:27 PM Thread Starter
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New Moto Guzzi Motorcycles $13,000 or less

Just cuz Moto Guzzi's are cool!

http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/mcy/611969336.html

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I almost bought a v11 Scura once and have seen some Guzzis from the 70's with 100k miles +

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After seeing that ad I started doing some research on the Moto Guzzi Norge 1200 sport tourer. Not a ton of horsepower compared to the 4 cylinder Japanese bikes, and still air cooled, but reviewers loved it. Definitely a beautiful machine in that Italian Red!

I have the urge to add a sport tourer to the garage, probably will end up with a ST1300 or FJR1300, but something exotic like the Norge is tempting. Lack of local dealership is a major downside though.

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I rode the norge at a MotoGuzzi test ride.

I will never buy one.
I will never borrow one.
I will never trust that I would get my money out of it.

The bike has awkward handling.
The bike has a freaky twist feeling when you have any kind of rev while shifting gears.
The only plus I can see to having one... you might be the only one in your town with it.

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I read a couple of reviews that said the side to side vibration is a bit disconcerting, but that you get used to it, although one guy said he found its handling twitchy and uncertain, just like you've reported. Like most things Italian, style has a price. Other people swear by them, Moto Guzzi is the second longest continuous manufactorer after Harley and I guess they're well known for reliability. Probably not for me though, need to go test ride some sport tourers as soon as the weather breaks, should add the Triumph Sprint ST to my list as well.

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I liked the Norge. I test rode it on the same day as f4iguy. It is great once you get it up to speed and cruising. While in town though it was a bit clumsy. I don't know if it was the way MG has the weight distributed or just me giving a review from a one day ride. I would buy one, but I like the new Concours 14 better.

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Funny - Id take a Norge over a Connie or St1300 any day. Yeah, it doesnt have 140+ Hp, but, do you really need that with a ST bike ? It does have a TON of torque and thats what you need. Ive ridden a few Guzzi and admitdly,untill you know how the bike reacts and feels, it is strange, but, one yo usee and feel how they react they are awesome bikes. The test ride doesnt due them justice, you really need a couple of hundred miles before one can truelt evaluate them.
Plus as a bounus, the Mtot Guzzis have a soul, they arent some bland ,cookie cutter , one of 150k kind of bike. Last year MG brought 1100 bikes in to the states, Kawasaki easliy bought 250k , Honda probally 750k . Guzzis arent for everbody and thats part of thier charm, kind of like Ducati, but, on a smaller scael -

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Of course it is my personal opinion and I am very thankful for having the opportunity to get to test ride them.

The hot dogs were good too!

I just do not find "querks" in a bike to be desireable.
There is a reason there are that many japanese bike out there - Value.

Another thing to consider when looking into an exotic of sorts...

dealer support and parts availability.

No one wants to be 1000 miles from home and 200 miles fromt he nearest dealer when the <insert crisis here> happens. This is the best argument for the big four.

When it comes to around town bikes, this is a risk that really is not being taken. your local dealer is up the street.

But for touring... Having a japanese bike is just liek having additional insurance.o

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The Scura I was considering needed forks. Having a friend with a machine shop, I could've made any front end work but I wanted to keep it original.
I found three dealers online. Two did not answer the phone (two attempts, two different regular business days), the third said twice they'd call me back and never did.
I bought a different bike.

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I will never trust that I would get my money out of it.

The bike has awkward handling.
The bike has a freaky twist feeling when you have any kind of rev while shifting gears.
The only plus I can see to having one... you might be the only one in your town with it.
I haven't rode the Norge but have the Griso

I agree with this except it's funny I actually liked the freaky twisting feeling when you rev'd it.

I also heard a set of pipes on it and man that was bad sounding unlike any other twin i had heard.

Other thing i did like was that it was different was those heads sticking out just tripped my trigger!

Wait a min. you drive a triple and you say one reason to not consider is dealer support. Now I'm sure there's more triumph's than the guzzi's dealers but not like they are everywhere, right?


The dealer here has over a 100k on his and i verified but unsure if he was truthful bout the service done, he claimed nothing done. His was the califorina style with luggage and all. Course understandable he was trying to get me to trade my 9'er for his griso



anyways enough from me

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UNfortunatly, most Guzzi shop are still Mom and POp places that dont keep regular hours - Espically duing the winter months, your lucky to fin any open !

To adress reilability, yeah, the older bikes had lots of issues , but, the newer one, well they are almost as good a BMWs - thie FI failure rate is second only to BMW and well ahead of Ducati and HD - Id have no problem in hopping on a NOrge and going to the west coast at anytime - For the record, I wouldnt do that on my 1996 Sport 1100 -

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UNfortunatly, most Guzzi shop are still Mom and POp places that dont keep regular hours - Espically duing the winter months, your lucky to fin any open !

To adress reilability, yeah, the older bikes had lots of issues , but, the newer one, well they are almost as good a BMWs - thie FI failure rate is second only to BMW and well ahead of Ducati and HD - Id have no problem in hopping on a NOrge and going to the west coast at anytime - For the record, I wouldnt do that on my 1996 Sport 1100 -
yep my local store is a mom and pop, but they had several used bikes there over 50k on them in service. Got to hear on with drag pipes shi... that's loud

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Yes I do ride a triple and dealer support was the only turn off for me.

Thankfully, I have buddies with 30 and 40+ thousand miles on newer Triumphs. That helps ease the concern when it is not a ramdom guy with lots of miles, but someone you actually ride with on occassion.

so far, i have had 25K virtually trouble free miles and everyday i get more confidence in the bike.

before anyone buys an "off brank" you better like your local dealer. For me, the next one is several hours away.

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Hey AJ - you go to , whats the guys name, Petes maybe , near Charlotte ?

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He is in Indian Trail and that sounds right but can't remember.

Keep talking about the triple like that and I'll own one eventually still like that Speedtriple

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You are welcome to come up to Virginia Beach this weekend.
I will happily lead you on a ride.
At any point you want to switch rides, speak up.

Simpson works on Saturday, but I am sure he will let you look at his triple.
lol
Actually, my dealer has a demo S3 (i think) so you may have the chance to ride a couple of triples.

2ohno, you are welcome too, but I figure you will be at VIR?

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You are welcome to come up to Virginia Beach this weekend.
I will happily lead you on a ride.
At any point you want to switch rides, speak up.

Simpson works on Saturday, but I am sure he will let you look at his triple.
lol
Actually, my dealer has a demo S3 (i think) so you may have the chance to ride a couple of triples.

2ohno, you are welcome too, but I figure you will be at VIR?

So I guess that means you aren't coming to VIR?

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Want to go.
If I do, it will Be on Saturday as i am now having Easter Dinner with the Fam on Monday.

If I go on Saturday, it wil be a lonely ride

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Yep, IM -planning on being there to witness my stupid brother humulation at the hands of a Sasquache - Hehehehe !

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You are welcome to come up to Virginia Beach this weekend.
I will happily lead you on a ride.
At any point you want to switch rides, speak up.

Simpson works on Saturday, but I am sure he will let you look at his triple.
lol
Actually, my dealer has a demo S3 (i think) so you may have the chance to ride a couple of triples.

2ohno, you are welcome too, but I figure you will be at VIR?
thanks for the offer may have to take you up on it sometime this weekend seems to be pulling me in two directions! easter and kids.... I wanna see racing.... come on honey the kids will like it too..

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