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Hi folks,

Whilst scouring around for the best deals on PCIII, and feeling a little reluctant to spend the $AU400-500 I have found as the best price, I came across a Wiseco Fuel Management system for the 919. Which can be had for $100 (used). A little swift research suggests that this does largely the same job as the Power Commander, yet does not have anywhere near the support both from company and owners, nor any database of maps. And yet the same effect can be had as with the PCIII?

Apparently quite simple plug and play to install and then its all done via the controller box?

Any advice on this opportunity will be greatly appreciated.

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Hi folks,

Whilst scouring around for the best deals on PCIII, and feeling a little reluctant to spend the $AU400-500 I have found as the best price, I came across a Wiseco Fuel Management system for the 919. Which can be had for $100 (used). A little swift research suggests that this does largely the same job as the Power Commander, yet does not have anywhere near the support both from company and owners, nor any database of maps. And yet the same effect can be had as with the PCIII?

Apparently quite simple plug and play to install and then its all done via the controller box?

Any advice on this opportunity will be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
D
One lower cost alternative, if you can find one, is to look for a used PC3 but the older serial version.

I sold the one I removed from my 919, on this forum, for I believe $50.

There is a lot less support than for the USB PC, but can still find some maps for it out there. The maps are a different format than the USB PC3.

If it does not come with a cable you will also need to purchase a cable. Some of the aftermarket cables that will plug into it will not transfer the data, so will need to get one that is data compatible with the PC3.

Link below is the thread of the gentleman that purchased the serial PC from me, and his process of getting it installed and mapped.

Post #15 has pics attached that show a potential map to use, can manually enter the data once the PC3 is installed and connected to your computer.

There are other maps out there that you also may be able to access by making connections with the owners of the maps.

https://www.wristtwisters.com/forums...s/80117?page=2

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One lower cost alternative, if you can find one, is to look for a used PC3 but the older serial version.

I sold the one I removed from my 919, on this forum, for I believe $50.

There is a lot less support than for the USB PC, but can still find some maps for it out there. The maps are a different format than the USB PC3.

If it does not come with a cable you will also need to purchase a cable. Some of the aftermarket cables that will plug into it will not transfer the data, so will need to get one that is data compatible with the PC3.

Link below is the thread of the gentleman that purchased the serial PC from me, and his process of getting it installed and mapped.

Post #15 has pics attached that show a potential map to use, can manually enter the data once the PC3 is installed and connected to your computer.

There are other maps out there that you also may be able to access by making connections with the owners of the maps.

https://www.wristtwisters.com/forums...s/80117?page=2
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I tried the link, but it did not go to a specific thread or post at my end.
Can you please check at your end?

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I'll add a bit more to your info:

Any PCIIIusb map in .djm format can be manually created as a PC3 serial port map in .map format.
One just needs the PC3 era software and it's still available from DynoJet, but on a request basis - it's no longer on the website as a ready download.

Any serial port patch cable will work.
BUT if your computer does not have a serial port, one needs a serial port replicator that patches from your computer's usb port.
The serial port replicators are what can too easily cause all the grief.
Not all replicators can be made to work.
DynoJet used to recommend a certain Belkin device which had been proofed.
At least a couple of WTers got their replicators to work, sometimes with some difficulties in terms of getting the correct driver installed.
For sure, have the correct driver installed is crucial.

The serial port PC3 is indeed still a valid solution, and if one can be found inexpensively and a new PCIIIusb can't be justified for whatever reason, then why not ? !

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It pulled up for me, but was page 2.
Maybe this will work, starting on page 1.

https://www.wristtwisters.com/forums...s/80117?page=1

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It pulled up for me, but was page 2.
Maybe this will work, starting on page 1.

https://www.wristtwisters.com/forums...s/80117?page=1
Weird, I still get taken to the Welcome to Wristtwisters page................
I guess it's something at my end, but I have no idea what.
Can you perhaps also pull the thread up, that way it will show up under Recent Discussions.

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I Just bumped it, it is in mechanical and technical.
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I Just bumped it, it is in mechanical and technical.
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IMO you'd be better off spending a few hundred more and get a PC111.
You'll get it back in free advice, support and help from many here who have/had power commander's fitted to their 919.
There aren't many that use other cheap fuel controllers, probably good reasons for that.
Also down the track with a PC111 you have the option of a dyno tune.

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Based on todays exchange rate $400 AUD is enough to get a brand new PCIII shipped to Australia

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Based on todays exchange rate $400 AUD is enough to get a brand new PCIII shipped to Australia
Sweet deal!

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Based on todays exchange rate $400 AUD is enough to get a brand new PCIII shipped to Australia
I'd appreciate any links, LDH!

Cheapest I have found with shipping are AU500.

Seems for the best to steer past this Wiseco device. Just need to persuade myself that I will enjoy the benefits

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I'd appreciate any links, LDH!

Cheapest I have found with shipping are AU500.

Seems for the best to steer past this Wiseco device. Just need to persuade myself that I will enjoy the benefits
Is there a socially acceptable form of persuasion that is publicly presentable, that would, ahh, ummm, persuade you?
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I will leave the Wiseco alone, hope to hear from LDH re- the $400 PC III and meanwhile hold fire on any purchase of other fuel management devices.

I am aware that the PC III makes a difference, have scoured the forums to find info on the changes, and have come to believe that rideability improves, power becomes more linear and more fun can come.

Appreciate the advice as always from all who have taken time to comment.

CHeers!

(And if anyone can point me towards a PC III for $400AU then please do!)

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I will leave the Wiseco alone, hope to hear from LDH re- the $400 PC III and meanwhile hold fire on any purchase of other fuel management devices.

I am aware that the PC III makes a difference, have scoured the forums to find info on the changes, and have come to believe that rideability improves, power becomes more linear and more fun can come.

Appreciate the advice as always from all who have taken time to comment.

CHeers!

(And if anyone can point me towards a PC III for $400AU then please do!)
LDH sells them... So I imagine if he's mentioning that price you could get it from him for that.

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