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post #1 of 12 Old 06-20-2012, 02:04 AM Thread Starter
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So I'm currently on a little road trip guys, pics to come. And I changed my oil and filter last night, the night before I left. I used Shell 10w-40 Full Synthetic and a K and N 204 filter. The old filter was on insanely tight from the PO! I stripped the nut on top trying to get it off and had to use a belt oil filter tool. Which still required a lot of force. I put a film of oil on the filter before I put it on and did it up to what I think is tight enough. Hand tight then 1/3 turn with the tool. However today I have been checking it for leaks and it has the tiniest little leak from the bottom of where the filter fits up. Not enough to drip but I can see it weeping over the duration of about 50-100kms. I doubt it's enough to cause problems and am checking the level regularly, but I never had a leak before and really don't want one now. I'm thinking of pinching it up more but will have to buy a tool because the nut in the top is a POS! But my main concern is over tightening. Any suggestions guys? And should I be worried about damaging something if I tighten it 1/8 more of a turn? I know the manual states the torque value but I don't own a torque wrench and am on the road. Thanks in advance! :-)

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post #2 of 12 Old 06-20-2012, 02:11 AM
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I don't think 1/8 turn more would hurt, I'd try it if I were on the road in your situation.

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It may just be a bit of residue oil from when you fitted it - wipe it clean and recheck later.

The filter (well Honda filter) only needs to be tightened firmly with your hands to be leak free - ensure it is clean and hand tighten - if it moves it was too loose.

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Agree with Allen. Wipe it off and recheck. It may be left over oil.

Being as it's just a small drop, I would not get into tightening an oil filter while on the road. Hand tight is good enough, and over tightening can create a situation you are not suited to rectify while on the road.

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Did you wipe road grime off the engine casing before putting the new filter one? Could be you just have some debris in there causing a poor seal.

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KN filters come with preoiled seal. +1 for excess oil not leak

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post #7 of 12 Old 06-20-2012, 11:22 AM
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The other part of this, is that its when you use tools and and the nuts on the end of the filters to put them on that you run into the issue you just had with not being able to get it off. Hand tight is all it needs, you shouldn't be using wrenches to put it on at all.

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Thanks heaps for all the input guys. I don't think it's residue oil because I wiped it clean every time I checked it yesterday, which would have been half a dozen times. And I did wiped down the case that it snugs up too before I put this new one on. That being said I may not have wiped it properly. I'm not going to tighten it anymore. I am a quarter way through my trip and if it is leaking it is only so minuscule it can hold off till I'm home where I can fix it properly. But before I leave, which will be soon I just woke up, I'll wipe it properly and check it after about 200kms. Thanks for all the help WT brothers!

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I'm sure you'll be fine with a small leak, dont worry about it and enjoy your trip! As long as the filter is tight it can wait until you get home

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post #10 of 12 Old 06-20-2012, 08:26 PM
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Remove the filter and look for any visible defects on the gasket. If that's not the issue I can't help you.
And I've changed oil on various bikes and cars over my 22 years driving and I've always turned the filter on just hand tight. Never ever have I tightened it on with a wrench,and I've never had a leak at the oil filter.
As long as you have positive contact and the gasket compresses slightly you will have a positive seal.
Don't forget to oil the gasket.

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post #11 of 12 Old 06-21-2012, 09:44 AM
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When you take the filter off make sure the gasket from the previous filter didnt stick, if you have two gaskets in there you can have a leak.
I would also look at the metal surface that the gasket sits against on the engine block to make sure it is not scared from the previous filter being to tight.
I once was in a hurry and needed my oil changed so u took my car into a quickie oil change place. After 3k i went to change the oil and had to stab a screw driver through the filter to get enough torque to get the filter off. when i did get it off the metal surface on the engine block had been scored and oil leaked from the filter until i had the surface resurfaced.
needless to say i have never had my oil changed by anyone since.

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Remove the filter and look for any visible defects on the gasket. If that's not the issue I can't help you.
And I've changed oil on various bikes and cars over my 22 years driving and I've always turned the filter on just hand tight. Never ever have I tightened it on with a wrench,and I've never had a leak at the oil filter.
As long as you have positive contact and the gasket compresses slightly you will have a positive seal.
Don't forget to oil the gasket.
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