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post #1 of 12 Old 07-27-2016, 09:21 AM Thread Starter
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Track Tire Storage

So I decided I would be switching tires for track days, Q3's on rebate sale, and sticking with PR4's or 3s for my other riding.
I know the PR4's are sorta ok for track days, but after seeing all the rubber that came off them from my last track day i decided using the right tool for the job was worth it. In my "other" riding, i'm really behind this year, but i did about 7k miles last year and do touring and 2 up riding, so i figured if I kept the track tires on 1. I wouldn't have great wet grip and 2. i'd burn through them pretty quick.

Depending how much more down time i have from swappign tires back and forth we'll see if I feel that way in a couple months.

I have 2 questions though.
1. What's the best way to store tires in between uses. Just wrap them up in cellophane? Or is there no point?

2. I change tires using baby powder instead of soapy water. i like the idea of not having moisture stuck inside the tire. but is the baby powder going to help dry out the tires if it stays on them?

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Why not just get a spare set of wheels and be done with it.

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I have an OEM set of wheels with front rotors (12,000 miles) that I'm looking to sell. I don't want to ship them so I've held off listing them for sale. Let me know if your interested. I have a project in Chambersburg and pass through Frederick on my commute.

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Why not just get a spare set of wheels and be done with it.
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Do you mean spare wheels with rotors ?
If so, do you suggest mated pads for the rotors ?
As in track wheels with rotors and prebedded pads run in on those rotors?
So one ends up changing wheels and pads ?

I'd really appreciate your opinion on the above.

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Why not just get a spare set of wheels and be done with it.
$$ & availability. I've thought about it. wouldn't be oppossed to it but seemed like it'd cost mroe than it's worth. one thing i didn't think about in the "how much of a PITA is this going to be" analyses was balancing the tires each time, and balancing worn tires.
...i should just buy a damn house with a garage and get a track bike.
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LDH,
Do you mean spare wheels with rotors ?
If so, do you suggest mated pads for the rotors ?
As in track wheels with rotors and prebedded pads run in on those rotors?
So one ends up changing wheels and pads ?

I'd really appreciate your opinion on the above.

Pads bed in to the rotors in just a couple stops. As long as both sets of rotors have initially been properly prepped to accept the current pad compound then I have zero issues swapping wheels while retaining the same pads. In fact I do it all the time. I have 5 sets of wheels for my two main track bikes.

Swapping wheels is way way easier than swapping tires on the rim. It just takes too damn much effort and time to swap tires and I have my own tire machine!


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What do you mean by prepping the rotors?

I switched to vesrah pads from oem just used this bedding procedure
How to Bed-in Brake Pads - The Best Technique for Bedding in Brake Pads

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I use a similar method of bedding in, but with bike pads it's closer to 75mph down to about 30mph for 4 or 5 cycles

What I was really referring to for prep though is getting the old compound off the rotor. OEM Honda compound isn't too bad, but some of the others really fuck up the rotor surface with contaminants that don't allow a new pad to gain proper friction coefficient.
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Pads bed in to the rotors in just a couple stops. As long as both sets of rotors have initially been properly prepped to accept the current pad compound then I have zero issues swapping wheels while retaining the same pads. In fact I do it all the time. I have 5 sets of wheels for my two main track bikes.

Swapping wheels is way way easier than swapping tires on the rim. It just takes too damn much effort and time to swap tires and I have my own tire machine!

Thanks for the reply.
By the way, that's a serious shop level changer you have!

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hmm. so i didn't prep the rotors, could that be why i'm getting some squeeling on occassion?
edit: i'm using CL pads. idk why i thought vesrah

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There are a lot of reasons that brakes can squeal and many of them are not considered a bad thing. From moisture to pad compounds to excessive brake dust build-up and even just resonance. Generally I look for obvious reasons and try to eliminate the squeal through those means and yes leftover pad material could cause a squeal too under the right conditions, but in my experience the real problem with leftover pad material is that you don't get a good bed-in with the new pads and that causes the brakes to not work as efficiently as they should. They will still stop the bike and in many cases even better the previous pads performed, but you can still be NOT getting all the performance the pads have to offer.

For some that could be hard to fathom as very few people here have likely been afforded the opportunity to test brake pads back to back let alone against brand new rotors or even just properly prepped rotors, but it does make a difference in the performance when the pad is allowed to bed in to a clean rotor surface properly.

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