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Track Day Wreck Gauge and Pulsar Cover Repair Help

Well, had my first off on the track... hot day, got tired, and went into a corner lazy, didn't hang off enough, and stuck the peg into the ground and lowsided... the bike tumbled once it got off the track but it didn't end up too bad and luckily I didn't take anyone else out/spill any oil on the track... Major damage other than mostly cosmetic stuff is the gauges broke off and the "pulsar cover" (front side cover on the engine) caved in. I took it off this morning and it did contact the gear/timing cog? behind it in two small spots... the key turned itself off when it flipped so it stopped spinning.. ... I plan on replacing the case obviously, should I probably replace that cog as well? Is there anything that makes that difficult or is it just pull the bolt, throw a new one on and torque the bolt?

Second question... the gauges snapped off at their stupid plastic mounting points... is there any way to replace this portion without replacing the whole gauges?

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Ouch! How are you doing? Any injuries?

Check the parts fiche at partzilla, I think you can buy just the white plastic housing for the gauges, then just put it all back together.

I think the cog looks fine, I would just replace the cover.

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I doubt you need to replace the pulse rotor. Honda 37103-MCZ-003 - CASE ASSY., METER (LOWER) : Ron Ayers will take care of the gauges.

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Ouch! How are you doing? Any injuries? Check the parts fiche at partzilla, I think you can buy just the white plastic housing for the gauges, then just put it all back together.
I'm fine, leathers did their job... Only injury I had at all was a couple bruises on my shoulder, a bit of a headache, and a bruised wrist... And all that was my fault... They told us at the beginning of the day that if we crash to make sure we're done crashing before we try to stand up... Sure as shit I thought I was stopped and went to stand up and did a couple cartwheels before I came to a stop...

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Lol, yeah, it's funny how we do that. Gotta retrain the reflexes, and that's not easy.

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They told us at the beginning of the day that if we crash to make sure we're done crashing before we try to stand up... Sure as shit I thought I was stopped and went to stand up and did a couple cartwheels before I came to a stop...
No shit? I don't fall well, so I worry about things like this. I haven't had an off over 40 mph yet. I've slid to a stop on asphalt before (full leathers). I waited for the noise and motion to stop, then waited a second before trying to move. But at higher speeds, I bet it's easy to be fooled.

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Thankfully you are OK !
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Here's the video... I had my best lap (my only lap without people slowing me down) two laps before I crashed... The crash doesn't look like much and it really wasn't... it's amazing how fast in can happen though...

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Here's the video...(13:30) I had my best lap (my only lap without people slowing me down) two laps before I crashed... The crash doesn't look like much and it really wasn't... it's amazing how fast in can happen though...
Good thing for gear, glad to hear you're overall good. What do you think happened? The pegs touch down and lifted the rear?

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I'm fine, leathers did their job... Only injury I had at all was a couple bruises on my shoulder, a bit of a headache, and a bruised wrist... And all that was my fault... They told us at the beginning of the day that if we crash to make sure we're done crashing before we try to stand up... Sure as shit I thought I was stopped and went to stand up and did a couple cartwheels before I came to a stop...
Glad you're ok! I did the try to stand up thing before on a low side. I flipped at least five times head over heals. I mainly did it because I was starting to feel the road rash and thought I was going slow enough. Boy was that a mistake. You should see my helmet! I still can't believe people ride without them.

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Good thing for gear, glad to hear you're overall good. What do you think happened? The pegs touch down and lifted the rear?
Yep, the pegs were touching on and off all day as I got a little faster and then hung off a little more etc... This time around I went a little faster but didn't hang off a little more and it bit me...

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Sorry to hear about your off. But so glad you're ok!

This is the main reason for a track bike in my mind. Wreck a bike you can afford to wreck while having a back-up for other duties lol.

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Sorry to hear about your off. But so glad you're ok! This is the main reason for a track bike in my mind. Wreck a bike you can afford to wreck while having a back-up for other duties lol.
My plan all along was to get a track bike this fall before I wrecked this one... Didn't end up working out so well...

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Damn that sucks dude. I did the same thing pretty much because I pushed myself to stay out when I was tired. You start making mistakes, and get real lazy.

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yea it's kinda a catch 22. you pay all that money and want all the time out there you can get but you also gotta recognize when you're not "in it". Personally I've noticed food can have a big effect on this. at my first td i was thinking of sitting out a session but then we had lunch, i was feelin pretty beat, but after eating, hydrating, i felt good to go again.

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That was a great video up until the crash. I'm glad you are okay! Have you thought about just turning your 9er into a track bike now that it's rashed up? I imagine some frame sliders or a crash cage would prevent you from cracking the cover again.



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That was a great video up until the crash. I'm glad you are okay! Have you thought about just turning your 9er into a track bike now that it's rashed up? I imagine some frame sliders or a crash cage would prevent you from cracking the cover again.
The closest track to me is Road America, and I get just annihilated on the straights there, plus I plan on racing CCS either next year or the year after, and there is no class that I could be even close to competitive in with the 9'er... It makes an awesome street bike, my favorite that I've ever ridden, but all the things that makes it great for the street make it not so great for the track... and with rockets, all the things that make them bad for the street make them perfect for the track... also, if I get a cookie cutter 600 parts availability for upgrades and replacement is much better...

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yea it's kinda a catch 22. you pay all that money and want all the time out there you can get but you also gotta recognize when you're not "in it". Personally I've noticed food can have a big effect on this. at my first td i was thinking of sitting out a session but then we had lunch, i was feelin pretty beat, but after eating, hydrating, i felt good to go again.
I usually sit out one or two sessions on track days, one right after lunch because my digestion is taxing and one later in the afternoon to cool down, reset, and hydrate (usually one or two sessions before the last of the day).

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Glad you are OK, but sorry to hear about the get-off and to see the bike in that state.

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I usually sit out one or two sessions on track days, one right after lunch because my digestion is taxing and one later in the afternoon to cool down, reset, and hydrate (usually one or two sessions before the last of the day).
Great points !
Also.
Later in the season, later hours in the day see temp drops plus sun long in the sky.
Surface temps go down, and if the riding is at tired level, there is also less heat input into the tires.
Result can be a major drop in overall grip.
Riding to grip of the time is a very very good strategy.

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Yep, the pegs were touching on and off all day as I got a little faster and then hung off a little more etc... This time around I went a little faster but didn't hang off a little more and it bit me...
Post 03s with stock springs front and back are absolute grinders.
Staying on the bike makes it worse, but even hung off, they are big time grinders.
Keep in mind LDHs pic of his stiff rear spring 02 or 3 with the brake lever worn half away.

Your video shows virtually no front brake dive.
The appearance is you are getting more rise from acceleration that any drop from brake dive.
I guess the track doesn't need much braking.
Looks like a fun layout, that's for sure.

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I guess the track doesn't need much braking.
Looks like a fun layout, that's for sure.
There's only 2 corners that you really get on the brakes with any gusto... the last turn before the front straight, and turn 1 at the end of the front straight... other than that (at least for me) the only braking was maintenance braking and never really getting on them hard... Its a really flowing track and blowing one corner screws you for the next 3 in a few spots...

It also could be that my suspension is set up like garbage because I don't know what I'm doing...

I'm going to look at a track bike tonight and then I'll be having the suspension set up by people who know what they're doing

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Keep us posted. I've signed up for my first track day so of course I want to go out and buy myself a track bike...



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There's only 2 corners that you really get on the brakes with any gusto... the last turn before the front straight, and turn 1 at the end of the front straight... other than that (at least for me) the only braking was maintenance braking and never really getting on them hard... Its a really flowing track and blowing one corner screws you for the next 3 in a few spots...

It also could be that my suspension is set up like garbage because I don't know what I'm doing...

I'm going to look at a track bike tonight and then I'll be having the suspension set up by people who know what they're doing
A dedicated track oriented bike is the ultimate.
Older ex racers make great buys as long as they are in good shape.
An initial setup by someone in the know is a good idea.
But don't do that at the expense of not learning going forward and experimenting some on an ongoing basis afterwards.
Besides, as you build pace, you'll be needing to make adjustments to account for the tire and chassis input changes.

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Keep us posted. I've signed up for my first track day so of course I want to go out and buy myself a track bike...

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Well that was quick, congrats! You don't see those Suzuki in the color too often (is it stock paint?).

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Well that was quick, congrats! You don't see those Suzuki in the color too often (is it stock paint?).
No, it's been repainted... Needs a stator cover and a shift lever, but for $2800 I can't complain... It's a 2009 with a little over 20k miles

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No, it's been repainted... Needs a stator cover and a shift lever, but for $2800 I can't complain... It's a 2009 with a little over 20k miles
Gotcha. Yea I remember some limited runs in red and black for certain years but not sure what size engines they were, want to say 750.

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is it mostly stock or did you go for a tricked out track bike?

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is it mostly stock or did you go for a tricked out track bike?
Mostly stock other than power commander and quickshifter kit... I was planning on waiting until fall to find a good deal on a well set up one, but this was too good of a deal to pass up, and any bike I got that was already "set up" I would have to respring at the very least as I weigh 300 lbs.

Side note, got the parts to fix the 9'er, cover is replaced, and it's running again, but the black frame behind the headlight is jacked, so the gauges are not very straight and look kinda goony, and the bars are super super bent, so I need to replace those before I test ride it to see if anything else is hurt...

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post #34 of 34 Old 07-31-2015, 08:45 PM
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Good riding Badmoon692008. You looked fast and smooth, for what it's worth from a fairly unqualified person. I had mine at a track day on the 11th July.
Shit nervous about dropping it as I rode it 200km to the track.
I reckon you may out ride that bikes design before long. Maybe some rear sets before the next day out, or more hanging off. Anyway I'm a fan.

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