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post #1 of 41 Old 02-07-2009, 08:51 PM Thread Starter
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Tire Advice.

I was on a ride today with a couple friends (we did 200 miles ) and we were stopped on the side of the road about 50 miles from home using the facilatree's when my buddy noticed my rear tire was worn down to the steel...
It's a Pirelli Diablo and I only got 3500 miles out of it. I ride my bike everywhere and do probably 80% highway miles so the sides of the tire are barely worn. But when I do go riding with friends I like to move. I need a tire with a WAY longer life that still maintains high performance over the mountain. I can't afford a new tire every 3500 miles.

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Pilot Power 2CT are decent and they have a harder compound in the center to help out during those long, straight rides. They have the same compound on the sides as the regular Pilot Power so they work pretty well.

You'll probably get numerous different opinions here but Bridgestone, Michelin, Perelli, Dunlop...They all make decent tires

Possibly consider going for more of a "Touring Tire", They are generally harder all the way around but I don't have any real experience with any, Sorry


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i am with McCrimmon on this one... 2ct's... i have pilot powers... i am waiting for the rear to wear out so's i can put the 2ct's on... never heard a complaint about the...



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bass do a search, but it comes down to way you will trust. If you are doing 80% highway then you should look into Pilot Road 2ct or Pirelli Strada. They are both sport touring tires that I have been happy with. The Strada went just at 8500 miles for me. Road 2s made it to 13k miles for Robtharlson(s/p?) check the search for his review on the Road 2.

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i am with McCrimmon on this one... 2ct's... i have pilot powers... i am waiting for the rear to wear out so's i can put the 2ct's on... never heard a complaint about the...
I hear ya barton...had to swap out a rear tire in a pinch last Friday and had to settle for a Pilot Power, Was looking for another 2CT cause thats what I was taking off but couldn't find any local, so I settled for a Pilot Power since my source had one...Got 10% off so I couldn't go wrong


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bass do a search, but it comes down to way you will trust. If you are doing 80% highway then you should look into Pilot Road 2ct or Pirelli Strada. They are both sport touring tires that I have been happy with. The Strada went just at 8500 miles for me. Road 2s made it to 13k miles for Robtharlson(s/p?) check the search for his review on the Road 2.
For max life, go with this suggestion,

if you want more grip than the Pilot 2ct's

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I use the Pirelli Diablo Stradas and just replaced my first one after 10K miles and it had just gotten to the wear bars.

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My regular Pilot Powers get 5k out of the rear and double that plus some in the front...

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I would suggest the Pilot Road 2's. I had them installed about 500 miles ago and am loving them. They are sticking great for me in the twisties too. Look up the reviews on them, there all pretty much great. Those would be my suggestion. The Pilot 2ct's are a great tire too, but the center of them have the same compound as the regular power, and a softer compound than the regular power on the sides for cornering. A very sticky tire if that is what you want.

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I would suggest the Pilot Road 2's. I had them installed about 500 miles ago and am loving them. They are sticking great for me in the twisties too. Look up the reviews on them, there all pretty much great. Those would be my suggestion. The Pilot 2ct's are a great tire too, but the center of them have the same compound as the regular power, and a softer compound than the regular power on the sides for cornering. A very sticky tire if that is what you want.
I bought some Pilot Road2's 1500 k's back, love these tyres! They seem to warm up quick, hold pressure well and no visible flattening in the middle (yet). I do 80-90 % highway riding, but they do really stick in the twisties too....

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I use the Pirelli Diablo Stradas and just replaced my first one after 10K miles and it had just gotten to the wear bars.
How did you manage to get 10k out of your Strada? was that out of a front or rear? I must be riding to hard, because my Strada rear only lasted 8500 and I have worn the wear indicators down a good bit.

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How did you manage to get 10k out of your Strada? was that out of a front or rear? I must be riding to hard, because my Strada rear only lasted 8500 and I have worn the wear indicators down a good bit.

Well I don't ride real hard. The 10K was from the rear. Could have something to do with the type of pavement in different areas too. I got 6500 out of the Bridgestone OEM rear.

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Well I don't ride real hard. The 10K was from the rear. Could have something to do with the type of pavement in different areas too. I got 6500 out of the Bridgestone OEM rear.
i got 1200 out of the stock bridgestone rear...

it was still like brand new when i removed them and put good tires on.... then i threw the slipstones away



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Its surprised me, Ive got 3275 miles out or a Diablo Coras III ! And that s with 2 tracdays on it ! I must be living right ?!?

Ive got some Stradas on my Guzzi and love them, now if I could only figure outWTH is going on with the starter ---

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I also have had good luck with my Stradas...9000+ miles and it was thin but definately rideable until i hit a batch of something sharp on the road and later found about a dozen holes in it. Doh! So i got another, and it has been holding up very well. they take a bit more to get warmed up than the pilot powers, but for 98% of riders i would say they stick well enough. I have the both strips scuffed on my set, i just need more corners to wear them out!

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I have 7000+ miles on my Conti Road Attacks and still have plenty of tread left for this upcoming riding season.

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i have about 4500 on my pilot powers.......... i am to the wear bar on the rears....... fronts still in great shape for some reason............. gonna decide if i want a 2ct on the rear or another p/p



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Pilot Power 2CT are decent and they have a harder compound in the center to help out during those long, straight rides. They have the same compound on the sides as the regular Pilot Power so they work pretty well.

You'll probably get numerous different opinions here but Bridgestone, Michelin, Perelli, Dunlop...They all make decent tires

Possibly consider going for more of a "Touring Tire", They are generally harder all the way around but I don't have any real experience with any, Sorry
I was under the impression that the Pilot Power 2ct was a Pilot Power center with Pilot Race sides....and the Pilot Road 2ct was a Pilot Road center with Pilot Power sides.

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I run Avon Storm STs and like them so far...

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I have about 1,500 on the Dunlop Roadsmarts and like them very much. They seem to have plenty of grip and show almost no signs of wear.

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Just to be clear on the Pilot Power 2CTs, as feel like information has been misleading about it in many places. Some have said the Power 2CT is harder in the center than the standard Powers and uses the same rubber as the Powers on the shoulder. Others say it's the same as the Power down the center and even softer on the shoulder.

The only information on Michelin's site that suggests anything is the comparison chart that would seem to imply the shoulders are softer than the standard powers.

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I have 7000+ miles on my Conti Road Attacks and still have plenty of tread left for this upcoming riding season.
I got a great deal on conti"race attacks" Putting them on today and
will be able to check them out on the Jasper run tomorrow.
Would have went back to my 2ct's but got the 2 new
race attacks for $150

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I like trying all the different tires for myself.
On my Tiger, I have tried 5 different brands and 6 different tires.
I hear how one tire sucks, then i try it with minimal issues... hmmm...
Then I hear another tire is great, then I try it, and yes it is better, but only in one exact area, and I ended up with 2000 miles less wear.
Then I hear the next......

Anyhow, I can ride around tire issues.
I use tires on my Tiger than are not as sticky as 90% of what most my friends run, but somehow my bike manages.
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IMO, your bike is a commuter as you use it.
Get commuting tires.
Learn to ride your bike on those tires. If it slips a little in spirited riding, decide for yourself if you could have ridden any smoother and that maybe the tire is not the problem.
Low mileage out of tires is not a bragging issue. Everytime I see someone brag about 2500 miles and a tire is dead, I wonder how poor their throttle control is.

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very true about the tires/ riding styles... I actually ran a Shinko Stealth (front) on mine for a while, and it stuck just fine, and lasted a good while. it's only downfall was extended highway runs would absolutely eat it up. i replaced it with another black, round tire and have also been having good luck with it.
a harder tire will, in general, stick well enough for a large majority of people, but you have to be concious of how hard you push it until it is warmed up all the way around. my pirellis were the hardest ones i've run, but once you get them warm, i have melted the front a little bit hangin it out there.

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Just to be clear on the Pilot Power 2CTs, as feel like information has been misleading about it in many places. Some have said the Power 2CT is harder in the center than the standard Powers and uses the same rubber as the Powers on the shoulder. Others say it's the same as the Power down the center and even softer on the shoulder.

The only information on Michelin's site that suggests anything is the comparison chart that would seem to imply the shoulders are softer than the standard powers.
they are softer on the shoulder. I changed my rear PP 2ct about two months ago at around 4200 miles . I now have pilot road 2ct on rear and power 2ct on front, and loving it. I think I'll stay with this set up for the type of ridding I do, which is both freeway and canyons. I should get lots of miles without compromising too much grip.

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I got a great deal on conti"race attacks" Putting them on today and
will be able to check them out on the Jasper run tomorrow.
Would have went back to my 2ct's but got the 2 new
race attacks for $150
where at???????????



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On your 1250? How many miles are you getting out of your 2cts? I'm almost certain to go with PR IICTs but I've heard great recent reports on the BT 016s. They are about 25% cheaper too...



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I got a great deal on conti"race attacks" Putting them on today and
will be able to check them out on the Jasper run tomorrow.
Would have went back to my 2ct's but got the 2 new
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I got a great deal on conti"race attacks" Putting them on today and
will be able to check them out on the Jasper run tomorrow.
Would have went back to my 2ct's but got the 2 new
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On your 1250? How many miles are you getting out of your 2cts? I'm almost certain to go with PR IICTs but I've heard great recent reports on the BT 016s. They are about 25% cheaper too...

i spoke to rworm on the phone... he got those race attacks from a buddy who had them left over......

i am seriously considering going to the SHINKO sport tires... i have read some good things about them and the price is right....



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They weren't in the original line up.

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i just put a new rear on the 9er... i put a shinko r005.... in 190-55-17.

got it for a steal at cycle gear... 109.99 plus tax and mounting... 137 out the door mounted and balanced..

this is the first time i have tried a "off" brand but i was in need of a new rear... (down past wear bars with a big flat area)...(still no chicken strips...lol..)

we shall see how well the shinko gets along with my pilot power front...

i got 4800 miles out of that rear tire and it was sticky till the bitter end... i hope this tire is half as good.. everything i read about shinko was positive... you bet your bippie if there is a problem you guys will be the first to know....

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i have about2- 3 k miles on my conti road attacks i love them. kinda getting a flat spot in them, but that is due to taking a trip to texas 2 months ago, they had the sh!test pavement i have ever seen there, like stones poured down and then tared over. + u have to do 90+ between towns so you do not get flatend. but besides that love the tires.

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well........ i took a little spin to see how they are and here are MY (imho) initial reports...

i put a 190 on instead of a 180...

it rides schhmmoooooovvv!! bumps that used to make me flinch were handled nice and soft.. ahhhhh...

traction is a-ok... ran through the few curves we have here CAUTIOUSLY.. and did not get over to peg scraping angles.. but i knocked all but less than 1/2" of the strip off and never had a unscheduled wiggle slip or slide....

i am impressed with the initial feel and the rear seems to agree with the pilot power front... i get really good traction and it will power wheelie like no tomorrow...

tomorrow i am taking a ride up to where moroso speedway used to be..... i may take a few offramps and knock the rest of the chicken strips off.........

but so far money well spent and impressive quality...

shinko aint too bad... i will say compares favorably with the pilot power....



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Pilot Power 2CT are decent and they have a harder compound in the center to help out during those long, straight rides. They have the same compound on the sides as the regular Pilot Power so they work pretty well.
The Pilot Power 2CT's are actually the same as the original in the center, but softer on the shoulders to help in cornering.

I run Pilot Powers on both wheels. Get at least 5k out of the rear, sometimes 6k, and about 12k+ on the front. Great tires

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This may be a dumb question, but can anyone tell me the difference between Pilot Road 2ct's and Pilot Power 2ct's? I've been reading through plenty of old posts, but I gots lots to learn yet!

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The Roads are more of a sport touring tire, the powers are more sport. The Roads will last longer, the powers have more grip. Most people won't need more grip than the pilot roads on the street.

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Thanks for the explanation, Justin...Hey, why don't you PM me with your number, lets meet up sometime....oh, and apologies for the threadjack!

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hey a additional little report on that shinko rear tire...

i took and tried to knock the rest of the chicken strip off today.. and they were stuck like glue even when the pegs started scraping....

bang for the buck... they are good tires.......



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hey a additional little report on that shinko rear tire...

i took and tried to knock the rest of the chicken strip off today.. and they were stuck like glue even when the pegs started scraping....

bang for the buck... they are good tires.......
Rob jr. is sayin the same thing--We did the Jasper ride this weekend
and he knocked all the strip off.You get a 180 back on there and
it will handle even better.We put a 180 on the 1000 and he likes
it as much as the 190 2ct.You know i put the race attacks on
the bandit.Holy Hell, it wants to put the bar ends on the
pavement and eat the corners up.I don't imagine they will last
long but for carving they are the best tire i've ran

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