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post #1 of 18 Old 10-05-2011, 02:16 PM Thread Starter
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Help! My key is stuck in my seat lock.
Any thoughts on how I can free it?

I was taking the tail off in order to remove my GIVI rack. I noticed that the key was stuck, so like a complete dunce, I put the seat on to see if it would come out.

It didn't.



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post #2 of 18 Old 10-05-2011, 02:29 PM
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Press *down* on the back of the seat ( closest to the key ) whilst turning the key (?)

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Tried that w/ no luck.


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WD-40 in the mechanism? Most of my ideas aside from that point would involve jiggling the key, the seat, the seat AND the key, and possibly the bike just to be on the safe side...

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I'd suggest a dry lube graphite. Open the little door and work it in on both sides.

The cover should be aggressively worked up and down while you are attempting to turn the key. You may try back and forth also along with side to side.
Either the mechanism is not swinging past the locking post because it is stuck on it or the tumblers are stuck.


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Did you remove the tail and reinstall it before putting the seat back on? If so I know what your problem is -- when the tail was reinstalled the latch arm ended up on the wrong side of the lock arm, jamming it.

To remove the seat all you need to do is remove the taillight lens and the right side bulb. Once the socket is empty twist it with a large flat bladed screwdriver until it releases, push it out of the way, and using a bent piece of coat hanger hook around the latch arm and pull while turning the key to release the seat. See picture taken from the seat side of the tail (I'm too lazy to remove the taillight lens). Notice the latch arm is behind the lock arm. That's where it should be. Yours is almost certainly in front of the arm.

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Did you remove the tail and reinstall it before putting the seat back on? If so I know what your problem is -- when the tail was reinstalled the latch arm ended up on the wrong side of the lock arm, jamming it.

To remove the seat all you need to do is remove the taillight lens and the right side bulb. Once the socket is empty twist it with a large flat bladed screwdriver until it releases, push it out of the way, and using a bent piece of coat hanger hook around the latch arm and pull while turning the key to release the seat. See picture taken from the seat side of the tail (I'm too lazy to remove the taillight lens). Notice the latch arm is behind the lock arm. That's where it should be. Yours is almost certainly in front of the arm.

Good luck.

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This was exactly the problem. Unfortunately, I discovered what I had done wrong while I was standing in the parking lot of the Honda shop.

I texted Parts Guy at the same time I made this thread, and like always, he suggested I bring it up to the shop. Reluctantly, I agreed.

Since I had the grab handle removed, I could see the latch mechanism by peering through the holes in the tail. One of the service guys poked a screwdriver through the holes and activated the seat latch. We then removed the seat with ease. As the service guy and I were messing with the key, I realized that the lock arm was on the wrong side of the latch arm. All we had to do was pop the tail off and reseat it.

Viola! Crisis averted, and it only cost me a little bit of dignity.


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^ I hate having to play that card, but I did get pester Parts Guy for a few minutes while I was up there.

I just hope he's not keeping score.


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I've gone that.....took me a few minutes to figure out why the key wouldn't come out. Just took the rear plastic off and managed to reinstall it properly.

Good job on playing the "girly" card Lucille!!

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Good job on playing the "girly" card Lucille!!
Generally the guy will just about beg for the 'girly' card, women really don't need to play it. At 62 that's been my observation.

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This guy seems to genuinely want to help me whenever he can. It's weird.

He keeps reminding me that he's only useful for a few things, and motorcycle stuff makes up the vast majority of them. However, I still feel bad about asking him for help with stuff.


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in 1969 Sandy used to come in and have me do little things to her Norton P11, then her Norton Commando (that's it in my avatar) then she took my advice and got a new 1977 kz650

She still has it, I think she slapped me with her 'girlie' card and I still haven't gotten over it.

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Who's that lady behind Sandy?

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in 1969 Sandy used to come in and have me do little things to her Norton P11, then her Norton Commando (that's it in my avatar) then she took my advice and got a new 1977 kz650

She still has it, I think she slapped me with her 'girlie' card and I still haven't gotten over it.

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Aww...

Your post made me all smiley.


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Who's that lady behind Sandy?
You're bad!

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Who's that lady behind Sandy?
The dogs name is actually Suka

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The dogs name is actually Suka

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Both are beautiful! Lucky man.

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