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post #1 of 8 Old 07-31-2019, 11:28 PM Thread Starter
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Stolen Mode - i think

Hi All.

So i am relatively new here (posting) and recently bought my own 02 919. i bought it from a guy who had recently crashed it and his wife told him he needs to get rid of it.
The bike is in literately good condition and since i got it, i have been fixing it up (Exhaust, radiator, handles etc...) but there was one catch which im only realizing now how much of a pain it is.

The bike never came with a key... It was apparently lost after the crash when the bike was towed to the lot. So when i got the bike, the guy told me i just need a new key and i will be good. Now momma didn teach me to be a patient man, so long story short, the bike wont start and i need assistance if possible.

So i though, joining the two red cables coming from the key cylinder to the main wiring loom, if i just cut them and join them, i close the "key" circuit and bobs your aunty, the bike should start. I was wrong...
So the bike powers on, lights and horn work. Hit the start button, Bike turns over, but no pump prime at all. Check the pump by grounding black/brown wire in the 2nd relay, pump primes.
Next i check the plugs, no spark on any of the cylinders. nothing. I check the coil and resistance appears good.

My suspicion is the bike thinks its being stolen and wont start. Is there a way to bypass this and "brute force" a start out of the little critter? seems to be an ECU issue




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post #2 of 8 Old 08-01-2019, 02:15 AM
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Yes, it is the ECU, waiting to be told to go.

I had a Honda mechanic "flash" a new [spare] key for me after I bought a chip-equipped blank - South Agrican guy, as it happens! It was not especially time-consuming or technical, but you had to know the right sequence to go through, and I don't recall if the original key was involved in the process or not. If you can the right person to help and persuade them that you have legitimate rights to the bike, you might be able to dig your way out...

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Yes, it is the ECU, waiting to be told to go.

I had a Honda mechanic "flash" a new [spare] key for me after I bought a chip-equipped blank - South Agrican guy, as it happens! It was not especially time-consuming or technical, but you had to know the right sequence to go through, and I don't recall if the original key was involved in the process or not. If you can the right person to help and persuade them that you have legitimate rights to the bike, you might be able to dig your way out...
I have the papers registered in the correct names and can prove it is mine

Are there after market ECU's available for the honda 919?

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post #4 of 8 Old 08-01-2019, 02:55 AM
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I've flashed key chips to the bikes H.I.S.S. before and it's dead easy.
No need for the original key since the process involves wiping the memory of all chips then recording new ones.
If you do a little Google on Honda H.I.S.S. and reprogramming a chip you'll find the process.
You'll need a key with a chip. The chip is often hidden under a panel on the key handle. Ebay.
You'll need a harness. To plug into a red connector on the bike. Make or buy one.
The reader for the chip is surrounding the ignition switch. There is a process involving the dash buttons and waving you arms about.
Good luck. If you have trouble I'll look for the excellent walk thru I used.

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Actually turns out you do need the original chipped key. To do what I did you first need to turn things on. I did a Google search. There would be a way around this.

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Although if you can turn your bike on without a key you may be able to program new chips into the system.

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post #7 of 8 Old 08-01-2019, 09:44 AM Thread Starter
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If i got a ECU (Non HISS) would i be able to use this and bypass the factory key? replace the current HISS ECU with a US Non HISS ECU ?

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post #8 of 8 Old 08-01-2019, 11:18 AM
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Yes, I think that's the direction to explore next

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