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post #1 of 46 Old 09-06-2012, 07:34 PM Thread Starter
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Soft dropped bike, oil question

I'm fairly new to motorcycles and I'm a mechanics ignoramus and I recently bought a 2003 919. I love the bike but the 2nd day I had it, I stalled out at an up hill stop sign and ended up soft dropping it. I broke the left mirror off and ended up with a small dent in the fuel tank where I tried to hold it up with my knee.

I got the bike up and the oil light came on and it wouldnt start for a few minutes. I drove the bike home and I've driven it quite a bit since.

Now almost a week later I go out for a quick spin and as I pull back into my garage the bike dies and the oil light came on. I checked the oil and couldn't see any in the window. I put 2 quarts in before I saw any in the window. As far as I remember, the oil was full when I bought the bike and it hasn't leaked.

Would a lay down cause the oil to disperse or something? I'm confused how it took so much oil.

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Step 1: You're checking the oil with the bike straight up and down, not on the center stand, and not running; correct?

If the answer to step 1 is yes.

Step 2: drain the oil making note of the amount that drains. If it's low then you need to diagnose where the missing oil went. If it isn't, refill and ride.

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Well, I was actually checking the oil with it on the kick stand, but it was definitely low. I checked the oil after filling and when I stand it straight up the oil level is above the high line so I overfilled.

I'm not sure about the easiest way to drain oil but I'm sure I can find it in the manual or something.

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Check the oil while hot and give the oil 5 mins to settle. Then check the level upright, not on the sidestand.

17mm bolt close to the kickstand is the drain bolt. Snug on the bolt when you tighten it up, usually I finger tighten and do a 1/8 to 1/4 turn with the wrench.

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Well, I was actually checking the oil with it on the kick stand, but it was definitely low. I checked the oil after filling and when I stand it straight up the oil level is above the high line so I overfilled.

I'm not sure about the easiest way to drain oil but I'm sure I can find it in the manual or something.
Too much! You need to drain your oil and re-add only the specified amount, measured while VERTICAL in the Oil glass.

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a small handheld mirror will help you check the level while you straddle the bike...It can seem a little scary to try to balance the bike while kneeling on the ground to look at the little oil window.

To get extra oil out, try a turkey baster.

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I check the oil level every week. I squat down, pull the peg area towards me and hold the handlebar(while locked) to look. I've gotten pretty good at determining where straight up and down is and by having someone verify when holding.

But DEFINITELY make sure when filling that it is perfectly straight up and down. The level in the glass can vary significantly by little movements. And DEFINITELY make sure you don't measure on the side stand as even my full bike has zero in the glass on the side stand.

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lets make this easy for ya.

Drain oil.

Change filter.

Buy 1 gallon of oil (amazing how rotella t 15w-40 comes in 1 gallon jugs)

Pour entire 1 gallon jug into 919....

DONE.



Note... the 919 calls for 3.78ish quarts of oil with filter... 4 quarts (1 gallon) will not harm it in any way.. the extra couple of oz is minimal.

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lets make this easy for ya.

Drain oil.

Change to extended filter.

Buy 1 gallon of oil (amazing how rotella t 15w-40 comes in 1 gallon jugs)

Pour entire 1 gallon jug into 919....

DONE and filled just above the halfway mark sweet spot
fixed it for ya

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fixed it for ya
even better!

extended filter being? (i personally run hi-flo filtro HF204's ... standard replacements for the OEM HONDA only cus i get em super cheap)

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You could loosen the oil filter until oil starts to come out. After it stops dripping tighten it up again, fire the bike up let it run for 10 seconds, turn it off, and check the oil level. Repeat until its at the correctly level. Just make sure you inspect the rubber oring on the filter. Ive never torn one but I always inspect it.
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lets make this easy for ya.

Drain oil.

Change filter.

Buy 1 gallon of oil (amazing how rotella t 15w-40 comes in 1 gallon jugs)

Pour entire 1 gallon jug into 919....

DONE.



Note... the 919 calls for 3.78ish quarts of oil with filter... 4 quarts (1 gallon) will not harm it in any way.. the extra couple of oz is minimal.
Do you know how much gas you can buy with that extra 1/8 of a quart. That's about 2 gallons of gas over 10 oil changes which is a lot of wheelies coming out of the snake.

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Do you know how much gas you can buy with that extra 1/8 of a quart. That's about 2 gallons of gas over 10 oil changes which is a lot of wheelies coming out of the snake.
hahahhahha

but you see... 1 i am cheap, 2, i like to be efficient ... 10 oil changes at 3.5k mi a piece is 35k miles... at my current riding thats about 4 years of riding


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Yall are just jealous that soon when that awesome fluffy white stuff starts falling hard core this season due to el nino, that on the days im not on the snow skis ill still be riding the 919 in the canyons! It is then when i whip out the go pro and make vids for you winter folk.

You're damn right we are LOL

Actually I ride in the winter if it's above 35F. Heated gloves and jacket liner help.

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Actually I ride in the winter if it's above 35F. Heated gloves and jacket liner help.
ricard rides in -35.

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ricard rides in -35.
He also goes really fast in traffic.... Ridiculous fast

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You could loosen the oil filter until oil starts to come out. After it stops dripping tighten it up again, fire the bike up let it run for 10 seconds, turn it off, and check the oil level. Repeat until its at the correctly level. Just make sure you inspect the rubber oring on the filter. Ive never torn one but I always inspect it.
This is definitely the easiest way to drain excess oil. I overfilled once before and used this method to get it out. That sight glass is very sensitive to lean angle, if you can get someone to sit on the bike and check it that way. I usually just grab the handle bar and peg and stand it up while I squat beside the bike.

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Hey now guys. Let me set the record straight here. I don't ride in -35. I'm willing to ride in -15C (5F). And I don't go ridiculous fast in traffic either. 100mph isn't ridiculous, is it? Well maybe for an older guy but it sure is fun.

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... wheelies coming out of the snake..
Jeezum Criminy, Mike, u got wheelies comin' out of The Snake?!? Man, I'd see a specialist about that real quick...

Or apparently [according to A Reliable Web Source] you can home-fix it, by soaking said snake in a glass or two of transmission wine....

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Jeezum Criminy, Mike, u got wheelies comin' out of The Snake?!? Man, I'd see a specialist about that real quick...

Or apparently [according to A Reliable Web Source] you can home-fix it, by soaking said snake in a glass or two of transmission wine....
Turns out it was bad oil...

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And I don't go ridiculous fast in traffic either. 100mph isn't ridiculous, is it? Well maybe for an older guy but it sure is fun.
It was more than 100... AND in 4th of July weekend traffic LOL I'm still shocked we were able to make that run in so little time

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It was more than 100... AND in 4th of July weekend traffic LOL I'm still shocked we were able to make that run in so little time
Shhhh. The cops are still looking for me out your way. It was fun, even though I had to watch my mirrors to make sure I didn't lose you. I'd like to do more rides with you again sometime.

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Says stalker ski-lift dude lol
All he can think about lately is the "snow that's comin'", lol...

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Turns out it was bad oil...

So, bad snake oil, then?

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Ok 2 questions: #1 "soft drop"? Vs what!? A not so soft drop? So a hard drop must be like when the gsxr topple off of the fully extended bike lift, ouch!

# 2 - snake oil?

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Check your air box, whenever I flip a quad the oil goes there

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# 2 - snake oil?
Well, if you have to, but a couple of glasses of transmission wine first...

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If that don't do it, muffler bearings will.

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What the hell kind of bikes are you guys riding!!?? Sounds like they would be a pain in the ass to do maintenance on!

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What the hell kind of bikes are you guys riding!!?? Sounds like they would be a pain in the ass to do maintenance on!
...wait till you hear what it's like to do a trail-side powerband replacement on a 2-stroke enduro bike...that's if you're carrying a spare, of course.

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...wait till you hear what it's like to do a trail-side powerband replacement on a 2-stroke enduro bike...that's if you're carrying a spare, of course.
Ok this is just crazy talk!

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Looks like good stuff!

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