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post #1 of 25 Old 10-08-2011, 07:08 PM Thread Starter
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Over filling the oil?

So I changed my oil today, had to use the mirror method to see the oil window. When I finished I thought I was at the top line, went for a ride and when I got back I got my wife to sit on the bike so I could check it properly and the window is filled entirely up.

How bad is this? Should I go through the trouble of draining the small amount of oil to get it even with the top fill line, or just not worry about it?

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Drain a bit out, while the bike is cold so you don't deep fry your fingers. Then you can rest and sigh a breath of relief.

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Never tested it, but I've heard of bubbling and change in oil pressure with too much oil.

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How much do you have to tilt the bike to see the oil level in the site glass? If it's just a bit than I wouldn't worry about it. These oil sites are pretty sensitive to slope and I bet most of us have been a little high the odd time due to uneven ground or not having the bike perfectly level. If you have to lean the bike quite a bit, then I would do as Dave suggests.

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I always take a gallon jug and drain the 2oz.(I think) to get the proper amount, a full gallon IS too much.

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Off the top of my head it's 3.6 l for a full with a filter change.


You can suck a bit out with a big syringe with a tube on the end - pop the tube down the filler hole and lean the bike to the right.


But you left out the most important part of your post - what oil did you use!

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The risk you are running is blowing a head gasket. Cheap part, but a lot of work as compared to draining off a little bit of oil. I'll suggest a method that others haven't, just because I like to be different Drop the filter, easy to get a couple of ounces out that way at the expense of a little mess.

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Best way to fill on the money, get a gallon of your preferred oil.

Buy yourself an extended oil filter (eg:Mobil-1 m110, Bosch 3320, etc.).

Drop the old oil semi-warm, fill new filter 2/3 full and let soak into the filter media then reinstall. Take your gallon jug, and pour 1-1.5 small funnel full into the filler with the drain bolt still out (pushes more of the old stuff out). Put drain bolt back on, and put the rest of your gallon in. This methods always fill me to just a little above the halfway mark.


As for your over-fill, if you want to know if the bike is truly level when you check the window, put a small level on top of the gas tank and then check. If you're overfilled, do what beefsalad says and crack the filter to let some out.

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I always take a gallon jug and drain the 2oz.(I think) to get the proper amount, a full gallon IS too much.
Correction, remove 6 oz. from the gallon and you're good for 3.8 qt.

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I've always wondered about the reprecussions of such.

Would someone please elaborate ? Beefsalad? How does over filling lead to a blown h/g ?

I know if the crank hits the oil it will cause foaming as well as unnecessary parasitic drag, and the foaming can lead to weak oil pressure. But what else?

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I've always wondered about the reprecussions of such.

Would someone please elaborate ? Beefsalad? How does over filling lead to a blown h/g ?

I know if the crank hits the oil it will cause foaming as well as unnecessary parasitic drag, and the foaming can lead to weak oil pressure. But what else?
There is zero relationship between oil level and head gaskets.

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I just can't believe there is so much hand holding over a bit of extra oil.



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Thanks for the responses. I used the Honda GN4, and put almost the whole gallon jug in, there was probably a couple oz left in the jug so I don't think I'm 6oz over, but I'm gonna drain a little bit of it now to be safe.

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I just can't believe there is so much hand holding over a bit of extra oil.



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You're just grumpy because you are all cut up.

Based on your ability to type, I assume that the surgeries went well?

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You're just grumpy because you are all cut up.

Based on your ability to type, I assume that the surgeries went well?
Ya....I'm grumpy.


I'm already doing exercises that the doc recommended.

I feel like I was smashed up in a football game.

The pain killers are making me want to puke so that gets me mad. I can't wipe and my wife told me to be quiet in the bathroom this morning and that pissed me off.

First thing I think of when I wake up is that I'm out of a job soon, but I digress. This topic is about oil overfill.



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Ya....I'm grumpy.


I'm already doing exercises that the doc recommended.

I feel like I was smashed up in a football game.

The pain killers are making me want to puke so that gets me mad. I can't wipe and my wife told me to be quiet in the bathroom this morning and that pissed me off.

First thing I think of when I wake up is that I'm out of a job soon, but I digress. This topic is about oil overfill.



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Can I use the comfort wipe to soak up the extra 4oz of oil in my 919?
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I went with dropping the filter method and took out about 5oz or so. Now it's within the sight glass limits and I can rest easy. Probably all in my head but the shifts seemed smoother afterwards.

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lol.... you guys make me laf.

service manual = 3.8US quarts with oil drain + filter change....

ill drain the thing change filter, pour a whole gallon of rotella t 15-40 in, and be on my mary way....

done this for 15k mi now... no issues. i mean CMON, have you seen how little 6oz is... with a 3.8Us quart figure the extra .2 quarts comes out to an extra 5% of oil.... absolutely nothing to worry about.


Now with out a filter change, ill just not put the last bit in... no biggy, no need to get all scientific on this bike as far as oil goes.

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lol.... you guys make me laf.

service manual = 3.8US quarts with oil drain + filter change....

ill drain the thing change filter, pour a whole gallon of rotella t 15-40 in, and be on my mary way....

done this for 15k mi now... no issues. i mean CMON, have you seen how little 6oz is... with a 3.8Us quart figure the extra .2 quarts comes out to an extra 5% of oil.... absolutely nothing to worry about.


Now with out a filter change, ill just not put the last bit in... no biggy, no need to get all scientific on this bike as far as oil goes.

Good work, nd4spdbh. I've been doing that for 10k with no ill effects. I mean, c'mon, its a Honda. They're bulletproof.

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then why not 2 gal and just change filters every month?

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Good work, nd4spdbh. I've been doing that for 10k with no ill effects. I mean, c'mon, its a Honda. They're bulletproof.
well i would say that an extra quart might eff things up (more than likely you would just get alot of blow off through the breather) but 6oz aint gonna do shit.

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i figure the residue in the quarts and with what i lose spilling it everywhere (why i cant find a dang funnel is beyond me) is close enough, and when its running its drops outve the sight completely. but im a little overfull, 500 miles and still going, knock on nightstand.

as for oil (had to bring it up)
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