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new tires and improvisation

i put new tires on the 9er today .. i got a great deal from my buddy at cycle gear and i put a new set of pirelli diablos on for $250 mounted and balanced... but guess what cycle gear don't remove and replace tires on the bike so guess what... you gotta take your own rims off and put them back on...

i don't have a stand.. i am not spending 90 bucks for a pit stand so i improvise... enter the cinder block.. mans 2nd best friend and supporter of camaro's everywhere...

i have mentioned numerous times about how to use a cinder block properly and this time i took pictures.. so with no further ado and no more gilding the lily here it is...

changing tires with a cinder block..

first.. tilt the bike onto the kickstand carefully and have a friend slide the cinderblock under the rear part of the exhaust...make sure the weight is towards the back and shake it a bit to make sure gravity won't screw you over when the tire is not there..and remove the tire..







here is the old with the new...


then after reinstalling the rear its time for the front.. CAREFULLY tilt the bike lifting the front wheel... be careful the bike don't like to be in this position but with a little strength and determination it will be fine... CAREFULLY put the cinder block under the exhaust and test to make sure it is steady.. then take off the front... like so..




then put the tire/rim back on and tighten everything up and cross your "i's" and dot your "t's" and voila..... all good in the hood... it is better to have the proper lifts and stands like some here have but if you don't you can still do what you need to do with a little common sense and muscle..





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I'll see your ghetto jack and raise you one!


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????

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actually it is stable as heck ripper... you can shake the bike and do whatever and it don't move...and in a pinch its easier to find a cinderblock than a lift...



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Ha ! crud. tj does the same thing witha block of wood. it works. it does it does.

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Revision A: put a old towel or rag on the cinder to prevent scratching.

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I'll call you on the ghetto jack and raise you a home-made jack.


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is that part of a old crutch?????????



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Very cool James. Please describe the parts.

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is that part of a old crutch?????????
You got that right. I made a whole batch of them from crutches I bought at various Goodwill stores around my area.


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You got that right. I made a whole batch of them from crutches I bought at various Goodwill stores around my area.

that is freakin cool....



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Hey Barton, That is one way of changing out your tires. Looks like a nice method to do for many people without stands.

Your old tires don't look too wore out, although it could be the photos playing tricks. How are you liking the new tires?

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Very cool James. Please describe the parts.
I'll have to see if I have another full crutch lying around so I can do a how-to guide on making them. They cost me about $15 each to make with the design I chose as the strongest. There are other designs out there, but they all seemed too flimsy, not compact enough or downright dangerous. The one I finally chose was lightweight, easily portable with the bike and very strong. I carried it everywhere the KLR went and used it more than once on mine and other rider's bikes for flat tires, chain maintenance, general cleaning and oil changes.

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I'll have to see if I have another full crutch lying around so I can do a how-to guide on making them. They cost me about $15 each to make with the design I chose as the strongest. There are other designs out there, but they all seemed too flimsy, not compact enough or downright dangerous. The one I finally chose was lightweight, easily portable with the bike and very strong. I carried it everywhere the KLR went and used it more than once on mine and other rider's bikes for flat tires, chain maintenance, general cleaning and oil changes.
Please do... It would make a excellent addition to our How-To data base'.

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OK....

"Nice" in my context meant a quick and FREE solution to a problem.
He solved a problem, then posted pics so others would not have to re-invent that wheel. Yea, that's nice.

A PHOBMAN stand is a better engineered solution for the rear wheel, though not free.
A front stand is a better engineered solution for the front wheel, though not free.

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I still think hanging one end of the bike from an overhead ceiling beam or branch is the best option (if you don't have a centerstand or a bike lift). It is literally impossible to knock the bike over. If you use a chain hoist or a come-along, you don't even have to do any lifting.

I am impressed with the recycled crutch stands, though.

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I still think hanging one end of the bike from an overhead ceiling beam or branch is the best option (if you don't have a centerstand or a bike lift). It is literally impossible to knock the bike over. If you use a chain hoist or a come-along, you don't even have to do any lifting.

I am impressed with the recycled crutch stands, though.
if you noticed i don't have a garage or a hoist or a come-along.. nor is there anything around to hook one to if i did have one...



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Good deal Brian...Let me know how you like those tires


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Your old tires don't look too wore out, although it could be the photos playing tricks. How are you liking the new tires?
no the back had ~2500 miles on it and has a butt load of life left... unfortunately i had put a 190 rear on there when it calls for a 180.. this makes the rear tire flatten out and when you lean it the contact patch is very (read that scary) small... i didnt like it and it made the handling sensation unpleasant... BUT it was freight train stable on the interstate and if i was running I-10 across the usa i would do it again... the front had ~6500 miles on it and was just starting to cup a bit...

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Good deal Brian...Let me know how you like those tires
i had these on my cbr1000 and i loved them... they are confidence inspiring and i put them as good as pilot powers...

and $250 a set installed is tha shizznit!!



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I hear rumor that we in Indiana were going to get a Cycle Gear!

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i had these on my cbr1000 and i loved them... they are confidence inspiring and i put them as good as pilot powers...

and $250 a set installed is tha shizznit!!

Good deal...Thanks bud...I may switch to something other then Michelin for my next tires


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i had these on my cbr1000 and i loved them... they are confidence inspiring and i put them as good as pilot powers...

and $250 a set installed is tha shizznit!!
Other than the on/off ramps, how can you south FL riders evaluate any tire to it's potential?

Might as well put a set of Flintstones on and be done with it.

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no the back had ~2500 miles on it and has a butt load of life left... unfortunately i had put a 190 rear on there when it calls for a 180.
I forgot that you put a 190 on it. Hope that you enjoy the new tires .

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Very interesting! I've done it a bazillion times with my old vws. It's always good to have a back up plan or the " don't worry i seen this on TV" !

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Other than the on/off ramps, how can you south FL riders evaluate any tire to it's potential?

Might as well put a set of Flintstones on and be done with it.
moroso, jennings, palm beach motorspeedway, hialeah.....

you would be shocked at some of the curves here..



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moroso, jennings, palm beach motorspeedway, hialeah.....

you would be shocked at some of the curves here..
I'm quite aware of the FL tracks. Jennings is not exactly So. FL.
Which ones have you taken a track day(s) on?

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I'm quite aware of the FL tracks. Which ones have you taken a track day(s) on?
never said i took a track day... just saying there are curves available here....

and there are numerous unoccupied housing communties that are full of nice little twisties.. and the cops can't mess with you because its private property so you can get as "ignert" as you wanna get...

tk919 showed me one up near his house that was pretty nice....



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Great ideas! I have front and rear stands in my garage, but always good to have a backup plan for the road.

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never said i took a track day...
That's exactly my point!!!

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great idea glad i took a peek at this thread..i have to small pump jacks from pickup tricks one piece of pipe and im golden

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Other than the on/off ramps, how can you south FL riders evaluate any tire to it's potential?

Might as well put a set of Flintstones on and be done with it.
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moroso, jennings, palm beach motorspeedway, hialeah.....

you would be shocked at some of the curves here..
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I'm quite aware of the FL tracks. Jennings is not exactly So. FL.
Which ones have you taken a track day(s) on?
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never said i took a track day... just saying there are curves available here....

and there are numerous unoccupied housing communties that are full of nice little twisties.. and the cops can't mess with you because its private property so you can get as "ignert" as you wanna get...

tk919 showed me one up near his house that was pretty nice....
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That's exactly my point!!!
didnt know we had to do track days to be able to say whether a tire was any good or not...

we may not have mountainous twisties such as you guys have but there are quite a few roads you can scrape pegs on.. *(i know my feelers are just about gone)...

and track days would be more impressive if they tossed a couple old lady's in cadilacs going in the other direction... i see no use in spending $500+ for a set of leathers then an additional 200+/- for a track day not to mention the new tires i will probably need before or after above said track day....

all for what?

i will never be a professional racer..*(nor will any of the others here)

i don't wanna take a chance on wadding up my bike on a track and my insurance telling me to "kiss it"...

i like my little hooligan moments... altho i must say they are getting few and far between now that i have a job where if i get arrested for stupidity it might cost me my lively hood...

the idea of being a "racer" doesnt appeal to me... i like to watch them in person or on t.v..

i just started this to show someone how to change a tire for cheap cheap...
not track days..

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oh lighten up francis...


the closest you got to twisties is spelling twisty <g>

i say that having spent only 5 yrs in Miami and running the Miami Grand Prix to work everyday in Coral Gables...people passing me using the sidewalk in South Miami, hittin deep triple digits ripping by the airport on the way to miami beach

scrappin peg feelers, ya oughtta be ashamed, hell i wore those little nubs off keepin my butt firmly planted on the seat and just throwin the bike under me

you know you want to wear a full leather suit, climb into a trunk and have mary call you a bad gimp

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best curves are north of 14th street, they're from germany or italy or brazil and they work nights, suntan during the day and can be found layin on the sand near the water

i miss being unemployed and kicking around miami, gettin my rocket fuel from versailles and munchin on deep fried death at La Palm on Calle Ocho at 4am

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getting back on track, i used a 4ft piece of pipe that fit through the centerstand holes

leaned the bike over one way, put a cinder block under the pipe, went to the other side, lifted the bike by the pipe and put it on the other cinder block...did it in the living room, redneck style...works so long as there's no woman in the house, mine have tended to complain about the smell of fuel and grease....at least until i fed the dog pepperoni, than the mutt took the harshing

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Wish I had a cinder block, all I have are these fancy stands dammit!

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look, no complaining from you...family with mucho quality land, a great business, sweet bar on the side and a wife that most of us would walk through fire to have....just be glad something doesn't randomly fall out of the sky and squash you to even up the score for the rest of us mutts out here

and don't give me that clean living crap...you, sir are a fortunate son...enjoy it so the rest of us can, if only vicariously...complaining about stands...sheesh

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Ok, ok, actually I have cinder blocks too

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i made a trip thru south beach the other morning at about 6:45~a.m... and there were "curves" finishing their hard nights work everywhere...

nice eye candy ......... until come to reality and realize what it is.... and being in south beach there is the very high chance that "false advertising" is involved.. ...

i just got woke up at 7:14 am on my day off because my son knew he had a flat on his bicycle yesterday but decided to wait until this morning to attempt a repair... because 'hey why you wanna work on something when you have 5 hours to do the repair when you can wait and try and doit with 5 minutes........but i have to say i took it better than i normally would... i b.itched at him for the 10 minute drive to his school.... i must be getting nicer in my +40 years... cause at 39 i would have made him jog to school and punished him if he was late....

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