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Question New Tires?

So I am new to Wrist Twisters, and I figured I'd try out my first question thread.
I recently just purchased a 2004 919 and the current wheels on it are in not so good shape.
What tires should I get next, I am looking for an all around good tire, that will last a while, but something that is still fun too!
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I would guess there are 50 threads about tires but the easy answer is Michelin Pilot Road 2 or 3. Haven't read a bad review of these.

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Pilot Power 2CT's as well, a little stickier than the Roads, but you won't get as much life out of them.

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Just installed a set of Bridgestone BT023's on my 04, haven't had a chance to test them out yet since I manages to warp a front rotor while the wheel was off and the replacement hasn't arrived yet. I went with the BT023 over the PR3's because both came highly recomended but the BT023's were cheaper at Americanmototire.com


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Can't go wrong with the Pilot Road 2's a stated a million times here. I haven't checked the prices later, but they might be less now that the PR3's are out.

The PR2's inspire a lot of confidence, have great handling characteristics, good wet performance and good tread life.

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The "plain" Pilot Powers are excellent, and are usually much cheaper.

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Michelin Pilot Road 2's or the new 3's. Very good grip in the dry and wet.

I got 22K km's (13.8K miles) out of my last set (2's) and I do a lot of commuting in the rain and fun on weekends.

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Pilot Road 2 as of June, very happy with them on wet and dry.

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I just put on Pirelli Angel ST. I'd say a good alternative to the PR2s and PR3s. If you go to a shop that have tires you can look at, the Angels profile (shape) are similar to its stickier brethren. Helps with the turn in and you still get the long life. Expecting about 10k miles from them. We'll see. Got about 1000 miles on them and they are excellent in dry and wet (got to test this yesterday).

You can get them around the same price as the PR2s.

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Awesome! Thanks all for the help, Appreciate it!
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One of them traditional which tire threads... Everyone has an opinion about this subject, first please consider what you want from your tire...

Long life? Amazing grip? Better wet performance? There is a better tire for each of these options...

For me dunlop qualifiers are good... They have good life, good grip and good price.
Best grip was metzeller M5...
Best wet performance was pirelli angel...
Best touring were dunlop roadmax and michelin 2ct

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I got a great price (even delivered to New Zealand!!!) on some Pirelli Diablos from Jake Wilson, and am very happy with them...can't report on mileage, but grip and feel are great so far.

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The "plain" Pilot Powers are excellent, and are usually much cheaper.
Yep - I've just gone from PR2 to PP.


I too had the PP shipped to New Zealand from Jake Wilson - soooo much cheaper than buying here


PR2 are excellent all round tyres and last well on the 919 are sticky enough for hooning. I went for the PP as they were so cheap I thought I try a set as they review well on WT. I only expect half the life out of them compared to the PR2.

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Pilot Power 2CT's as well, a little stickier than the Roads, but you won't get as much life out of them.

I'm a beginner on street bikes and these have proved to be an awesome all-round tire.

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I have about 400 miles on a new set of Dunlop Q2 Sportmax tires...I'm a dry road rider, no issues with these tires. Ride is fine, really good reviews on other sites...i'd have gone with the Pilots if they were available locally (front you're had a bulge causing a shimmy on decel). Had to replace asap.

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I have about 400 miles on a new set of Dunlop Q2 Sportmax tires...I'm a dry road rider, no issues with these tires. Ride is fine, really good reviews on other sites...i'd have gone with the Pilots if they were available locally (front you're had a bulge causing a shimmy on decel). Had to replace asap.
I run Q2's on the track. Awesome tire. Wouldn't recommend for commuters, though.

I'm running a PR2 up front, and PR3 in the rear...but a local shop has PP for $185 a set, I may have to check them out...


Effe, Michelin's 2ct is a design, not a line. They have PP 2ct and PR2/3 2ct.

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I only expect half the life out of them compared to the PR2.
You'll have to let me know if that ends up being the case.

I manage 5500 miles out of a set on my 2005 ZX10R, and the current set on my 919 with ~3,000 miles on them look to be a really good shape -- I'm suspecting 6,000 miles(?) out of them.

( My previous set were the Bridgestone BT016s on the 919, and those things lasted 2900 miles and they were absolutely destroyed. )

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I run Q2's on the track. Awesome tire. Wouldn't recommend for commuters, though.

I'm running a PR2 up front, and PR3 in the rear...but a local shop has PP for $185 a set, I may have to check them out...


Effe, Michelin's 2ct is a design, not a line. They have PP 2ct and PR2/3 2ct.
I ride the bike for fun mostly, fair weather safe queen...I commute on a KLR650. Should I be concerned about anything in specific? Maybe these will just wear faster than I would like? I do like the twistys but would like to know if there are any issues using these on the road...

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I ride the bike for fun mostly, fair weather safe queen...I commute on a KLR650. Should I be concerned about anything in specific? Maybe these will just wear faster than I would like? I do like the twistys but would like to know if there are any issues using these on the road...

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I can't say much for Q2's in the rain - I may have gotten one, maybe two rides in the wet last year on them, on one of my previous bikes. They warm up pretty fast, and there's good feedback. Last year, I ran a set of Q2's on my street bike - one track day, 3500 miles, maybe out of them. I run lower pressures, as well. I bet you could stretch 5k.

I had an old set of first gen Qualifiers earlier this year that came on the R6, and they were not that great in the rain. I've since replaced them with the Q2.

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I am going to keep an eye on prices for the next couple of months. If I can find a good deal on the PR3's I will go with them. If not then I am going back with the Dunlop Roadsmarts. I have really liked them.

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I loved my RoadSmarts until they got down to the wear markers, then they kinda lost all their feedback and got skittery in the corners.


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I loved my RoadSmarts until they got down to the wear markers, then they kinda lost all their feedback and got skittery in the corners.
Ah - that's because they were stuffed!

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PP 2CT's here. Have about 5K on them now and still have some good tread on them. Only managed to slip the rear once pushing hard in a tight turn, but was controllable when it happened. The rear is starting to get flat from all the commuting miles (most of the 5K) but still feel pretty good.

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Put on a set of Conti Road Attack 2's on at begining of June. They are awesome. Sticky wet or dry. Great ride too.

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I just put a set of Pirelli Diablo Rossos on mine and stepped up to a 190/55 on the rear. Bike handles great, great grip. Had a set of BT02s on it before, another great tire. Had 10,000k on them, could have gotten another 1000 out of them

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Put on a set of Conti Road Attack 2's on at begining of June. They are awesome. Sticky wet or dry. Great ride too.
Hey let us know how long they survive - I was keen on a set of Conti 2's after enjoying the earlier version on a big bore Suzuki a few years back. Only reason I did not go there is the super price I got the PP's landed for!

The reports from NZ riders I've heard are that they are on the sporty side of sport-touring and stick very well but will not last as long as the PR (or3).

Darn cool looking tread pattern though!

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Michelin PR3 currently, really like them. Stick to the road like my Dunlop Q2 did in the dry, but these also stick like that in the wet! Little bit of a vibration on the front tire above 120...but otherwise fantastic.

Best price I've found with free shipping was here: 303 Cycle Michelin Pilot Road 3 Motorcycle Tires from 303 Cycle best prices on Shorai Batteries too...

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Just been out scrubbing in the edges of my new Pilot Powers - I must say with the the winters suspension mods and the PP's I'm fair flying along now!

One thing I notice between the Powers and PR2's other than the obvious quicker turning due to the profile is the Powers are a lot quieter than the Road2's - I'd say it is due to there being a lot less of a tread pattern on the Powers.

So are the PR3's noisier than the 2's? as they have even more tread.

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After 800kms of PR3's I feel as though I can throw my opinion in as well. Wet traction is incredibly confidence inspiring, I caught myself leaning where I would normally keep the bike fairly upright also, there is no visible wear to the tire yet.

Caveat: my experience with the front tire traction on a dry road is not as good as the PR2. I've had the front start to wash out on me in a high-speed sweeper and the other day my front tire completely locked up when braking hard coming up to a stoplight. With the road 2's I could get some chatter from the front end as a warning that I'm almost out of traction; however the 3's front begins to slip without much input.

I'm assuming the horizontal sipes on the front tire allows for a lot of tread block flex -relative to the lack of a tread block on the PR2, which might be absorbing the feedback I'd normally be getting?!?

Either way, great tire that I'd buy again based on the mileage I do, but when I really start to push it the front lets me know.

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Have put about 500 miles on a new Michelin Pilot Road 2 rear, have nothing but good things to say about it. Can get one for about $150 right, worth every penny. I was amazed how at confidence inspiring it was in the twisties. EXCELLENT tire!

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I just put BT015 on mine handles great.

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023 great all around tire...but tell ya the truth any new tires are going to fell like a million bucks

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Motorcycle Superstore has a good sale going on tires and with free shipping. I just ordered a set of Pilot Road 2s for $149.99 rear and $116.99 front. In addition I used a 10% coupon that I had I found that Cycle Gear will mount and balance locally for $30 each - would have been $20 if I bought from them but their prices were way higher than Motorcycle Superstore. The Cycle Gear people want me to remove the wheels at home which I'm happy to do for the savings.

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any one have any experience with Conti Motion?

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Just had PR3 front and back on my 9er 3 days ago and totally love them. Just like you guys said, it sticks well in the dry.
Today got the chance to try the tires in the wet. The afternoon started with light shower when I started to ride the bike. Half way to my destination, it started to rain heavily and with so much water on the road flowing sideways, the bike feels planted and steady. I took corners with confidence as the tires are very assuring...

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So are the PR3's noisier than the 2's? as they have even more tread.
I'd say there is no noticeable difference with a full face on.

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