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post #1 of 26 Old 09-11-2012, 02:38 PM Thread Starter
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Methinks it's time for a new clutch.

In any gear, when I crack the throttle, the rpms race up as if i'm lightly squeezing the clutch. I can feel it start to grab as I ease off the throttle or hold it steady.

Plenty of oil, and it's about 2k miles into the last oil change. Just the boring oil, there's no energy saving bullshit causing it to slip.

Had the proper amount of slack in the cable, even put too much slack to make sure. The cable is getting very close to the end of adjustment on both ends.

A clutch at about 18k doesn't seem too out of the ordinary does it?

I only use the clutch when I'm slowing down to go into first, or taking off in first. Otherwise almost all others shifts are clutchless, up and down.

What clutch and where do most members get theirs?

Any tips or tricks I need to know?

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post #2 of 26 Old 09-11-2012, 02:42 PM
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Are you sure your clutch is adjusted properly? How about binding? Have you lubed the clutch anytime recently? I think it has something to do with the clutch cable itself rather than the clutch.

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i doubt the clutch is fried at 18 k..... mine is still rock solid at 21k and im hard on it, tons of hard launches, feathering downshifts into first etc etc.

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Time for a new cable?

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A stretched out cable shouldn't make is slip at speed, so long as it's not pulling on the clutch actuator.

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hmmm...

looks like you got tons of slack there so that shouldnt be the issue.

You sure your oil doesnt have energy conserving additives in it?

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Absolutely positive.

I used the 15w40 Rotella diesel oil. There was nothing on the api label in the lower half.

The same stuff that many members here use.

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Absolutely positive.

I used the 15w40 Rotella diesel oil. There was nothing on the api label in the lower half.

The same stuff that many members here use.
as well as i have used for the past 20k mi... rotella T 15w-40 is even jaso ma certified for use in motorcycles. so it aint that.

HMMMM well before buying a new clutch (i would go OEM if you do) i would take a peak inside the current one and see if the fiber disks are still good... if they are then its gotta be something else.

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I beat on mine, clutching up wheelies, and it still made it to almost 24K.

When I changed it out, I had to get new spring bolts as they had stretched, or cracked threads. Was lucky enough to snap one off in the clutch center, so I got to buy a new one of those also. Replaced the cable too as I couldn't take out enough freeplay even with the coarse adjuster.

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Here too. Beat on it. 1/4 mile races, clutch wheels and just bagging on it all round. 100k+ miles, never a slip.

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Change the cable. You may have plenty of slack, but if the clutch return spring can't overcome the sticky cable, then it won't fully engaged the clutch.

I once tied a string to the lower clutch cable connection to test a bad cable on my dirt bike. Sure enough, even after letting out the clutch lever, I would pull on that string and I'd get better grab on the clutch. A new cable fixed it.

Sorry, I responded before watching your video, seems you already checked for this. Is the lever sticky at all? Sometimes we get used to really sticky, stiff lever pulls. Just ask Pvster, you need to have an iron fist to pull his lever.

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Change the cable. You may have plenty of slack, but if the clutch return spring can't overcome the sticky cable, then it won't fully engaged the clutch.

I once tied a string to the lower clutch cable connection to test a bad cable on my dirt bike. Sure enough, even after letting out the clutch lever, I would pull on that string and I'd get better grab on the clutch. A new cable fixed it.

Sorry, I responded before watching your video, seems you already checked for this. Is the lever sticky at all? Sometimes we get used to really sticky, stiff lever pulls. Just ask Pvster, you need to have an iron fist to pull his lever.
i dont even want to know what you two do in private.

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Too bad I'm on my phone, otherwise I would have put the popcorn eating emoticon at the bottom of that post, lol.

I was waiting for a good reply, haha!

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I don't want to get you guys off topic, but aren't clutchless shifts hard on the bike?

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I don't want to get you guys off topic, but aren't clutchless shifts hard on the bike?
ignoring g00gl3's attempts of hitting on me...

Not at all Black919rider. Shifting without a clutch into 3rd and up is very easy and very doable. If you do it wrong (force it) then yes you can do damage.

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Maybe try and milk it for a lil bit and then pull the clutch cover off and decide what you will need. Riding season for us over here is starting to wind down. I'd hate to see you miss out on any riding with a tear down. But if it's real bad which sounds like it might be you might just have to do it.

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So it was the clutch cable the whole time.



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let me guess.... just behind the headlight?

i found mine routed in front of some cross bracket on the lil frame behind the headlight, so that when at 3/4 to full right lock it would bind the clutch cable and started eating at it.

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Yep.

My bike sits out in the rain, so I think water got in there and it gradually rusted in place.

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Change the cable...

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Yeah. Now with the new cable, it feels completely different than it ever did since I bought it. It's so easy to pull now.

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It's so easy to pull now.

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