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Maintenance fuel injection system

Hello guys! I want to do maintenance fuel system and some other next week and i have couple questions:
What need I do?
I think to do next operations:
1. Clean fuel injection
2. Replace fuel filter in tank, it didn't replace after the release of the factory)))
3. Change oil in engine
4. Change spark plugs
5. adjustment valves (need new gasket?)
6. verification of TPS
May be need something else?
Thanks.

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How many miles on the bike?

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Hello guys! I want to do maintenance fuel system and some other next week and i have couple questions:
What need I do?
I think to do next operations:
1. Clean fuel injection
2. Replace fuel filter in tank, it didn't replace after the release of the factory)))
3. Change oil in engine
4. Change spark plugs
5. adjustment valves (need new gasket?)
6. verification of TPS
May be need something else?
Thanks.
1. use some sea foam. add it into your tank and ride like you normally do, done!
2. if your bike has less than 80k miles and/or runs just fine, i wouldn't worry about the fuel filter.
3. do it if you need to.
4. again, do it if you need to. interval is every 8k miles as per the manual but can do 16k.
5. valve adjustment interval is every 16k miles. if you're under 24k miles i wouldnt worry about it.
6. all you can do is verify that it works. you cannot make adjustments or calibrate it. unless you're having problems, i wouldn't worry about it.

here's some extra stuff for you to think about:

lube throttle cables
lube clutch cable
re-grease front/rear axle bolts
re-fill blinker fluid
re-grease swing arm pivot bolt
check front/rear wheel bearings
check brake fluid and replace if needed
re-grease steering bearing
clean/lube chain
clean front/rear brake calipers

i'm sure others can add in more stuff.

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re-fill blinker fluid.

Make sure to clean the reservoir too. Best way to do it is with a bucket of steam

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Make sure your tyres are adequately scrubbed in using the brick or belt sander method.... Ok enough derailing from me

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Make sure to clean the reservoir too. Best way to do it is with a bucket of steam
damnit i was trying to sneak that in there... thanks for blowing the cover off

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Hello guys! I want to do maintenance fuel system and some other next week and i have couple questions:
What need I do?
I think to do next operations:
1. Clean fuel injection
2. Replace fuel filter in tank, it didn't replace after the release of the factory)))
3. Change oil in engine
4. Change spark plugs
5. adjustment valves (need new gasket?)
6. verification of TPS
May be need something else?
Thanks.


Pretty much what everyone else said about all this. But more importantly how many MI you got on the bike? (assuming a 919) The only thing you really need to do is the oil.... the rest of the stuff (1,2,4,5,6) honestly can be forgotten. if under 25k

25k a valve check just for piece of mind as the valves i can pretty much guarentee will all be within spec... and spark plugs just cus.

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Lol...while you guys are busy making jokes, consider that the OP says he's in Moscow. There may be a language barrier issue.




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Lol...while you guys are busy making jokes, consider that the OP says he's in Moscow. There may be a language barrier issue.
I think we're having a geographical issue atm..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow,_Pennsylvania

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I think we're having a geographical issue atm..

Moscow, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Nope he's really in Moscow, Russia

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Nope he's really in Moscow, Russia
LOL!!! But his profile says Pennsylvania... And it is spelled right!

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Hello guys! I want to do maintenance fuel system and some other next week and i have couple questions:
What need I do?
I think to do next operations:
1. Clean fuel injection
2. Replace fuel filter in tank, it didn't replace after the release of the factory)))
3. Change oil in engine
4. Change spark plugs
5. adjustment valves (need new gasket?)
6. verification of TPS
May be need something else?
Thanks.
Others have already talked about 4 & 5.
3 needs no comment.
6, unless you have a PowerCommander, you can't change it, but you can check it.
Unless you have hit and damaged the sensor, you are most likely wasting your time trying to check it.
1 & 2, now this is very interesting to me.
I know nothing about gasoline quality in the Moscow area.
Good quality gasolines in Canada and USA from the big companies, is very good and clean and with very good additive package to keep deposits to a minimum. If your gasoline is similar, then you should not have to clean your F I system or change the fuel filter.
If your bike runs very well, makes good power, gets good kilometres from a tank of gas, idles nice, starts well, then your F I should still be clean. If your plugs look very clean, that is another indication of things being good.
One way to find out about your local gasoline, is to go talk to a BMW car dealer.
They will know about the gasoline that their customers are using.
They may be able to tell you what brand is good local to you, or what to avoid.
If the BMW service department does not have to do fuel injector cleaning of the cars they sell in Moscow, that run on Moscow area gasoline, then you need not worry.
Over here, off brand or "no name" gasoline can be 1) good with weaker additive package, 2) not very good with weak additive package, 3) good with good additive package. Lots of 1 &2, less of 3.

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LOL!!! But his profile says Pennsylvania... And it is spelled right!
I wrote it because it is not listed in Moscow for me.
Ok, my gauge shows 72k km, about 45k miles.
I changed brake fluid (front and rear) and cleaned calipers.
I replaced stem beering
I re-greased front/rear wheel axle bolts
Fuel system:
I decided to do it, because my throttle bad sensetivity and there is a failure.
Before me, no one cleaned the injector and valves adjustment.
lube throttle cables - will do it tomorrow
lube clutch cable - will do it tomorrow
clean/lube chain - done
Couple question:
what is some sea foam? (please give any links)
what is blinker fluid? (it is air filter? changed it)

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I wrote it because it is not listed in Moscow for me.
Ok, my gauge shows 72k km, about 45k miles.
I changed brake fluid (front and rear) and cleaned calipers.
I replaced stem beering
I re-greased front/rear wheel axle bolts
Fuel system:
I decided to do it, because my throttle bad sensetivity and there is a failure.
Before me, no one cleaned the injector and valves adjustment.
lube throttle cables - will do it tomorrow
lube clutch cable - will do it tomorrow
clean/lube chain - done
Couple question:
what is some sea foam? (please give any links)
what is blinker fluid? (it is air filter? changed it)
lol. Blinker fluid is a joke... something that doesnt exist on any vehicle but sounds somewhat good enough to be a vehicle part.

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Fuel system:
I decided to do it, because my throttle bad sensetivity and there is a failure.
Before me, no one cleaned the injector and valves adjustment.
Couple question:
what is some sea foam? (please give any links)
what is blinker fluid? (it is air filter? changed it)
regarding throttle sensitivity, you need to re synch the throttle in-put to the pcIII (very easy to do). next thing to do is when you lube the throttle cables, that'll be a good time to adjust your throttle cables so you have no slack in them.

seafoam: its a fuel system cleaner additive that you add to your fuel. works great! if it is not available in your local area something similar will work just as well. Sea Foam | Motor Treatment | General Content - Motor Treatment

blinker fluid: a joke that is pulled on people who dont know about cars/bikes or wouldn't translate well to another language. in other words, i was just messing with you

so you're at 45k miles, sounds like a good idea to check those valves. you do NOT need to replace the gasket if it's in good condition. be sure to check out the downloadable 919 factory service manual if you need it.

do replace the spark plugs if they're dirty, look old or have an incorrect gap.

i still wouldn't worry about the fuel filter unless you know for certain poor quality fuel is served in your area.

hope this all helps!

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regarding throttle sensitivity, you need to re synch the throttle in-put to the pcIII (very easy to do).
Hello! Sorry, I didn't understand you.
Just pull out and insert the connector to the PC III? sounds pretty easy!

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post #17 of 19 Old 05-31-2012, 12:23 AM
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Hello! Sorry, I didn't understand you.
Just pull out and insert the connector to the PC III? sounds pretty easy!
no. you have to calibrate the throttle input to the pcIII to ensure that the pcIII is reading the correct throttle position. hope that makes better sense.

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no. you have to calibrate the throttle input to the pcIII to ensure that the pcIII is reading the correct throttle position. hope that makes better sense.
You do this within the software, btw. Not sure if that was clear; there is a menu setting to calibrate the throttle at zero and 100 percent.

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Hello! Sorry, I didn't understand you.
Just pull out and insert the connector to the PC III? sounds pretty easy!
You need to use a usb patch cord between the PCIIIusb and a computer that has the PowerCommander software on it.
There is a procedure to follow.
There is a animated tutorial you can get from the P C website. (if you have trouble, PM me your e mail address that accepts attachments and I will send it to you)
The 919 is very easy to do.
Connect the computer to the PC.
Just turn the key to the on position, the engine does not have to be running.
Then do the synching.
The engine does not have to be running.
You do not have to connect a 9 v battery to the PC.
Just turn the key to on, and all will be good being able to synch.

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