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I'm slowly turning into a light nerd. LED, HID, flashlights, fog lights, retrofits, everything. It doesn't matter.

So I'm starting a general lighting thread with links to cool stuff I find. Most of it I havent used so dont hold me responsible, but if you have any experiences with anything post up.

I'm looking to add Aux fog lights to the 919 for, well, fog and my night shift commute through the mountains. Those corners sneak up on you in the dark. Also, I'm in the slow process of converting all lights (minus headlight) to LED. I'm trying to fing the best quality LED bulb supplier I can.

V-LEDS.COM | LED Dome, Map, License Plate, Reverse, DRL, Turn Signal, Brake Lights
I haven't used them, but I've read great things about their products. I would have ordered a complete bulb replacement this week but they are out of stock of the 194 wedge style "flank" bulbs I wanted.

I will update this thread randomly with random stuff.

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I'm looking to run this switch from eastern beaver for my fog lights:
Switches for Motorcycle Electrics, cheap worldwide shipping.
Bar Mount Lighting Switch with Kill/Horn Button (5A)
(2nd one down on page)

It has "off Lo hi" settings and a momentary horn switch. I would wire the momentary to the lights so I have instant on off capabilities while passing drivers in the other direction. I always seem to pass another car right in the middle of a turn and having to switch hi/low back and forth while turning.

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I thought about a complete retrofit to the stock headlight. My only concern was longevity. I don't trust the quality of most HID manufactures and I don't want to replace parts every so often. So I decided to keep the tried and true halogen as a main and just add supporting light.

HID fogs
Blazer Fog Light Stage III Kit - Complete Retrofit Kits from The Retrofit Source Inc

I have a set of HID Aux lights on the truck and they're bright. Super bright. The only downside is the warmup period. Plus, I'm unsure if constant on/off is bad for the units. The cost is pretty reasonable.

LED fogs:
Rigid dually/D2
Dually/D2 LED Lights

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LED Light Bars and Lighting - Vision X USA Home - Vision X USA

Low draw. Tons of light but it seems to be different. It scatters or projects differently IDK. I don't have any experience with LED as a significant light source so I'm really unsure how it will be on the road. I would use two small lights or one large bar. Super expensive.

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tried and true methods

front: watsen design LEDS or rizomas

rear: rizomas and/or CUSTOM LED

headlight: 599 conversion

cant go wrong with the above set up!

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Interesting thread. It will be nice to have a single resource for this information.

With the advent of high wattage single package LED's the possibility of a full LED headlight is looking better and better. I'm in the initial evaluation stage using a 7 element 20 watt LED. The biggest problem is channeling the light properly to retrofit to standard reflectors. At the moment I'm working with profiled light pipes. Looks hopeful.

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sweet rob! keep us updated with your progress.

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tried and true methods

front: watsen design LEDS or rizomas

rear: rizomas and/or CUSTOM LED

headlight: 599 conversion

cant go wrong with the above set up!
Just for the lazy,
Universal LED Signals

Although those are really nice options, they are a little too rich for my blood. Did I mention that I just moved to Cali? My rent physically hurts . I don't know how you guys do it. Anyway...

The 599 headlight is really nice. If I had the cash I would.

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Interesting thread. It will be nice to have a single resource for this information.

With the advent of high wattage single package LED's the possibility of a full LED headlight is looking better and better. I'm in the initial evaluation stage using a 7 element 20 watt LED. The biggest problem is channeling the light properly to retrofit to standard reflectors. At the moment I'm working with profiled light pipes. Looks hopeful.

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More stuff:

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Aztec8 has a nice selection of lighting stuff. Their dual headlights seem better quality than the standard ebay dominators. I could be way off, but it seems.

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They also carry fork tube brackets. I think the OD of the 919 upper forks is 41mm.
Real estate for mounting aux lights is scarce in the headlight area so I thought about mounting down near the caliper or on top of the front fender.

(2) Bar End Mirrors Folding type
I bought these mirrors from ebay awhile ago. If you're looking for a decent set of fold-able bar ends, these have really worked out. These look identical and I haven't seen them on ebay in a year or so.

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The tail light of the 919 is a 194/168 wedge type bulb. I bought a cheap set off ebay years ago but they started to flicker. I think I found why.

The OEM bulb has a thicker "wedge" and the ebay specials are thin. The fleabay bulbs will wiggle around and eventually loose contact. Plus the cheap bulbs have thin wire ends.

So I ordered a set of these while waiting for Vleds stock to replenish:
2 x WHITE T10 168 4 5050 SMD Side Shine LED lights Bulb | eBay
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The Retrofit Source online: headlight upgrades for all applications

I just really like this website. The customer service is awesome and the quality is said to be top notch. Just wish it was all free.

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Just a heads up. Clear alternatives integrated taillight is only $40 on eaby.

Tail Light Integrated LED HONDA 599 919 2002-2007 clear | eBay

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Yes. that's the one you need.

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Just a heads up. Clear alternatives integrated taillight is only $40 on eaby.

Tail Light Integrated LED HONDA 599 919 2002-2007 clear | eBay
Spend the extra coin and get the one specially built for 919's (more specifically, Wristtwisters folks) from CustomeLED. You will NOT be disappointed.

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Spend the extra coin and get the one specially built for 919's (more specifically, Wristtwisters folks) from CustomeLED. You will NOT be disappointed.
Good call. I thought that was a group buy only. But it's not! Ordered.

link to original thread:
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Just install the JW Speaker 8700 LED headlight. I'd love to know if it'll fit in the bucket or not.

Headlights - Products - J.W. Speaker Corporation

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Just install the JW Speaker 8700 LED headlight. I'd love to know if it'll fit in the bucket or not.

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That looks like some quality stuff! Where do I insert my money?

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No kidding! The black bucket on that? SWEEET!

That has to be some serious . Where can I get one?

FOUND IT: http://oviedosafetylights.com/shoppi...oductCategory=




and here: http://www.national4wdonline.com/car...ing=jw+speaker

What is the conversion rate right now, is that any cheaper? lol. This puts it at about $410. cmon people, find it cheaper!

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Yes. that's the one you need.
That thing is cheaper here ( i was led to it in an earlier thread, and it's what i'm using ):
Scroll down to the LF1-S-Flat .. it's $8.95 plus reasonable shipping
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I received my taillight from customLED. I like it. Quality is nice. Miles ahead of the CA kit I had. Plus, the CA kit had already failed. It was 3 years old but less than 10K miles on it.

It is brighter than the CA, and there is no trouble seeing it through a smoked lens. The circuit board is black so it blends into the background a little better. There are fewer LED's then the CA but they are brighter and overall more effective. I think.

The programming is relatively easy. You hook the demo wire to ground to toggle to the desired setting. There are a few different settings to choose from including a "demo" mode (more on that in a minute). Yellow turns, red turns, brake light flash control, and probably more that I'm forgetting.

There are a few downsides for me. The settings are nice to control, but there should be more options. I don't ever need a "demo" mode. I can't think of any time I want my rear light to flicker like a dance party. Ever. I would like to trade my demo mode for real custom programming options.

There is no way to completely disable the flashing brake response, and flashing brake lights irritate me. When I apply the brakes I want the light to just come on. I don't want it to flash 3 or 5 times and then come on. People can argue that it's a safety feature but honestly I think it's confusing for the average public. They can't handle texting and driving and learning new signal responses all at the same time. Minor gripe. My own opinion.

Provided wiring is decent. It's just standard. This kit needs to be hard wired to some extent, there are no ways around it. The CA kit offered a direct plug-in for the bulb socket. There are no plugs on this one, just wire ends. Not hard to do just be aware. Also, I added some hot glue to the connections on the back of the board to protect from the constant buzz of the 919. It was a trick i stole from the CA kit.

That's my short review. I hope it hasn't been too negative. I really like this kit overall I just tend to be very particular about stuff.


Thanks to the WT guys who took the time to have a custom product made and then offering a group buy on top of it. Really, that's awesome. Thanks.
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Anyone here have the Denali LED driving light kit from Twisted Throttle?

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