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post #1 of 15 Old 04-07-2014, 12:19 PM Thread Starter
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Learning the hard way

Snapped double banjo bolt (new SS brake lines) and a broken clutch cable (metal fitting broke off the housing, lever side). These are minor annoyances but they are keeping me off the road this week and it seems to be a reoccurring theme. I always seem to be going two steps forward and one step back whenever I take a wrench to anything. Anyone else have this mechanical/mental deficiency where you must break something once before figure out what you are doing?

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At least you're learning how to work on the bike yourself which matters more. Take your time and use the right tools. If you need to exert so much torque that you break something, you probably need to step back and re-examine.

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I broke a banjo bolt once, too. Come to find out my crappy torque wrench doesn't give very positive torque feedback (the break) when upside down.

It still works great, and now that I know what to look out for, I still use the same wrench, just have to be careful.

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I used to always go for the 3/8" drive ratchet. Nice 9" long handle, fits most every nut and bolt on the bike. Then I discovered that with my 1/4" drive and a 4" handle I can still handle 90% or better of the stuff I do to my bikes. I haven't broken a bolt since!

I do still use a torque wrench where it matters, for what it is worth.

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I have a little 4" long 1/4" drive Snap-On ratchet body that has a 3/8" drive head in it, it keeps me from breaking stuff.


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I guess my next tool purchases should be a good 1/4" ratchet and a torque wrench. Either that or I start replacing all aluminum bolts with steel. On the bright side I get to visit my local Honda dealer for the first time!

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I guess my next tool purchases should be a good 1/4" ratchet and a torque wrench. Either that or I start replacing all aluminum bolts with steel. On the bright side I get to visit my local Honda dealer for the first time!
I have one you can try before you buy if you'd like

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Learning the hard way always sucks.... But they are mistakes you only make once!


Over tightening valve cover bolts:

Buying a cheap chain:

Letting someone ride your bike:

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I guess my next tool purchases should be a good [...] torque wrench.
USE a torque wrench???!!! That's sacrilege

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I just have to say, I love this post. It seems you have good sense of humor about all of this.

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Learning the hard way always sucks.... But they are mistakes you only make once!


Over tightening valve cover bolts:

Buying a cheap chain:

Letting someone ride your bike:

Riding 10 days in a row with little sleep, in the rain, in the mountains, in Mexico (where people stop on the hill to say hi to a cute woman)

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That is exactly the kind of thing that I would do

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Yup, i'm definitely on the learning curve as well. Its funny how some people can get away with throwing things together, and others get screwed if they don't do it exactly right.. and these things can be so ridiculously expensive it's tough to tell what is actually worth it and what is not.

I've done the tired and rainy dump, and rounded my share of screw heads, but it was mostly the POs fault
One was an axle pinch bolt. tried everything on that bugger, finally had to get a stud/nut welded on to it. Now I've invested in a driver screwdriver! hopefully won't have to use it for awhile!

My buddy does auto body for BMW, he's always giving me shit for doing things with the wrong tool or the wrong way.

At least i use a torque wrench though. my other friend slaps things together without torqueing to spec.. refuses to buy a torque wrench.. he rides like such puss though it probably won't matter.
I have the click style wrench, but also picked up a beam torque wrench. which is easier to use; and i just think the concept is the tits. engineer in me geekin out.

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I learned to wrench on old shitty cars. only broke a few bolts before figuring out things the hard way.

The 3/8"s ratchet is still my go-to ratchet, I just don't lean on it. The 1/4" ratchet gets used a little less, but it's good insurance especially for 8mm or 10mm bolts.

Definitely use a torque wrench on your axles!!! I had mine about TWICE as tight as they should've been when I first did my chain. needless to say, it didn't ride quite right till I fiured it out :P

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Definitely use a torque wrench on your axles!!!
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