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post #1 of 23 Old 02-09-2012, 06:09 PM Thread Starter
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Question installing load resistors/turn signals/integrated tail light

Hello everybody!

I just got alot of parts in today:
set of led turn signals
2 simple in line resistors
1 led flasher "LF1-S-FLAT" from superbrightleds.com (for integrated tail light that im still waiting on)
I also had gotten some new flat black daytona style handlebars today....but it fell out of my damn backpack on the highway right after i picked it up (i should have known better.....)

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im going to have 2 led turn signals in the front(left and right), one led integrated tail light in the back, do i need to hook up a resistor for each turn signal as well as the LF1-S-FLAT flasher for the integrated tail light? or should the flasher work for everything? I know nothing about electrical issues and had a large amount of them with my last bike (vx800) which is the main reason why im hesitant to even take the seat off and start splicing wires. I bought the LF1-S-FLAT flasher because its "plug and play" unfortunately I have no idea where to plug it, if anyone has any information that would help me, I would greatly appreciate it.

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You don't need resistors with the flasher unit. Without googling, I'm inclined to say the flasher will plug in under the seat, but you may have to take the tail piece loose to do sit.

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You don't need resistors with the flasher unit. Without googling, I'm inclined to say the flasher will plug in under the seat, but you may have to take the tail piece loose to do sit.
thanks! so the flasher unit should work for the two front signals as well as the tail light?

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Those just replace the stock relay under the seat. Look up in your manual where the flasher relay is and swap. Hyper turn signals solved

And yes, swapping the relay will slow down your flashing for ALL turn signals.

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found a video, I feel dumb starting this thread after seeing how simple it is..for future reference:

Flasher relay install Honda 919 How to. Easy as pie - YouTube


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what brand are the led signals you got for the front?

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what brand are the led signals you got for the front?
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Because Watsen's are the best....
Not the "new" Watsens....

Not to thread jack, but does anyone know what year model 600RR Proton flush mount front turn signals work on the 919. I know a couple of people here have used them, Ferris Bueller and I think a couple of others. Just need to know a year model because there are two different ones.

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Didn't Watsens merge with Clear Alternatives?
Yes, they were clearly better than the alternative....

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Not the "new" Watsens....
exactly... which is why i didnt mention the watsens

however, was curious as the next best thing are rizomas so far and if he got rizomas, i just wanted to be sure he knew about the black boxes. he didn't mention anything about black boxes soo...

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[QUOTE=Pvster;485102]exactly... which is why i didnt mention the watsens

Think people are jerking your chain

I really wanted the Watsen's but you know that whole story

I read where several have put the Proton flush mounts for the 600rr on the 919 but Proton list two different part # for the 600RR and I haven't been able to find out which ones people are using. I am willing to try the Protons on the front to see how they work, just need to know which ones to order.

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exactly... which is why i didnt mention the watsens

Think people are jerking your chain

...only as much as he jerks ours.



And that sounds really dirty....

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Not to thread jack as well, but this black box you guys speak of... is it to keep the front LED turn signals on? I'm looking at going LED as well and was going to do some digging for info, but since we're here already

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Not to thread jack as well, but this black box you guys speak of... is it to keep the front LED turn signals on? I'm looking at going LED as well and was going to do some digging for info, but since we're here already
There is a replacement flasher relay that is a plug and play fix for the flash rate when going to led turn signals.


Custom LED Electronic LED Flasher Blinker Relay - Plug And Play

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I understand that (I replied to the OP saying the exact same).

My understanding is, correct me if I'm wrong, when you go to an LED flasher in the front they don't stay on like the stock bulbs do. So you have less visibility from other drivers by losing your amber running lights.

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I understand that (I replied to the OP saying the exact same).

My understanding is, correct me if I'm wrong, when you go to an LED flasher in the front they don't stay on like the stock bulbs do. So you have less visibility from other drivers by losing your amber running lights.
Correct you "normally" don't have the running lights when you convert to an LED front signal as there are only two wires. Although there are fixes for this issue.

Custom LED Magic Blinker Relay - Convert 2 wire LED blinker to 3 wire

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That's what I need!

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I dont recall the brand, i ordered them from someone in california on ebay. I managed to get the running lights hooked up as well (shown in the front picture) they're very bright
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to keep the running lights on I connected the striped blue/solid blue to positive(red), green to negative(black) on the right side, and striped orange/solid orange to positive, green to negative on the left side

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look to be cheapo very directional blinkers, in other words not very good. do yourself a favor, ditch them and pick up some rizomas.

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to keep the running lights on I connected the striped blue/solid blue to positive(red), green to negative(black) on the right side, and striped orange/solid orange to positive, green to negative on the left side
That will work, but there are two problems with it: first, the rear turn signals will stay on as well which is illegal in most states. Second, the turn indicator bulbs in the instrument cluster will stay on constantly and only flash when the indicators are in use. A bit distracting, especially at night.

A simple cure for both issues:


The top illustration is the stock setup, the second modified.

The diode must be placed as close to the front indicator bullet connectors as possible, otherwise there can be feedback issues.

BTW, the "black box" shipped with some Rizomas and other brands are current buck drivers necessary for proper operation of the high flux LEDs, and must be wired in accordance with the directions they hopefully gave you with the signals. Probably in a dozen languages.

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