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post #1 of 14 Old 07-04-2012, 11:15 AM Thread Starter
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I have yoshi pipes on my 919, do I need a power commander

I have a 2004 Honda 919, I have yoshi pipes. Do I need a power commander? If I get a power commander will I notice any difference? How do I know what map to use

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post #2 of 14 Old 07-04-2012, 11:26 AM
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Look for the "Search\/" icon and have at it - you will get a LOT of opinions and also facts on PC installs, maps, benefits, and problems.

Strictly speaking, you don't need a PC. When I installed one, my goals were to lean the bike out a tad (especially considering that I live at 4300 feet altitude), and to sharpen up the throttle response. Job done - I got what I wanted. What I did not get, nor expect to get, was noticeably more power.

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Get a PowerCommander. Preferably go dyno your bike so you can get a custom map for it. Other wise the PCIII USB (the model you need to buy) has maps on it and a few member have maps they can link you to. Just load a map go for a ride of you like it keep it of not try something else.


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post #4 of 14 Old 07-04-2012, 11:42 AM Thread Starter
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I'm not looking to get better performance, I'm happy with how the bike runs. Rides behiend me complain about my exhaust smell. They think the bike may be running rich? I think it runs fine. That's the only reason I ask about the power commander.

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post #5 of 14 Old 07-04-2012, 12:01 PM
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My experience with a power commander was a waste of money. $600 bike got worse mileage and performed worse. You are at the mercy of the turner to know what they are doing. Took mine off and bike leaned out a little (Hondas are normally rich) performed better and mileage improved.

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I have slip ons. I had a power commander. I sold the power commander. I don't miss it. I still have the slip ons. This is for a 919.

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Do you NEED a PC? No. Will a PC help with the stink? Maybe. I have one and don't really care about the stink, what I LOVE about it is the smoothness of the throttle response, I won't give mine up.

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post #8 of 14 Old 07-04-2012, 04:08 PM Thread Starter
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I dont care about the stink. I just dont understand what the stink means? Someone said that i am blowing raw gas through the pipes and thats why i get the stink? So that scared me into thinking i need a power commander? As long as not running a power commander wont mess up my engine, Im ok without one..... Also thank you to all who responded.

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post #9 of 14 Old 07-04-2012, 04:14 PM
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If you aren't going to dyno tune your bike, do not waste your money on it.
You will proly lose power without a dyno tune + cold start problems and all.


Personal opinion, I have one and I love it... But you need the whole deal to actually give some power to your bike... Air filter, exhaust and pc. About the air filter you can get different opinions from experienced riders and mechanics some say it's good some bad but keep in mind all the pro race bikes got em...

About the stink issue, once you mount the pc and install maps, you bike will consume more air and/or fuel so you get a heavier smell, which is already a problem without any upgrades in most under tail exhaust bikes.

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I have an '03 all stock and an '06 with Yosh pipes. Neither has a PC installed. I have no stink. Outside of idle growl of the slipons and their better sound when you get on it in the power band, I cannot tell a difference in performance.

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My 919 was positively transformed once I had the PC3 on and nicely mapped with my Yosh TRSs. Some of the best money I spent on the bike. I tried the Erion map, which was not very good. Next I tried LDH's Moriwaki based v-4 map, which was very good and more than good enough. I then got a custom map done, which ended up really being some slight tweaking of the LDH map. I consider myself very picky on fueling, want, and got, mapping from top to bottom that will let me crawl at idle in 1st and use nothing but throttle with really nice control - the opposite of what it was like before the PC3 and good mapping.

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Thank you everyone for all the helpfull info

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post #13 of 14 Old 07-05-2012, 09:02 AM
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I'm with Mcromo all the way. I tend to think that those who do a lot of inner city riding and/or require fine throttle control/feedback are the ones who benefit most from a PCIII and tuning.

With that said, I won't give mine up! I had the terrible cold start issue and had to learn to live with it. Now I think I've figured out a work-around to avoid the cold start issue, but cannot get anyone to test my theory and report back.

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I dont have an issue per say I just thumb the starter and a quick snap of the trhottle and the bike is fine. Other times I dont need to snap....

What I do need to do is go get a custom dyno for my Delks, K&N and the elevation.

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