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ok... noticed everyday when i checked the oil before i ride the oil level appeared to be rising..... wtf?!?!?!!.... so i decided to drain a bit out and see whats up with it...
it smells of gasoline......
my gas mileage has also been getting worse and worse per tank...
i have 1500 miles on the vfr now and this is some major bullshiit...
anyway i drained the oil... and put a fresh dose of castrol (because its cheap and i will be changing it again shortly) making sure that i kept the oil level towards the lower of the 2 lines in the sight glass.....
my question being.... has any one of you experienced this on a non carb bike... and if so what was the culprit....
i will be on the phone with the dealership tomorrow and i ain't happy about this one little focking bit....
i don't know if its a stuck ring? (i doubt it... no smoke.)
or wtf is going on....
p.s. there was no oil in the water or water in the oil... just gas..
it smells of gasoline......
my gas mileage has also been getting worse and worse per tank...
i have 1500 miles on the vfr now and this is some major bullshiit...
anyway i drained the oil... and put a fresh dose of castrol (because its cheap and i will be changing it again shortly) making sure that i kept the oil level towards the lower of the 2 lines in the sight glass.....
my question being.... has any one of you experienced this on a non carb bike... and if so what was the culprit....
i will be on the phone with the dealership tomorrow and i ain't happy about this one little focking bit....
i don't know if its a stuck ring? (i doubt it... no smoke.)
or wtf is going on....
p.s. there was no oil in the water or water in the oil... just gas..
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How the heck does fuel get in the oil on an injected bike? One cylinder not firing? Leaking injector? Has it been running rough?
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How the heck does fuel get in the oil on an injected bike? One cylinder not firing? Leaking injector? Has it been running rough?
last 3 tanks tho the gas mileage has gone to shiit...
i was making 180 miles before the light came on... with 100 miles being indicated 1/2 tank....
this tank it hit 1/2 tank at 80 miles.... i am not speeding or beating on it... i have behaved myself for the last ~400 miles...
the only thing i can think of is maybe a stuck ring??? but no smoke....

and it does run hot... but all i can find on the (crappy) vfr sites is that these bikes tend to run a bit hot....
i can live with the hot.... i cannot deal with gas in the oil....
i drained it and put fresh oil.... i will monitor it tomorrow and if i see any leakage it is going to the dealership and we are gonna have a nice conversation....
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Chit... no idea about the injected bikes... seem to remember on the Carbed ones to always shut the gas off when you were done ridin, especially if it was a long stop/garaged.... I'd raise Caine at the dealer, either way, hope it's a quik fix... nothin worse than having down time on a new bike.
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that sucks...hope its a simple fix...try pulling plugs in the morning see how they look and smell ,,,might narrow down what area the problem is
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i will monitor it tomorrow and if i see any leakage it is going to the dealership and we are gonna have a nice conversation....
I'm sure they will get you taken care of.
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Damn, sorry to hear the new bike is giving you probs. Hope its a simple fix.

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That little dude that runs around making your 3 way switches and refrigerator light work probably got stuck inside your bike dude, little man needs your help.
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Here is my guess...
Sounds like a leaking injector. Nothing will happen when it is running, but when off the injector leaks into the cylinder where we all know, standing liquid will find a way to seep past the rings and into your oil.
Sounds like a leaking injector. Nothing will happen when it is running, but when off the injector leaks into the cylinder where we all know, standing liquid will find a way to seep past the rings and into your oil.
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Here is my guess...
Sounds like a leaking injector. Nothing will happen when it is running, but when off the injector leaks into the cylinder where we all know, standing liquid will find a way to seep past the rings and into your oil.
Sounds like a leaking injector. Nothing will happen when it is running, but when off the injector leaks into the cylinder where we all know, standing liquid will find a way to seep past the rings and into your oil.
like i said at 2:30 when i get off work i will run it to the dealership and get it checked out....
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Be cool Brian, they didn't assemble the engine or machine the parts.
I'm sure they will get you taken care of.
I'm sure they will get you taken care of.
the service writers excel in explaining how there is nothing wrong with the bike that is covered by the warranty...lol...
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Here is my guess...
Sounds like a leaking injector. Nothing will happen when it is running, but when off the injector leaks into the cylinder where we all know, standing liquid will find a way to seep past the rings and into your oil.
Sounds like a leaking injector. Nothing will happen when it is running, but when off the injector leaks into the cylinder where we all know, standing liquid will find a way to seep past the rings and into your oil.
That would explain the rough running on initial start up. Gas builds up in the intake and right on top of the intake valves when it's off. When it is refired, it's got to burn all that excess gas just sitting there.
If the engine happens to stop rotating and an intake valve stays open at last engine cut off (which is usually always gonna happen) then the gas will build up on top of the piston and could be getting passed the rings if it sits long enough and then right into the crank case.
Good luck Brian. Hopefully it's not major.




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This may be a dumb question, but I think it is worth asking. If that much fluid is getting set on top of even one cylinder while off, I would think it would turn over VERY hard, or hydro-lock altogether.
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This may be a dumb question, but I think it is worth asking. If that much fluid is getting set on top of even one cylinder while off, I would think it would turn over VERY hard, or hydro-lock altogether.
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sounds like all is right with the world
seriously, injector stuck open, question is WHY is the injector stuck open and is it the same injector???
sells 919
buys VFR
mocks 919
VFR suffers sudden, inexplicable breakdown
sounds like all is right with the world

seriously, injector stuck open, question is WHY is the injector stuck open and is it the same injector???
Stuck injector is the culprit for sure, and if conditions are right it is possible to experience hydrolock, bending valves and even connecting rods in a motor. Ive seen that happen in a detroit diesel engine, and a snowmobile once. Its not very likely though, I would be more worried about Engine damage caused by the gas diluted oil, sounds like you caught it pretty quick and changed it though. That bike needs to go back to the dealer, they need to do a leakdown test on the fuel injection system. Bike should be fine if the replace the injector, and should get your fuel mileage back
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Stuck injector is the culprit for sure, and if conditions are right it is possible to experience hydrolock, bending valves and even connecting rods in a motor. Ive seen that happen in a detroit diesel engine, and a snowmobile once. Its not very likely though, I would be more worried about Engine damage caused by the gas diluted oil, sounds like you caught it pretty quick and changed it though. That bike needs to go back to the dealer, they need to do a leakdown test on the fuel injection system. Bike should be fine if the replace the injector, and should get your 919 back

everyone with stuck injector problems on the 919, raise your hands !!!
anyone ??!?!
no mercy

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owns 919
sells 919
buys VFR
mocks 919
VFR suffers sudden, inexplicable breakdown
sounds like all is right with the world
seriously, injector stuck open, question is WHY is the injector stuck open and is it the same injector???
sells 919
buys VFR
mocks 919
VFR suffers sudden, inexplicable breakdown
sounds like all is right with the world

seriously, injector stuck open, question is WHY is the injector stuck open and is it the same injector???
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fixed it... 
everyone with stuck injector problems on the 919, raise your hands !!!
anyone ??!?!
no mercy

everyone with stuck injector problems on the 919, raise your hands !!!
anyone ??!?!
no mercy


this bike was in stock for 922 days before i bought it.... thats a long time to sit there....
i also have a slight surging at cruising speed... monday the injectors will be cleaned/replaced...
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fixed it... 
everyone with stuck injector problems on the 919, raise your hands !!!
anyone ??!?!
no mercy

everyone with stuck injector problems on the 919, raise your hands !!!
anyone ??!?!
no mercy

You'll get it straight though bro...don't sweat it




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Man Brian...He's being ruff on ya ... Tough crowd.
You'll get it straight though bro...don't sweat it
You'll get it straight though bro...don't sweat it
i loved the 919 while i had it... i love the vfr now that i have it..
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i aint' worried about it one bit...
i loved the 919 while i had it... i love the vfr now that i have it..
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i loved the 919 while i had it... i love the vfr now that i have it..
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I know the feeling. I felt the same way about all my previous bikes. I tell ya, after test riding that 954 the other night, it made me miss my RC a little...Wish I had 4500 laying around to throw at that bike. It sure is nice and my friend has yet to get up with me today to go back and look at it with him?






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I know the feeling. I felt the same way about all my previous bikes. I tell ya, after test riding that 954 the other night, it made me miss my RC a little...Wish I had 4500 laying around to throw at that bike. It sure is nice and my friend has yet to get up with me today to go back and look at it with him?
I guess he doesn't want a bike as bad as I thought he did 



two things that may have caused your prob....... using anything but normal premium oil until the bike was broke in (at least 1500-2000 miles) the bike just doesn't need synthetic oil until it gets some miles on it.. using any fuel treatment ( injector cleaner ) what ever ... In a car yea i would consider it... not a bike ... just nice clean gas with the octane that is spec for that bike .. I'm not saying you did ether of these things just saying if it was me I would not do it ....



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The enricher could be stuck too -
Hopefully the dealer does not screw it up worse........
Good luck, and be sure to keep the records of the warranty repair in case the bike starts using oil down the road, due to washed rings.
Hopefully the dealer does not screw it up worse........
Good luck, and be sure to keep the records of the warranty repair in case the bike starts using oil down the road, due to washed rings.
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man if he wants a gizzer after the talkin to i gave him ... them... thats just sad 

Talked to him tonight...Found out he is now short a little on the funds...Said he should have it worked out next week. We'll see. Hate to see him miss out on that bike.




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Did they fix it????
Sorry your having trouble with the new ride, heres hoping the dealer fixes it.
Dan
p.s. RD's probably right, it's just the Universe balancing itself, when a 9er gets cast aside a VFR injector starts leaking, you just happened to be touched by both bikes involved in this little cosmic dance.
Dan
p.s. RD's probably right, it's just the Universe balancing itself, when a 9er gets cast aside a VFR injector starts leaking, you just happened to be touched by both bikes involved in this little cosmic dance.



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What, a Honda has an issue ? 

My horribly unreliable Itallian bike is running fine ! 


But really, what was the fix ? It cant be a whole lot of options, only one way for fuel to get in there --






But really, what was the fix ? It cant be a whole lot of options, only one way for fuel to get in there --
Did someone kick it over at a light? That might cause problems. Maybe they were afraid you would beat their 9er.
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I heard from him... ends up the VFR was to much to comprehend for him, so he was actually putting the gas into the oil fill. Hence the horrible gas mileage and the fuel in the oil.
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I heard from him... ends up the VFR was to much to comprehend for him, so he was actually putting the gas into the oil fill. Hence the horrible gas mileage and the fuel in the oil.
I like Brian .......... I like Brian enough that I'm not gonna poke a stick at him when hes down.. hes probably very upset over the issue and if he wants to share he will share ... Best of luck to ya Brian ....



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I like Brian .......... I like Brian enough that I'm not gonna poke a stick at him when hes down.. hes probably very upset over the issue and if he wants to share he will share ... Best of luck to ya Brian ....

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simple problem like that will takes weeks ..they will need the ok from honda to change anything...may of been better off leaving the gas in the oil..im guessing three weeks
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sorry ya'll... its been a chitty week at work...
anyway... i put some b-12 chemtool in the tank and ran the living piss out of it.... that seems to have improved both problems i was having...
if it recurs i will bring it in and they will replace all the injectors.......
the only "issue" this honda has was sitting in stock in the storage area for 922 days before i bought it...
someone here let their bike sit up for that long with gas in it and see if they experience problems...
anyway thanks to all for the concerns about me and the bike...
i am very tired ya'll and in the last week or so my hair has went from 70% gray to 85%.....
its been a chitty week........
anyway... i put some b-12 chemtool in the tank and ran the living piss out of it.... that seems to have improved both problems i was having...
if it recurs i will bring it in and they will replace all the injectors.......
the only "issue" this honda has was sitting in stock in the storage area for 922 days before i bought it...
someone here let their bike sit up for that long with gas in it and see if they experience problems...
anyway thanks to all for the concerns about me and the bike...
i am very tired ya'll and in the last week or so my hair has went from 70% gray to 85%.....
its been a chitty week........
why would they leave gas in it, that was dumb. bikes site forever all the time and dont have issues like that, though we are told to change the oil in bikes b4 the sale if they are more than 2 yrs old, did they change your oil b4 you bought it. oh and that includes coolant brake and clutch fluid. bet they did not.
oh and not tring to piss anyone off with the above statement, just what is required by honda is all.
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oh and not tring to piss anyone off with the above statement, just what is required by honda is all.
but when they are assembled they put gas... just enough to move the bikes from point a to points b and c... (too far to push them)...
they will make it right for me that i have no doubt... i just don't wanna leave it there overnight.. cause i am weird about who works on my stuff..... i wanna be there and have the tech i want to fix it ... not who they think needs the hours...
i thought you knew me well enough by now to know i don't care about pissing people off... they can get happy in the same shoes they got mad in....

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they can get happy in the same shoes they got mad in.... 




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