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post #1 of 216 Old 10-15-2012, 11:33 PM Thread Starter
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Gsxr fighter.....cont. upgrades? Mods?

Well with my gixxr fighter build mostly done I gave up on the "wreck gixxr rebuild" thread(mods close if you want), so I moving on to upgrades and modifications.

My most plaguing issue was the threat of water in the SRAD intakes, mike was concerned about my rain blockers also blocking air flow, no worries they've been rain tested now and they work great, it doesn't respond quite as fast but I can live with that, pic belowImageUploadedByTapatalk1350367809.423267.jpg

Now my gauges didn't fare so well, both oil and temp are shot with rust colored water dripping from them, the were a complete failure!
I also had to quickly WD-40 my starter button controls and seal them with RVT as well as the light/signal switches, they were tweeked a little and were quickly filling with water, but for the most part she's doin good, now I know an I wrecked bike wouldn't have these issues but being that I'm a cheap ass I decided to rebuild a wrecked bike so I have to deal with it

The new yoshi pipe is working out great!, I shortened it 3" for the desired look and it has quieted the bike alot, no more can it be heard for miles it also gave it this cool sounding growl on the decel.
I robbed the hand guards off the DRZ and they slipped right on the fighter

So I have a couple questions #1 will a 530 chain fit my gixxr? Is there any benefit on this bike? Would I have to change sprocket?(guess that was more like 3)

#2- most 4 cylinders I've listen to are smooth running with a straight purrrr, my 750 has a sort of "lope" to it at an idle, do you think there's something wrong with it? Or is this normal? Cam-ed?

Any way this is the next chapter, I'll try not to be too much of the pestering suzuki guy, and thanks for the help in the last thread :-)

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Holy crap!!! I just had a guy offer me $2400 for the GixMix, I knew it was cool but I didn't think it was $2400 cool!!! But damnit I don't really want to sell it, I just posted it figuring no one would pay any mind to it, it's suppose to be ugly and obnoxious....a face that only a father could love....what have I done!!!!? PLEASE forgive me little gixxr...shit, who am I kidding this asshole is most likely a scammer, I've already had 2 scammers on the gixxr and 3 on the Zuma

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Sell it if he offered you $2400 cash dude... Take the cash and sink it into a new project with money in your pocket!

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Sell it if he offered you $2400 cash dude... Take the cash and sink it into a new project with money in your pocket!
Damn it PV!! You're right, but this is NOT what i needed from you.....tell me to keep it! Tell me it's my first fighter...Something, anything! I don't want to sell it but I know I should............so WTF!? If I sell it where do I go from here?

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Damn it PV!! You're right, but this is NOT what i needed from you.....tell me to keep it! Tell me it's my first fighter...Something
Yeah it is.. the new project would be a 919 since you could easily afford one then...

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I would say take the money and run - you have found a fool wishing to be separated from his money.

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Everyone remembers their first time-bike/girl/etc-for sure...

But is that the one you would still want to be with or have??

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Yeah it is.. the new project would be a 919 since you could easily afford one then...
But what if the 919 feels like a step down from the 750? Now take it easy! I'm just sayin if that was the case I'd be kickin myself all the way to work and back...I'm sure the 9 would be an awesome upgrade on the comfort side in which the gixxr is definately lacking, but what about going form 130hp to 97hp? What am I suppose to do about that?? I like being able to go from 6th to 4th and. Rocket past cagers at 120mph+(ok I'm drinkin right now so what) it's still true, and I'm sorry I've rode 919's they are the pinnacle of the "perfect bike" but they WILL NOT out run a gsxr 750 anywhere, period!...ok ok I'm done, and fuck both of them, there's a 1999 1100xx blackbird on CL right now for $2900, have you seen it?

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Just .02 here, but I have a buddy with a 2002 gixr 750, power commander and full Arrow exhaust that dynos at about 127 horse, and that's working well, not restricted at all. (He also has a versys and oddly isn't a DB either, 41 yrs old and director of a large casino. Stereotype broken)

With the torque that my 2002 919 has, plus ive been riding a little while longer, I can turn faster laps on the track and leave him in the street short of a top blast on open interstate.

If you love that baby you made that much, then you have your answer man! Have another drink, enjoy the fact that its in the garage, and alls good!! Can't wait to see which way you go! Good on ya.

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Wha?! You gotta shift down from 6th to 4th just to be able to pass someone at 120 mph? Now that's funny considering all I gotta do is hammer the throttle. Downshifting is optional

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Hate to tell you this, but the way you have that rigged you aren't making any 130+ HP. You're probably putting down something close to what the 919 makes - the 919 is rated at 110 at the crank, 102 at the wheel and does not rely on ram air. You yourself admit that your rain blockers make it even slower.

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Just .02 here, but I have a buddy with a 2002 gixr 750, power commander and full Arrow exhaust that dynos at about 127 horse, and that's working well, not restricted at all. (He also has a versys and oddly isn't a DB either, 41 yrs old and director of a large casino. Stereotype broken)

With the torque that my 2002 919 has, plus ive been riding a little while longer, I can turn faster laps on the track and leave him in the street short of a top blast on open interstate.

If you love that baby you made that much, then you have your answer man! Have another drink, enjoy the fact that its in the garage, and alls good!! Can't wait to see which way you go! Good on ya.
Thank you Moto!!! THAT is what I needed, and yes I really do love this bike, I'm by no means qualified to ride such a machine and yes I push it way past my skill level, thus the ignorance I had in another thread about this bike eating tires...it's not so much the bike it's my dumb ass riding it like my DRZ and not realizing how far I'm leaning it over,heavier,shorter and more than happy to destroy tires, at times I have to ask myself.... Who is the real teacher? The instructor? Or the bike?....mind you, one is less forgiving than the other.

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I smoked a 750 once on a quarter mile stretch of highway heading in to town. At the first stoplight he flips his lid open and astoundidly asks "What IS that thing?!"


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I smoked a 750 once on a quarter mile stretch of highway heading in to town. At the first stoplight he flips his lid open and astoundidly asks "What IS that thing?!"

Hmmm...he must of had an off day or a fouled plug or something

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Hmmm...he must of had an off day or a fouled plug or something
If we'd had room to stretch legs out past 110 or so yeah, he would have caught up and passed me due to aerodynamics.

But no. He was WOT the entire time.

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Hate to tell you this, but the way you have that rigged you aren't making any 130+ HP. You're probably putting down something close to what the 919 makes - the 919 is rated at 110 at the crank, 102 at the wheel and does not rely on ram air. You yourself admit that your rain blockers make it even slower.
Omg! Lets get technical just havin some fun, talkin a little smack

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Here they are next to each other....
Love this pic, this would be my dream team!!! Those are a couple of beautiful girls

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Omg! Lets get technical just havin some fun, talkin a little smack
Come to think of it, your GSXR-OMGWTFBBQ build is probably going to be slower than the 919 until you start getting into the triple digits...

Edit: Now that I've gotten another good look at those 'rain blockers' - a LOT slower.

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Love this pic, this would be my dream team!!! Those are a couple of beautiful girls
Thanks. In that case, here's a little more bike porn for you! Who doesn't like a little Italian thrown in with their Japanese?

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Thanks. In that case, here's a little more bike porn for you! Who doesn't like a little Italian thrown in with their Japanese?
That's a sweet line up Moto! Thanks for sharing I could stare at those pics all day


CB, I'm sure you're right about all of it, and I'm by no means good at riding this...what did you call it? An "OMGWTFBBQ" I really just try to enjoy it and not get myself killed so until I'm able to scrape together enough money to get a decent bike I have to be happy with what I have, it was dirt cheap and didn't turn out all that bad, atleast I think so....but maybe I'm wrong

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CB, I'm sure you're right about all of it, and I'm by no means good at riding this...what did you call it? An "OMGWTFBBQ" I really just try to enjoy it and not get myself killed so until I'm able to scrape together enough money to get a decent bike I have to be happy with what I have, it was dirt cheap and didn't turn out all that bad, atleast I think so....but maybe I'm wrong
1. You 'talk smack,' don't be surprised to get it in return. With interest. And a bonus.
2. Some utter fool has already offered you enough money to dump the Frankensuz (you yourself have mentioned numerous problems that are going to cost money to fix) and get a 'real' bike. Which is about $1400 more than that thing is generously worth. Why you are not taking this offer when you state the objective is to get money to buy a 'real bike' is something I cannot comprehend. Especially because...
3. A 919 can be had for about what that guy is offering for your poor abused Suz.

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1. You 'talk smack,' don't be surprised to get it in return. With interest. And a bonus.
2. Some utter fool has already offered you enough money to dump the Frankensuz (you yourself have mentioned numerous problems that are going to cost money to fix) and get a 'real' bike. Which is about $1400 more than that thing is generously worth. Why you are not taking this offer when you state the objective is to get money to buy a 'real bike' is something I cannot comprehend. Especially because...
3. A 919 can be had for about what that guy is offering for your poor abused Suz.
Yeah the dude backed out to buy a car, but thanks for the lecture, that went in one ear and out the other

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Yeah the dude backed out to buy a car, but thanks for the lecture, that went in one ear and out the other
That's fine, I didn't expect anything better from someone who stuck a cork in his intake.

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That's fine, I didn't expect anything better from someone who stuck a cork in his intake.
you said intake...

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Yup. And your 'rain blockers' are basically intake corks.

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Hey can I put the headlights from pretty much any bike on this thing? Or is there voltage differences?

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Holy crap!!!! The gix tried to kill on the way home! Going into turn 2 of Swedetown rd right after city limits she almost went down!....crap why didn't you guys tell me these things suck in the rain J/k...I was about half way through the corner when the front tire WASHED I was already going slow so I planted my right leg and tried to straighten...it caught! And instantly I was now sliding sideways, I got her back under control and inched along in second gear until my aching leg eased up a bit, WTF! This this is NOT a foul wether bike, I couldn't believe how easily the front disappeared on me, I'm very disappointed in the gix, the DRZ would NEVER treat me like that

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What kinda tire whip? You sure you didn't hit a patch of something?
This and This. Its all about tires and keeping your inputs smooth.

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What kinda tire whip? You sure you didn't hit a patch of something?

It's a michilen Sportec, had about 400 miles on it when I got and has probably 5-600 more now, the road was totally clean unlike most of the back road to my house which is covered with maple/alder leaves and fir needles, and I was in the middle of my lane so I didn't hit the line(found out about those on the DRZ)

As for what PV said, I think I was pretty smooth and just beginning to accel. Out of the turn, but like I said this was still slow maybe 25-30 mph(I think)

Scary shit on that thing, the tires composition feels really soft compared to my Drz's ravens, the Sportec feels good when it's dry but flat out gave up on the wet pavement, this road is bad news, yesterday I had a coyote run right under my back tire, fuckin dogs! I didn't mention that because I'm trying to break my bad luck streak, thinkin maybe if I just don't talk about it, but today was too much to hold in

Anyway thanks for the replies, I'll just have to be super careful, I have MUCH to learn about the gix

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Don't you mean a Metzeler Sportec?

If so, the problem isn't the tire.


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It's supposed to be really good in the wet.

So is its predecessor:

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Also, your DRZ can and will do that to you, depending on how worn those Shinkos get.

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Make sure you have enough air in the tires to keep the sipes open, there's the idea that lowering pressure even further in the wet will get you more traction when really it closes the threads when the tire conforms and promotes hydroplaning. Just a thought, otherwise not sure man. If you're in the center of a lane there may be a thin layer of oil the rain brought up you can't see

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Make sure you have enough air in the tires to keep the sipes open, there's the idea that lowering pressure even further in the wet will get you more traction when really it closes the threads when the tire conforms and promotes hydroplaning. Just a thought, otherwise not sure man. If you're in the center of a lane there may be a thin layer of oil the rain brought up you can't see
I've got about 40lbs front and back...maybe I did hit a leaf or something I didn't see, either way I just felt the speed was to low for it to give like that, it has me kinda nervous now, this morning the road was covered with needles and I split a family of 6 coons, the DRZ would have never let that happen either it always chased the critters off the road for me hope the shop finishes my wife's car soon!

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40 seems a little high, what does Suz spec?

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40 seems a little high, what does Suz spec?

The 750 service manual states ...

36 psi front & rear for solo rider
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36 sounds about right. I run 36f/37r in the winter and 32/33 in the summer.
I know 1 psi can make a diffrence but at 40psi I'm right in the ballpark

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Actually, you're over pressure by more than 10%...

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