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Grips: glue or safety wire?

I've always used safety wire for the dirt, glue and safety wire for my race Sea-Doo's. What do you guys recommend for the street/track?

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post #2 of 34 Old 07-28-2008, 07:07 PM
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I ride street and mx track / trails & don't use either one (for either application) - never had any problems.


...but I've never been on an enclosed road course - so I can't help you there.

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I use both for all bikes.

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Clear coat paint. I use it for off-road(+ safety wire) & street (no wire)
It allows the grip to slip on like grease & locks the grip better than glue.

Spray some on the bar or throttle tube & some in the grip (at the opening) then slip it on & adjust as needed.

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I use hairspray on the street bike and used Hairspray and safety wire on my track bikes.

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OK Are you guys trying to be funny or is that what you really use?

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I really use hairspray.

If you just squirt a little on, the grip will slide on easy.
When it dries, it is sticky.
To get the grip off, just spray some Hairspray on a small screwdriver, slide it under the grip and do one revolution aroudn the bar, the grip will slide right off.

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I'm not kidding either.

Hair spray works! just not when it gets wet.
It tends to loosen a little in high humidity. At least for me, it did.

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I'll try the spray paint tomorrow; then I should be good to go for Streets of Willow this Sunday.

Next up is the Race Tech emulators and springs, after the track day.

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Don't use the fru-fru hairspray either. Buy the cheap stuff. Rave, Aqua-net, cheapest you can find. It works like a charm.

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OK Are you guys trying to be funny or is that what you really use?
No, all are real and work. I've tried all the above stated with good success. My favorite is 3M adhesive spray and compressed air. Spray the bar or throttle lightly, start the grip, insert the air nozzle, squeeze gently for light pressure and slip right on. Let stay overnight ... perfect. I haven't had a need for safety wire. To remove the grip just lift an edge of the grip, insert air nozzle, blast air and pull off.

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Thanks for all the help. I'm looking forward to changing the grips after work; I'll figure out which method to use.

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I really use hairspray.

If you just squirt a little on, the grip will slide on easy.
When it dries, it is sticky.
To get the grip off, just spray some Hairspray on a small screwdriver, slide it under the grip and do one revolution aroudn the bar, the grip will slide right off.
That's an old bmx grip install trick.

I wouldn't trust it when it comes to bigger machines though.

I just installed some new grips on my SM over the weekend. I went ahead and used "Renthal Grip Glue." Surprisingly, it worked great!

Make sure that you don't get any glue stuck between the "throttle tube & handlebar." I had to go back after the glue/grip dried and cleaned-up the glue between the tube & handlebar because the throttle wasn't returning as crisply as it should've. No big deal though. The glue comes right off like "hardened booger" from your nose.

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Six years of track riding and I only had a grip slip once (in the rain). I came in and safety wired it. Never a problem again.

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Paint and hairspray are both time tested methods of installing grips.
Ridge is right about the cheap hairspray, I think theres more lacquer in it than the expensive stuff.
As far as paint is concerned, I would use a clear acrylic enamel like Krylon "crystal clear". Dries fast and is water proof.
I would use safety wire.

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Its not lacquer in the hairspray that makes it work, it's poly-vinyl alcohol. I've also used it as a mold release for laying up fiberglass. It's also water soluble, that's why it may loosen up in high humidity conditions, but it also allows you to put some water under the grips if you want to remove them without damage.

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Its not lacquer in the hairspray that makes it work, it's poly-vinyl alcohol. I've also used it as a mold release for laying up fiberglass. It's also water soluble, that's why it may loosen up in high humidity conditions, but it also allows you to put some water under the grips if you want to remove them without damage.
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Its not lacquer in the hairspray that makes it work, it's poly-vinyl alcohol. I've also used it as a mold release for laying up fiberglass. It's also water soluble, that's why it may loosen up in high humidity conditions, but it also allows you to put some water under the grips if you want to remove them without damage.
That makes sense as lacquer isn't water soluble. I knew it had to be someting, I just didn't know what.

Thanks for the heads-up OFG.

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Ok, here's my stupid question of the day:

How do you safety wire the grips? Does that involve drilling holes?

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No drilling, just the wrapping of the grip with a thin (usually .032) Diameter stainless steel wire and twisting the ends tight, clipping the end to about 3/16 of an inch and then bending it over and out of the way.
You will usually do this right next to the grip flange and again at about 1 inch in from the end. Some guys will give it a wrap in the middle as well.

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No drilling, just the wrapping of the grip with a thin (usually .032) Diameter stainless steel wire and twisting the ends tight, clipping the end to about 3/16 of an inch and then bending it over and out of the way.
You will usually do this right next to the grip flange and again at about 1 inch in from the end. Some guys will give it a wrap in the middle as well.
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I wrap the middle of the grip too. Some grips, like Renthal, have a groove next to the flange for safety wiring.

I used Krylon "Fusion For Plastic" spraypaint(used it for painting the flyscreen).
Fusion is the no-prep, superbond paint from Krylon.

I was planning on safety wiring also but the paint bonded good enough to hold all day at the Streets.

I'll report in a few months on how it's holding up.

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Simply. . .glue AND safety wire.

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how does the honda/xxx factory do it?

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Don't use the fru-fru hairspray either. Buy the cheap stuff. Rave, Aqua-net, cheapest you can find. It works like a charm.
It's scary that you would know what hairsprays are the "fru-fru" ones!

I safety wire the track bike grips.

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It's scary that you would know what hairsprays are the "fru-fru" ones!

I safety wire the track bike grips.

I just looked at the assortment you left on the bathroom counter at Deal's.

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It's been over two weeks since I changed the grips and the paint is still holding up. I might safety wire it before the next track day though.

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I use hairspray on the street bike and used Hairspray and safety wire on my track bikes.
what he said!

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Has anyone ever really had a grip come off? I've never seen that happen.

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Has anyone ever really had a grip come off? I've never seen that happen.

No, but I've had some that twisted around when they were glued with no safety wire.

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Those babies arn't going anywhere!

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I use hairspray, grip slides on and holds really well....

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