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Galfer SS line's install...Help

Getting ready to do a few upgrades to my RC over the winter and one of them is SS brake lines. I picked up a used set over the weekend but I need a longer Banjo Bolt for the front where the two lines connect to my Master Cylinder (the bolt was not supplied with the lines)...Any suggestions on where I could find the Banjo Bolt I need???

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The kit should have come with one - Id get on the phone with Galfer and see if they can send you one . http://www.galferusa.com/html/contact.html
Im not sure of where one might be able to find one loose, seeing as how its a pretty specialized piece, but, if you could find out where , this is the place to ask.

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Give the good folks at G&J a call. Tell them you are a WT member.
You need a 10mm x 1.25mm x 30mm long dual banjo fitting for the master cylinder. Verify the threads on your RC master cylinder are 10mm x 1.25.

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Is this what you are looking for? You may want to get dimensions from someone. DennisKirk.com has a large selection of these.



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Excellent...Thanks. Checking with a local shop...possibly may have what I need but if not I will use this info.


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Give the good folks at G&J a call. Tell them you are a WT member.
You need a 10mm x 1.25mm x 30mm long dual banjo fitting for the master cylinder. Verify the threads on your RC master cylinder are 10mm x 1.25.
hey mike.. you remember off the top of your head how much they charge for a set of ss brake lines... there is a local company here but he's kinda proud of his.... thanks



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hey mike.. you remember off the top of your head how much they charge for a set of ss brake lines... there is a local company here but he's kinda proud of his.... thanks
Check out our sticky thread. G&J prices are hard to beat. Turn around time is less than a day.

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Rear line installed tonight


Further tear down for other stuff over the winter


Going to see if I can get the Dual Banjo Bolt I need for the front lines tomorrow...If not I guess I'll be ordering one. Thanks for the help


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post #10 of 32 Old 11-26-2008, 07:34 PM Thread Starter
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Picked up a banjo bolt today that seems to have done the trick...I'll know for sure after I finish bleading the brakes...I forgot to get brake fluid on my way home so I couldn't finish it


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Did you install the washers right? Hard to tell from the pic. Should go

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Yes...There is a cruch washer between each line...In the middle there are silver color washers so it's hard to see them(cell phone pics too, sorry)This bolt was from something else and two crush washers had to be used at the begining to get them to line up correctly with the passages in the bolt. It's the correct diameter but was just a little on the long side. If this seems to cause an issue I'm gonna go ahead an order a new one but I think this will be fine. Everything is tight, secure and leaak free


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Looks good from here! Will be a fun ride when things warm up. Any chance you could help me out soon with my S3 project this Christmas? Might need a hand installing new fairings and lifting the tank up to replace spark plugs. f4iHondaguy helped last time, could give him a shout also.

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Looks good from here! Will be a fun ride when things warm up. Any chance you could help me out soon with my S3 project this Christmas? Might need a hand installing new fairings and lifting the tank up to replace spark plugs. f4iHondaguy helped last time, could give him a shout also.
I'd love to help bro...If you need the front stand we'll use that too...Just let me know and let me know about your drywall guy...I want him to give me an estimate on my laundry room I need to finish


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Front line install finished...Dual Banjo bolt picked up from D&D did the trick...Pair mod finished
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Nice work Vtwin. Looks great. I did the SS brake lines a few months ago and its definitely worth it.

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Thanks Mike...I can't wait to get back on it


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Sweet job bro... ish you said sumthin... I would have stopped by to check it out.

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Nothing going on tonight...Sooooooooooo, I decided to go back to the garage and get dirty some more . . . All done with the brake upgrades and all new brake fluid, PAIR mod, fresh oil and filter and I finished up my Undertail Kit and New rear turn signals...Cleaned it up and double checked my tire PSI...Looks like somebody might just be going for a little strole tomorrow . . .
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Is there a special method to bleeding front brakes? I've done the rear a few times and never had a problem, but I just swapped out the 919 calipers (traded gold for black) and added SS brake lines and can't get any feel at the lever. We bled them for almost an hour and nothing... No more air seems to be coming out of the bleeder valves, fluid dribbles out slowly but there's no feel at all at the lever and the wheel still spins freely.
What am I overlooking?

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Is there a special method to bleeding front brakes? I've done the rear a few times and never had a problem, but I just swapped out the 919 calipers (traded gold for black) and added SS brake lines and can't get any feel at the lever. We bled them for almost an hour and nothing... No more air seems to be coming out of the bleeder valves, fluid dribbles out slowly but there's no feel at all at the lever and the wheel still spins freely.
What am I overlooking?
tightning the bleeder back up?



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I didn't have much problem with the front when I did my SS lines, but I was using a vacuum source at the bleeder screws. Are you doing it by pumping the levers? Maybe it just takes a lot more fluid to fill the calipers since you replaced them.

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tightning the bleeder back up?
Haha, I wish it was that obvious...


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I didn't have much problem with the front when I did my SS lines, but I was using a vacuum source at the bleeder screws. Are you doing it by pumping the levers? Maybe it just takes a lot more fluid to fill the calipers since you replaced them.
I do not have a vacuum source, I'm pumping the levers and cracking the bleeder open and close while holding the lever. It worked great everytime I've done the rear, but doesn't seem to be doing anything for the fronts.
How does this vacuum source work? Is it an expensive option?

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Haha, I wish it was that obvious...




I do not have a vacuum source, I'm pumping the levers and cracking the bleeder open and close while holding the lever. It worked great everytime I've done the rear, but doesn't seem to be doing anything for the fronts.
How does this vacuum source work? Is it an expensive option?
I made one, which is described in this thread

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Some other posts in there have great ideas on other vacuum sources to use.

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Tap around the banjo bolt and calipers to release any "stuck" air bubbles. You have air in the system.

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So... Any progress, did you get the air out?

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I've been out of town since Christmas; got back yesterday. I took some christmas money to Sears last night and got a Mityvac and a torque wrench, so hopefully I'll be able to give it another go later today. I'll let you know how it goes.

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The MitiVac will do the job. Good investment!

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the mitivac sucks............................................. .. (i crack me up)



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I gravity bled first then just did the basic...1 or 2 pumps and then cracked the bleeded open...Starting with the furthest caliper from the MC...No problems, all air out and had a firm lever when done


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Haha - quite literally!! There was a lot of air in the lines. The Mitivac made the job much quicker! Everything is working normally again.

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