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I get back from a weekend with the girlfriend to find out my friend had dropped my bike denting the tank. He said he would pay for the damages but I don't want him to be out a lot of money. Has anyone had a dented 919 tank and fixed it back to 100%? What are my options?


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post #2 of 52 Old 10-30-2013, 03:16 PM
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New tank or bondo and a paint job. Better off with a new tank IMO.

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The tank is double-walled - can't get to it from the back. Only fix is sand, try pulling the dent with a spot weld rig, then glaze, repaint, etc. - and you still have the inner wall dented anyway plus the possibility that the glaze/filler will crack off later or be dissolved by gasoline. That's not cheap to repair to that point anyway, so your buddy is still going to be out about $500 or more for a repair that isn't going to be all that great no matter how it's done (unless they use lead, good luck with that).

Or you could just go get a new tank for about $500. See this thread: https://www.wristtwisters.com/forums/...ead-29316.html

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Make him pony up. New tank. His fault...heck if it were me I'd have already ordered one on a credit card. Shouldn't even have to ask.

Then I'd sell the old one to recoup some of the cost at least. He might only be out a couple hundred in the end.

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Looks like a line crease is gonna make it tough to pull that one. Try your gopro suction mount and see if it comes back.

If not, there are the paint-free dent pullers.

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option two: I'd ask him to replace the tank


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Strange place for the dent?

Was it your clip-on contacting the tank?

Has your tank already been painted and filled?

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I had a similar sized dent in my 919 tank that I was able to pop/pull out with one of those glue gun dent puller kits.

My dent didn't have a crease like yours, but it's worth a try. It took many attempt to get it to pop and then a few more to get it the rest of the way. A hot tank helps the glue stick better and appear to have helped it pop. I did multiple attempts with a hair dryer, but good old sunshine ended up being the trick in my case.

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do what i did.
Why don't YOU buy his used tank?

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Has anyone had a dented 919 tank and fixed it back to 100%? What are my options?
Welcome to my hell. It's the third time i dented my tank, at the same side.
The other times were some inches ahead.

Here in Spain repairing this with filler and painting cost about 150 (~200 $US). Buying the stickers in ebay about 5$ more. I think that cannot be much more there, because all the things i see cost much less than here.




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IMO that's not a dent from a dropped bike. I had an approx 20yards slide earlier this year on the right side with frame sliders shorter than yours and my tank did not touch the ground.

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I don't think that one would work as well as one with a crossbar brace to hold the glue connection steady and threaded to increase the pressure steadily. The one I used was like this:

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Bummer, wolf.

No cheapy way about it in my estimation.

Is it time to change bike colors?

Cause that dent-fix makes it the perfect opportunity maybe.......

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Solution. Kill him. Done.

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IMO that's not a dent from a dropped bike. I had an approx 20yards slide earlier this year on the right side with frame sliders shorter than yours and my tank did not touch the ground.

It is from a dropped bike... I was there to witness it go down.

Wolf has a GSXR front end and the clip-on's caused the dent.

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... my friend had dropped my bike denting the tank
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Solution. Kill him. Done.
Are you so sure??? cuz.....

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It is from a dropped bike... I was there to witness it go down.
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Bummer, wolf.

No cheapy way about it in my estimation.

Is it time to change bike colors?

Cause that dent-fix makes it the perfect opportunity maybe.......
50 cent bandaid..... done... the dent is not going to affect use or performance of the bike and its hardly even a dent really.

As soon as the OP mans up and gets on the bike to ride it the dent will quickly be forgotten

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Sounds like you did it!

Maybe...?

Kidding. First thing he does is call me and say, "why wasn't it you that dropped my bike? I would have made you switch tanks with me."

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Cause that dent-fix makes it the perfect opportunity maybe.......
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IMO that's not a dent from a dropped bike. I had an approx 20yards slide earlier this year on the right side with frame sliders shorter than yours and my tank did not touch the ground.
I have a very similar dent, also from a buddy dropping it. Mine came from the bar end mirror.

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Forgot to add the attachments... I will probably adjust them so the bottom hopefully won't interfere with the tank in case of another drop.
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Wolf has a GSXR front end and the clip-on's caused the dent.
He should really look into modding the steering stops on the triple, or welding a tab onto the frame neck. Odds are it will happen again.

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He should really look into modding the steering stops on the triple, or welding a tab onto the frame neck. Odds are it will happen again.
It won't happen again, because no one else will ride my bike.
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It could happen to you just as easily, plus when riding street/track unpredictable things can happen.

Steering stops exist for a reason, you could damage the wiring harness, control cables, tank etc. The range of movement from left to right should really be limited by a mechanical method ..... not by jamming your hand & controls against the tank.

Plus why spend any money trying to fix the tank damage if the same thing can happen again just as easily.

Do the gsxr lower triple stops line up with the 919's frame stops? Its easy to drill and tap them to add a bit of length.

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Do the gsxr lower triple stops line up with the 919's frame stops? Its easy to drill and tap them to add a bit of length.
Yeah will do that for the future. For right now will probably be buying a new tank to swap out for the dented (Hate taking off the tank).
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Dibs on dented tank!

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Yeah will do that for the future. For right now will probably be buying a new tank to swap out for the dented (Hate taking off the tank).
We swapped a tank in under thirty minutes in a hotel parking lot once, lol. Right before a track day, just ask PVster.

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Yeah will do that for the future. For right now will probably be buying a new tank to swap out for the dented (Hate taking off the tank).
Want some cheese with that whine?

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I can't believe that there ain't any paint shop which can fix that for much less money than buying a new one

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I can't believe that there ain't any paint shop which can fix that for much less money than buying a new one
The location of the dent is why they said they can't get it back to 100%...it sucks
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Team ember all of the other things that I said were easy... This job is annoying
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We swapped a tank in under thirty minutes in a hotel parking lot once, lol. Right before a track day, just ask PVster.

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Is there a particular tip or method to not be covered in gasoline?
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For taking my crunched tank off I used a small pair of vice grips to pinch the soft fuel line at the rail. Removed the big nut on the end of the rail and drained what little gas was there. Then finished removing the tank. Popped out the fuel pump and drained the tank. I was told by Helimech to watch out when pulling the tank as the little studs break easy. I got all mine off fine. I can see how you could change one in a parking lot in 1/2 hr easy with little to know spillage. Hope this helps Wolf.

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You don't need to pinch the line if you drain the whole line first. There is only a ounces in it anyway. Shouldn't leak with the fuel pump off.

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I was told by Helimech to watch out when pulling the tank as the little studs break easy.
The studs for the fuel pump, mainly on reinstall can break so be careful.

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Just read my post and said tank not pump. But yes the studs holding in the pump. Thanks Helimech.

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Grab your gas can, remove the fuel rail on the right side, turn the key on to prime the pump and dump the fuel into the gas can. Just toggle the kill switch on and off until the tank empties.

Pull the tank, swap fuel pump and gas cap, reinstall.

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