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post #1 of 16 Old 03-26-2012, 12:15 PM Thread Starter
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ever broken a c-clip?

I'm changing the fork seals on my 82 sabre and the c-clip broke. I got hold of it with the special pliers I borrowed from the auto parts store and it just broke! Any suggestions?

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I'm changing the fork seals on my 82 sabre and the c-clip broke. I got hold of it with the special pliers I borrowed from the auto parts store and it just broke! Any suggestions?
yup! get a new one!

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yup! get a new one!
I was going to suggest the same answer but this solution seems way too simple. This issue needs some pondering. I'll post something once I'm done pondering.

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I think replacing the clip could be the best solution there is.

is it 50mm circlip that broke? Did you get OEM seals as a set (p/n 51490-KAZ-003)? If so, there should be new clips included. If you got them individually, new circlip part # is 51447-461-003

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I was going to suggest the same answer but this solution seems way too simple. This issue needs some pondering. I'll post something once I'm done pondering.
lol... it does seem a little to obvious, but.. what can ya do?! i like to "jump, to conclusions" ..get it? its a jump to conclusions mat!

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guys, i think what he's talking about is that the c-clamp broke when he was trying to remove it, therefore he CAN'T remove it now and needs to remove it.

if i'm correct, your best bet is to use 2 thin screwdrivers to try and pry it apart, or 1 thin screwdriver and 1 thin pair of needle nose pliers. should be able to get them off pretty quickly.

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guys, i think what he's talking about is that the c-clamp broke when he was trying to remove it, therefore he CAN'T remove it now and needs to remove it.

if i'm correct, your best bet is to use 2 thin screwdrivers to try and pry it apart, or 1 thin screwdriver and 1 thin pair of needle nose pliers. should be able to get them off pretty quickly.
maybe you are right. But if c-clip which holds seals is broken, he should be able to take everything apart as c-clip doesn't hold anything anymore.

VitaminD, that's the worst idea I've ever heard in my life

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VitaminD, that's the worst idea I've ever heard in my life

lolol.. that is a ted-able idea..

I havnt seen that in a long time.. i think i need to rewatch it.

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lolol.. that is a ted-able idea..

I havnt seen that in a long time.. i think i need to rewatch it.
Tom Smykowski: It was a "Jump to Conclusions" mat. You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor... and would have different CONCLUSIONS written on it that you could JUMP TO.
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guys, i think what he's talking about is that the c-clamp broke when he was trying to remove it, therefore he CAN'T remove it now and needs to remove it.

if i'm correct, your best bet is to use 2 thin screwdrivers to try and pry it apart, or 1 thin screwdriver and 1 thin pair of needle nose pliers. should be able to get them off pretty quickly.
You're absolutely correct! On one side, the clip was in three pieces and I was able to get it out with a needlenose. When I took the dust cover off the other one, I lifted out one end and quickly realized the clip pliers were going to be useless. I got the other side out of the groove and got a screwdriver behind it but that end broke off too.

Now what I've got is about 2/3 of a c-clip (enough to put pressure from side to side) and I can't get under it. I even found some dental looking prying tools but can't get under it.

I'm thinking of taking the fork to a shop and see what they can do.

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ok pem, i've had this happen to be me before. your best bet is to get 2 reasonably thin screwdrivers and try to spread the c-clip apart. dont worry about trying to remove it at that point. your goal is to try and stretch it out or even better, break it straight down the middle. takes a little bit of time and patience but you WILL prevail.

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Well now, doesn't THAT explain some things.

oh it's broken alright! why do you think my wife is so exhausted afterwards? it dont take much for her to "finish" anymore. and usually long before i do

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Here I'm using e clips to hold my pins in the ultrasonic before assembly.

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Unless I am totally missing the mark here the c clip is internal, not external, and therein lies the problem: it's nearly impossible to get 'behind" it to collapse it sufficiently for removal, and with the seal in place the stantion tube can't be removed and is at great risk of scratching or other damage while attempting to remove the clip. It will be difficult, but not impossible.

First, remove the top cap, spring, and drain the oil. Next, collapse the fork completely and mark where the seal bears against it in that position. Extend the fork and apply a couple layers of duct tape with it's lower edge just below the mark and collapse the fork until the tape pushes against the seal and secure it in that position with a couple bunjee cords. Now even if the hard chrome is scratched it will not be on a sealing surface.

Now the fun part. Measure as accurately as possible the depth of the upper surface of the circlip to the topmost surface of the slider tube. Add half of the thickness of the circlip to that measurement and mark a spot on the outside of the slider corresponding to about 1/4 of the remaining part of the clip. Now drill a 3/32" hole straight into the slider until the drill hits the clip. Stop there. All that's left to do is insert a hard piece of steel rod, a cut off shank of another 3/32" drill works nicely, and clamp the slider in a well padded vise against the aluminum on one jaw and the pin (as straight as possible) on the other. Slowly close the vise pushing against the pin and the clip will start to move away from the groove. All that's left is to place the tip of a screwdriver under the clip and gently pry upward while pushing against the clip and at a certain point it will probably fly across the garage and put a big scratch in the paint on your Ferrari. (Murphy's law of selective physics at work here) If you also own a Yugo there is not one chance in hell it will hit it!

Once the clip is out clean everything and seal up the hole with JB weld.

That should do it.

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