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post #1 of 26 Old 08-09-2011, 11:39 AM Thread Starter
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Electric chain oiler

Check this out, has anyone ever seen/heard of this system?

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Yup. There are a few other threads where people (MarylandMike) have built their own or installed other systems.

MMike, I couldn't find your thread, care to post up a URL?

NM, I found it, plus a few more. Should be some good reading for you:

https://www.wristtwisters.com/forums/...azy-21939.html

https://www.wristtwisters.com/forums/...all-27064.html


https://www.wristtwisters.com/forums/...9-a-20655.html

https://www.wristtwisters.com/forums/...ghts-4860.html


What's the benefits of this new electric system compared to others?

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I understand what they do, but why? What's so hard about spraying the chain with lube every other time you ride?

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I understand what they do, but why? What's so hard about spraying the chain with lube every other time you ride?
i dont even do that... about every 500 or so miles ill hose the chain down spray some wd 40 on it, ride it round the block, then before my next ride lube it with some chain lube and go on my mary way.

stock chain n sprockets at 14k have MINIMAL wear... and i ride hard.

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i dont even do that... about every 500 or so miles ill hose the chain down spray some wd 40 on it, ride it round the block, then before my next ride lube it with some chain lube and go on my mary way.

stock chain n sprockets at 14k have MINIMAL wear... and i ride hard.
Yeah I should of had reworded that, I only do mine every 2-3 weeks and my chain doesn't excessively wear out by any means

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I tend to get a little out of control with the lube. But seriously, after I lube my chain, there is always a nice oil spot under my bike after the first ride. I assume that the lube flings off the front sprocket then runs down and drips on the ground.

I've been considering one of these auto-oilers just so my chain has the proper amount of oil.



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I have seen a lot of good reviews on the Scott Oiler, although I think they are a little on the pricey side for a cheap bastard like myself. I agree that they aren't really necessary, but I really like using one. The big advantage to me is you can go on longer trips and not worry about carrying chain lube and figuring out a way to get your rear tire off the ground if you don't have a center stand. I have updated mine operate off of engine vacuum so I don't have to worry about forgetting to shut it off and I have the oil flow regulated so that it only uses about 1 drop every 10 minutes. Chain always looks nice and oiled.

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so you have a lil vacuum switch that only allows oil to flow when there is vacuum... genius!

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Did you use the vacuum tube off of the airbox flapper?


Could this be the beginning of a new mod combo? Air flapper / chain oiler?

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They have a vacuum opertated one too

Scottoiler | Motorbike Chain Oiler | Motorbike Chain Lube

Obviously its a little more cost effective

Here is a comparison of there systems

http://www.scottoiler.com/us/esystem/compare.html

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Did you use the vacuum tube off of the airbox flapper?


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it would actually be as simple as getting a vacuum operated vacuum switch. so that when the switch feels a vacuum the oil line is opened and allowed to flow.

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Did you use the vacuum tube off of the airbox flapper?


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I did tap into the vacuum line that goes to the flapper where the arrow points in the picture from the service manual below. I tapped in there because the check valve (just to the right of the arrow) traps vacuum in the line going to the flapper solenoid when the engine is shutoff, which would keep the oil flowing when the engine shuts down. That may also be a good place to tap into if you use the vacuum version of the Scott Oiler.


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Did you use the vacuum tube off of the airbox flapper?


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it would actually be as simple as getting a vacuum operated vacuum switch. so that when the switch feels a vacuum the oil line is opened and allowed to flow.
I skipped the middle man (vacuum switch) and used a vacuum operated valve

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I skipped the middle man (vacuum switch) and used a vacuum operated valve
thats the wording i was looking for... vacuum operated valve.... vacuum opens valve to allow oil to flow.

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@Mike. Are you still using the brush? How is that working out? Does the brush seem to collect dirt and road grime and rub it into the chain? Seems like an elegant way of avoiding positioning the drip tube in the correct place.



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They have a vacuum opertated one too

Scottoiler | Motorbike Chain Oiler | Motorbike Chain Lube

Obviously its a little more cost effective

Here is a comparison of there systems

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I think the vacuum one seems a little simpler (reliable) and it's cheaper (bonus). The only reason I would pick the electronic one is if the oil flowrate could be adjusted downward more. It looks like the recommended start point is one drop per minute. I have experimented with different drip rates and IMO one drop per minute was too much. It kept the chain nice and juicy, but made a lil bit of a mess. Since the electronic one probably operates a pump it can most likely be slowed to however low the timer will go.

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@Mike. Are you still using the brush? How is that working out? Does the brush seem to collect dirt and road grime and rub it into the chain? Seems like an elegant way of avoiding positioning the drip tube in the correct place.
I still really like the brush. It applies the oil nice and evenly. Logic would say that you should apply the oil to the inside of the chain, but even brushing it on from the outside, the oil gets on the rollers (which roll) and onto the sprocket teeth. I would try brushing it on the inside, but haven't figured a good way to mount it.

I still the wipe off the chain and brush every so often to keep everything clean.

Here is a close up pic of my chain, approx 15K miles on it and it had been 550 miles since I wiped it down.


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dang wish my chain looked that clean after 500 mi.... maybe i should stop offroading the 9er on fireroads... seems to be a common occurance, i always find myself up soem dirt road on the thing pretending its a dual sport. eh o well ride on haha.

about the only spot you could get a brush in the inside of the chain would be below the swing arm... and even that isnt the best of places as it would have to be mid chain where you get alotta chain movement.

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I tend to get a little out of control with the lube. But seriously, after I lube my chain, there is always a nice oil spot under my bike after the first ride. I assume that the lube flings off the front sprocket then runs down and drips on the ground.

I've been considering one of these auto-oilers just so my chain has the proper amount of oil.
Are you wiping the chain dry of excess lube after you apply it? If lube is dripping on the floor there's too much.

The oiler makes sense and seems like a pain-free way to go, but I've never ridden further than 450 miles at a time(so far), so I haven't had to worry about re-applying lube before I got home.

My chain maintenance is probably considered overkill / borderline obsessive to most people. I clean and lube my street bike chain at least every other week for commuting (40 miles/day), and before every long weekend ride. I clean and lube my dirt bike chains after every ride.

Clean - wipe dry
WD-40 top and bottom - wipe dry
Lube top and bottom - wipe dry


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I still really like the brush. It applies the oil nice and evenly.
Did you post a thread about this sometime ago? Link?

Scottoilers are quite popular around here and have a good rep.

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Did you post a thread about this sometime ago? Link?

Scottoilers are quite popular around here and have a good rep.
Check out the links at the top of the thread. It's the top one in the second post.

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Scott Oiler Electronic System for BMW F800R

Has anyone used or looked at this new product? I read the specs and watched a video/demo on YouTube. Looks very effective.

I learned a lot from the earlier discussion on this thread, too.

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Pretty good review here:

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Wow - thanks for posting that link to the review. Talk about detailed... MUCH appreciated!

I was thinking of this upgrade when (or if...) I take the bike off the road for the winter. I'll print this off at home and re-read in detail.

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... then before my next ride lube it with some chain lube and go on my mary way.
In our part of the English-speaking world, we go on our MERRY way... Just sayin'.

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dang wish my chain looked that clean after 500 mi.... maybe i should stop offroading the 9er on fireroads... seems to be a common occurance, i always find myself up soem dirt road on the thing pretending its a dual sport. eh o well ride on haha.

about the only spot you could get a brush in the inside of the chain would be below the swing arm... and even that isnt the best of places as it would have to be mid chain where you get alotta chain movement.
Do you really off-road that thing!? That is F-ing awesome!!

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